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3 bay slatted shed costs 2017/18

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    #212
    Bass Reeves
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    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Probably a silly question
    If you buy feed barriers / Shed / Concrete in Northern Ireland
    Can you claim back the Vat?

    Yes most will have an Irish cat no if they export a lot of product. Slats for my shed came from Creagh Conc 10 years ago

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #213
    MikeSoys
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    just wondering power washing the slatted shed shed this year took ages. i was thinking of making up some sort of sprinkler system (basically the walls always get about 1/2 encrusted hard dried in manure, pen gates too)
    i was thinking of having some hose along the top of the walls so i could turn on once a week to let water run down concrete walls and keep them a bit clearer. anyone try something like that before?..
    .i seen sprinkler parts and cheap hoses in woodies and aldi the other week


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    #214
    Bass Reeves
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    I think you will be wasting your time. To keep clean you will need a volume of water but this will fill your slatted tank. Maybe consider hiring a hit washer to clean tank wicket smell but much better to clean

    Another job with stores or weanlings that is not an issue.

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #215
    TooOldBoots
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    MikeSoys wrote: »
    just wondering power washing the slatted shed shed this year took ages. i was thinking of making up some sort of sprinkler system (basically the walls always get about 1/2 encrusted hard dried in manure, pen gates too)
    i was thinking of having some hose along the top of the walls so i could turn on once a week to let water run down concrete walls and keep them a bit clearer. anyone try something like that before?..
    .i seen sprinkler parts and cheap hoses in woodies and aldi the other week


    I don't see why you'd need to have a slatted house so clean, most lads I know just scrape out the corners or any heavy dung. Others don't bother at all.



    A better solution than the sprinklers would be to paint the walls with Baufix (lidl) plastic paint.


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    #216
    leoch
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    Wat do lads do when they power wash the shed do they spray it with something for pests or spread lime over it when it dries oit


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    #217
    MikeSoys
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    TooOldBoots wrote: »
    MikeSoys wrote: »
    just wondering power washing the slatted shed shed this year took ages. i was thinking of making up some sort of sprinkler system (basically the walls always get about 1/2 encrusted hard dried in manure, pen gates too)
    i was thinking of having some hose along the top of the walls so i could turn on once a week to let water run down concrete walls and keep them a bit clearer. anyone try something like that before?..
    .i seen sprinkler parts and cheap hoses in woodies and aldi the other week


    I don't see why you'd need to have a slatted house so clean, most lads I know just scrape out the corners or any heavy dung. Others don't bother at all.



    A better solution than the sprinklers would be to paint the walls with Baufix (lidl) plastic paint.


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    it was a very expensive shed .. ill look at the plastic paint


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    #218
    MikeSoys
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    leoch wrote: »
    Wat do lads do when they power wash the shed do they spray it with something for pests or spread lime over it when it dries oit
    i think dairy people do that.. spread the lime..


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    #219
    Buford T. Justice XIX
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    leoch wrote: »
    Wat do lads do when they power wash the shed do they spray it with something for pests or spread lime over it when it dries oit

    Usually use a good quality disinfectant with a knapsack and leave dry in and let sun do the rest.


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    #220
    MikeSoys
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    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    leoch wrote: »
    Wat do lads do when they power wash the shed do they spray it with something for pests or spread lime over it when it dries oit

    Usually use a good quality disinfectant with a knapsack and leave dry in and let sun do the rest.

    will a disinfectant have a negative effect on the slurry in the tank?


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    #221
    Buford T. Justice XIX
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    MikeSoys wrote: »
    will a disinfectant have a negative effect on the slurry in the tank?

    None. It's job will be in killing the most of what's left on the clean walls and floors. 1 liter in 20 or 30 thousand liters won't have much of an effect and most of that liter will remain on the walls anyway?

    Disinfection and sunshine, the two best things to reduce disease problems.


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    #222
    Paddydans
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    Well, shed is standing, in the process of ordering up barriers at the moment. Putting in concrete stub walls under the barriers. What are fellas views on the height the top of the stub walls should be from the top of the slats?? They vary a good bit from the sheds I've looked at. Also raising the feed passage 4 to 6 inches over slat level. What are lads thoughts on it??


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    #223
    mayota
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    Paddydans wrote: »
    Well, shed is standing, in the process of ordering up barriers at the moment. Putting in concrete stub walls under the barriers. What are fellas views on the height the top of the stub walls should be from the top of the slats?? They vary a good bit from the sheds I've looked at. Also raising the feed passage 4 to 6 inches over slat level. What are lads thoughts on it??

    I’d imagine 300mm would be enough with the 3 or 4” of the barrier above that again. If it suits having the feed higher would be a good job.
    Any pics? Who supplied the shed? I’m a bit behind you.


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    #224
    Who2
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    I sloped 18” from the tank to the stub wall at 1.5” rise. I then used a 4” screed for the feed passage and rather than put in stub walls I used a 9 by 3 then put my feed gates on top. Everything works well and I have the option of lifting the 9 by 3 if I’m stuck to use the shed for storage when it’s not in use.


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    #225
    kerb
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    mayota wrote: »
    I’d imagine 300mm would be enough with the 3 or 4” of the barrier above that again. If it suits having the feed higher would be a good job.
    Any pics? Who supplied the shed? I’m a bit behind you.

    Hi mayors, is yours a 3 bay open or closed, is it a tams shed , I'm starting mine next week, I have almost everything priced


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    #226
    mayota
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    kerb wrote: »
    Hi mayors, is yours a 3 bay open or closed, is it a tams shed , I'm starting mine next week, I have almost everything priced

    3 bay open shed. No grant.


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    #227
    Paddydans
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    Anybody use high bay led lights??


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    #228
    Hard Knocks
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    Want to get extra ventilation into shed
    Have been told to take external wall down to head height. Is that 5 or 6ft high?
    Would vented sheets be better than timber laths?


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    White Clover
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    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Want to get extra ventilation into shed
    Have been told to take external wall down to head height. Is that 5 or 6ft high?
    Would vented sheets be better than timber laths?

    Both are extremely draughty. Is raising the roof an option?


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    #230
    Paddydans
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    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Want to get extra ventilation into shed
    Have been told to take external wall down to head height. Is that 5 or 6ft high?
    Would vented sheets be better than timber laths?

    Timber boards are supposed to be healthier, going by two local vets. Or take off the sheeting you all ready have, put the wall plate timbers on the outside of poles, this will leave you with a 6 inch gap that should give better air flow


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    #231
    Hard Knocks
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    White Clover wrote: »
    Both are extremely draughty. Is raising the roof an option?

    Sadly not


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    #232
    Hard Knocks
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    Looking s little advice
    Thinking of putting a tank into a dry shed
    Which would mean there would be 2ft from barrier to slat.
    Is this anything to be concerned about?

    Also how long after pouring walls can you backfill?


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    #233
    GrasstoMilk
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    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Looking s little advice
    Thinking of putting a tank into a dry shed
    Which would mean there would be 2ft from barrier to slat.
    Is this anything to be concerned about?

    Also how long after pouring walls can you backfill?
    Not really as the stocks backend will be on the tank. We back filled a tank last year after 2 weeks, was a bit early but it was okay

    You could do a single sided shutter.
    It will use a lot more concrete but you'll get closer to the pillars.
    Were putting a 22ft wide tank here in between the pillars of a shed and a row of cubicles


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    #234
    Hard Knocks
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    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Not really as the stocks backend will be on the tank. We back filled a tank last year after 2 weeks, was a bit early but it was okay

    You could do a single sided shutter.
    It will use a lot more concrete but you'll get closer to the pillars.
    Were putting a 22ft wide tank here in between the pillars of a shed and a row of cubicles
    Thanks
    The single side shutter sounds a very good idea


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    #235
    Bullocks
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    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Not really as the stocks backend will be on the tank. We back filled a tank last year after 2 weeks, was a bit early but it was okay

    You could do a single sided shutter.
    It will use a lot more concrete but you'll get closer to the pillars.
    Were putting a 22ft wide tank here in between the pillars of a shed and a row of cubicles
    Thanks
    The single side shutter sounds a very good idea
    It will take a fair bit of extra concrete depending on how clean you can dig the sides and  you will need the shutters well braced cos they will be under more pressure than a double tied together if you know what I mean


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    #236
    GrasstoMilk
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    Bullocks wrote: »
    It will take a fair bit of extra concrete depending on how clean you can dig the sides and  you will need the shutters well braced cos they will be under more pressure than a double tied together if you know what I mean

    Yeah it's not ideal but it's the option we're going with here as back filling would be an issue. Slats could be on after 2 weeks and could start using it in no length


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    #237
    Bullocks
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    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Bullocks wrote: »
    It will take a fair bit of extra concrete depending on how clean you can dig the sides and  you will need the shutters well braced cos they will be under more pressure than a double tied together if you know what I mean

    Yeah it's not ideal but it's the option we're going with here as back filling would be an issue. Slats could be on after 2 weeks and could start using it in no length
    I gave a mate of mine a hand with one a few week ago and it turned into a disaster. He was going to back fill after the sides started falling in and forget about it but he bulled on again. That heavy rain that came washed one side and under a block wall so that the back wall (5ft high block on flat) and the girders were undermined by about 2ft. Not a safe place to be. He has the floor and the walls shuttered to 4ft high now and going with another 4ft shutter on top of that again in a week or so


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    #238
    wrangler
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    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Looking s little advice
    Thinking of putting a tank into a dry shed
    Which would mean there would be 2ft from barrier to slat.
    Is this anything to be concerned about?

    Also how long after pouring walls can you backfill?

    Is it that much more expensive to build a new shed,
    In a couple of years you'll probably need a new shed for something and be sorry you tried to convert the other shed.
    I saw a shed slip in so just asking


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    #239
    farisfat
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    Is it worth risking your life over the price of shed.


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    #240
    Someyolk
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    Anyone know What’s the minimum width for a single side feed passage to operate a diet feeder. Would 11foot be wide enough?


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    #241
    Mooooo
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    Someyolk wrote: »
    Anyone know What’s the minimum width for a single side feed passage to operate a diet feeder. Would 11foot be wide enough?

    It would do but I'd go wider if you could. If you had a bale out at one point you'd end up driving over it or dragging it along with you. 14ft would be the minimum I'd go for a single side tbh. Give some bit of space for yourself.


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