Tesla Cybertruck

Thats some cool looking truck , great to see someone pushing the boundaries .


Unbelievable cheap as well . Tesla can't be making much money on them surely.

So spent my lazy weekend reading and watching a bunch of videos on the truck.
These two were good
https://youtu.be/OX1xG0a4TVo

And
https://youtu.be/e5taegoOjSM

And after 'ordering' one Friday morning, I am more than convinced than before.

It ain't pretty. It's brutal. And that why I love it.

It's going to be big.

Can't find any width comparisons, but here it is with an F150.



Ford F-150 Raptor vs the Cotswolds: US truck on UK roads
The world’s best-selling vehicle, the Ford F-150, is is too big by far for your average British road. Undaunted, we try one for size in the Cotswolds
https://www.autocar.co.uk/ford-f150-raptor

In town, it makes even less sense than it did out in the open. You drive in near constant fear of there being a car, or maybe a small bus, hidden in one of the vast blind spots, so you actually drive with much less assertiveness than everybody around you assumes you will. But you do relax into it and soon start driving through town with a sort of impunity, because it doesn’t actually matter if you roll a couple of wheels over a kerb when pulling out of a junction, for instance.

Eventually, in fact, you realise you aren’t restricted to the narrow bit of road in front of you, like you would be in a Ford Fiesta, say, and that you could actually drive right over whatever pavement or lawn or bush happens to be in your way, plotting your own course through the city as though the roads themselves are merely advisory. Traffic jam? Not for Raptor drivers.

You could just about make a case for the Raptor here in the UK if you happened to live on a farm, or in some remote Scottish wilderness. Everywhere else? It’s just too vast, too obscene.

Yeah, that's going to go down well.

Lumen wrote: »

It's going to be big.

Can't find any width comparisons, but here it is with an F150.



Ford F-150 Raptor vs the Cotswolds: US truck on UK roads
The world’s best-selling vehicle, the Ford F-150, is is too big by far for your average British road. Undaunted, we try one for size in the Cotswolds
https://www.autocar.co.uk/ford-f150-raptor



Yeah, that's going to go down well.

Anything that size to sell in Europe would have to have 4 wheel steering etc really, similar to the Audi a8 and the like. I had heard some of the issues with towing in evs or hybrids was more to do with the regenerative braking. Cousin has a rav4 hybrid and it's only rated for 750kgs, it's not like it would be short of power.

Mooooo wrote: »

Anything that size to sell in Europe would have to have 4 wheel steering etc really, similar to the Audi a8 and the like. I had heard some of the issues with towing in evs or hybrids was more to do with the regenerative braking. Cousin has a rav4 hybrid and it's only rated for 750kgs, it's not like it would be short of power.

I can't see how regen would be an issue unless the battery management was crap. In the Model 3 Performance, the issue that prevents towing is the 20" wheels which aren't rated for the extra load. The 18" in the Model 3 LR allows 950kg to be towed.

Other than wheels, I think an issue is gross laden weight or whatever it's called, the total of car + trailer + load. Once that goes over 3.5 tonnes you need a different license, so since EVs are so heavy car manufacturer's aren't bothering to do the extra work if few drivers would be able to take advantage.

Mooooo wrote: »

Anything that size to sell in Europe would have to have 4 wheel steering etc really, similar to the Audi a8 and the like. I had heard some of the issues with towing in evs or hybrids was more to do with the regenerative braking. Cousin has a rav4 hybrid and it's only rated for 750kgs, it's not like it would be short of power.

The beefiest Cybertruck will be rated for 7 tons of towing so not sure how the RAV4 is related. The RAV4 would be very short of power after a couple of minutes when the small traction battery is depleted and it had to fully rely the Atkinson cycle 2.0. Hence the low tow rating.

The more I read about the Tesla truck the more I like it. If you're ordering get that C1 driving licence sorted out before the delivery date.

One unremarked aspect of the EV revolution is elasticity of demand, i.e. the possibility that when advanced EVs make driving cheaper and more pleasant, people will "use more EV", driving longer distances and/or using a bigger, heavier vehicle than they used when they had to pay for fossil juice.

I suspect that most of the $100 reservations are not from people who own an F150, they're from people that would have never dreamed of owning one, upscaling from a normal sized car.

This thing will have to have an absolutely enormous battery if it is to meet the claimed range number. Is a tonne or so of lithium battery progress?

For all Elon's spin about appealling to the truck owners, it's quite likely that he's manufacturing demand for these monsters.

Lumen wrote: »

It's going to be big.

Can't find any width comparisons, but here it is with an F150.



Ford F-150 Raptor vs the Cotswolds: US truck on UK roads
The world’s best-selling vehicle, the Ford F-150, is is too big by far for your average British road. Undaunted, we try one for size in the Cotswolds
https://www.autocar.co.uk/ford-f150-raptor



Yeah, that's going to go down well.

The rear headroom doesn't look brilliant at all unless they have some trick.

Hard to imagine it going down some country lane with a grass strip down the middle.

Ryath wrote: »

These American full size trucks are massive. In Ireland a Ford Ranger looks pretty big but it looks like a toy beside the F150. It's over a foot wider and one to two feet longer depending on if it's the medium or long wheelbase. As a weekend toy if you could afford it the Cybertruck would be nice but living with it day to day in a city! You won't fit in most car parks!

Yes, an F150 with mirrors unfolded is 2459mm wide. :eek:

Though for comparison, the largest Transit van is 2474mm wide including mirrors, and the length of the Cybertruck is in between the medium (L2) and long (L3) wheelbase Transit.

So I guess as long as you're happy with personal transportation the size of a big Transit van, it'll be grand.

samih wrote: »

I don't think this truck is supposed to be personal transport that Irish Yaris drivers will flock out to buy. If you need a vehicle that can carry large loads and tow boats and such this makes sense. But not many people drive a Transit as their everyday car.

99 percent of people in Europe are not the target market for this. Model 3 and Y are closer to what most people need.

OK, but this is an Irish forum so it's interesting to think about whether this would work here. The horsey boaty people I know tend to drive things like a Range Rover Discovery, the specs for which are:

Kerb-kerb turning circle: 11.8m (4m less than an F150)
Length: 4597mm (1.3m shorter than a Cybertruck).
Width including mirrors: 2173mm (286mm narrower than an F150).
Maximum towing: 1,800kg (4550kg less than Cybertruck).

So yes, if you need to tow something heavier than 1.8 tonnes, it might make sense, as long as you can cope with the enormous size when not towing.

The Cybertruck will also fit ATVs, bikes etc in the back, which a Disco won't. But it would be tricky to park at many MTB spots due to the length.

I don't think the European market for the Cybertruck overlaps with the Discovery/Range Rover market.
Those few needing to transport their quad bikes on a pickup would find a Hilux more practical on European roads.
Although if you have a Hilux, you probably don't need a quad anyway.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It would be a nightmare to drive around Cork City! There was a dodge ram parked across from my house yesterday and the size of it is ridiculous on narrow city streets. As much as I want a cybertruck, it would make little sense here.

What's the legalities of parking something like that... Its probably a good foot wider than a regular car,