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You visit Escort Ireland - have you complaints with their business model?

  • 24-11-2019 11:59PM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭


    First it's important to recognize that, escorting is currently illegal in Ireland.

    Not allowed by law.

    Currently deemed socially unacceptable.

    They'll slap you in cuffs, take you to the station - hell they might even put your name in the paper (especially if you're socially weak/isolated/vulnerable - like the pensioner whom the justice system publically named and shamed earlier this year).


    My issue with the sex work paradigm currently in effect, is not the constantly rehashed argument as to its legal status, no. That I understand.
    My real issue is, the intrinsic structure the monopolistic website promotes;

    It endorses fraudulence.

    How does it do this?

    It's revenue is based on the purchase of webspace via sex workers.
    Each profile takes X amount of revenue.

    To increase its profit margin, it encourages workers to take out more than one profile.
    Whether that were to advertise two different services, such as an escort service, in tandem with a massage service.
    Or simply to promote multiple profiles using a series of plagiarized images of.... instagram models, pornographic actresses, their friends?
    Whomever.

    It endorses, encourages, and facilitates this fraudulence, deceptively using a "verified photo" system as a means to fabricate an image of integrity (this system is of course bogus and ineffective, nor is it enforced. It's basically like a scam on top of the scam).


    Now - I get it - society at large, in particular housewives, they don't like prostitution.

    It's like saying, "nobody like promiscuous women" or, "nobody likes a slut".
    When we all know the reality is - most of us like one from time to time.

    My point is - fraudulence and deceptive practice would be scandalized and exposed in any other large scale business model.

    My understanding is, this website has an annual turnover - in the millions.

    MILLIONS.

    Hundreds of thousands of euro (that's 6 figures) - every single week.

    Irish revenue does not benefit from it's existence but, that's their own fault as the justice system (or more specifically, the personalities in the justice system) refuse to accept it is as a form of legitimate business.

    Further to the justice systems position relative to the practice of sex-for-money, the monopolistic promoters willingness to engage in fraudulence - I mean, obviously is in and of itself effectively the definition of criminality and a scam - but additionally it facilitates pimping, gang operation, coercion - as it obstructs the practice of genuine independent workers and, in some cases, can be used as a means of extortion against vulnerable clientele.


    TD Catherine Byrne (minister of health promotion), in addition to TD Charlie Flanagan (minister for justice), in addition to TD Simon Harris (minister for health) - their tag-line is,

    "We are a promoting a safer, healthier, more inclusive environment for all".

    If there was a restaurant chain, or a drug store, or any lucrative outlet, that was undercutting its customers and squeezing their suppliers in the name of higher profit margins - would that be okay?

    So, in a business that eclipses the vast majority of medium to large sized Irish companies in terms of annual financial turnover - can someone help me understand - why is that okay?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,132 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    Now - I get it - society at large, in particular housewives, they don't like prostitution.

    It's like saying, "nobody like promiscuous women" or, "nobody likes a slut".

    It's more like, nobody likes solo women being put in a position to be robbed and/or beaten/raped.


    And on tax, is there tax on gambling here?


    https://m.herald.ie/news/gang-are-arrested-after-7-sex-workers-beaten-and-robbed-38712138.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭Andreas77


    Very special post. I'll be in touch through PM.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Always Tired


    Well, pimpin aint easy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,862 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Well, pimpin aint easy

    Just remember, pimps don't cry muthafvcka.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    It's a .com it's hosted outside the country, so Irish law has no jurisdiction over it.

    Edit: probably in a foreign tax jurisdiction too. They don't seem to be doing anything illegal. Running a classified ads section.

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭Andreas77


    Are these deals for real? I'm interested OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    Are you annoyed that you can't get an escort, or are you annoyed about something else?

    If your willy is sad I can recommend a cream for that.

    Or a website.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭wiggle16


    Irish revenue does not benefit from it's existence but, that's their own fault as the justice system (or more specifically, the personalities in the justice system) refuse to accept it is as a form of legitimate business.

    The proceeds of crime are taxable under Schedule D, Case IV as per s18 of the Taxes Consolidation Act 1997. Revenue does not care whether business is legitimate or not.

    I'M LOADS OF FUN AREN'T I


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭bo0li5eumx12kp


    20Wheel wrote: »
    It's a .com it's hosted outside the country, so Irish law has no jurisdiction over it.


    Spare me these bureaucratic incompetencies.

    If there was a concise decision to address the issue - the issue would be addressed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭bo0li5eumx12kp


    wiggle16 wrote: »
    The proceeds of crime are taxable under Schedule D, Case IV as per s18 of the Taxes Consolidation Act 1997. Revenue does not care whether business is legitimate or not.

    I'M LOADS OF FUN AREN'T I

    Well - no tax is coming into the Irish revenue by way of escorting at the moment.

    So - how does that work?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    Spare me these bureaucratic incompetencies.

    If there was a concise decision to address the issue - the issue would be addressed.

    Well no. You don't get to decide what another country can host.

    Pick up the phone to Mr.escorts ireland, tell him what you want him and his website to do.

    Be prepared to hear steel drums playing in the background as ju are tol to go fuk juself mang.

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭bo0li5eumx12kp


    Andreas77 wrote: »
    Are these deals for real? I'm interested OP

    Deals?

    As in, does the website encourages multiple profiles per individual so the escort pays more and the website operators have a higher take?

    ....

    You're asking me whether that's real?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Would they have 1978 Mk 2 on that website?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,081 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Your Face wrote: »
    Would they have 1978 Mk 2 on that website?

    Yes.
    High mileage up on her though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭bo0li5eumx12kp


    20Wheel wrote: »
    Well no. You don't get to decide what another country can host.

    Pick up the phone to Mr.escorts ireland, tell him what you want him and his website to do.

    Be prepared to hear steel drums playing in the background as ju are tol to go fuk juself mang.

    According to whom?

    If ministers puts wheels in motion to recognize and regulate a practice in Ireland, for which transactions occur from Irish branches via money from business exchange in Ireland?

    Your contention is tax compliance is not enforceable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    squeezing their suppliers in the name of higher profit margins - would that be okay?

    [/I]okay?

    That is surely extra.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,145 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Odd post.

    More interested in tax compliance than people compliance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭Andreas77


    Deals?


    Are they real women? Or only stooges for entrappment?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 21,353 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Ah, LaptopGremlin, the poster obsessed with women and prostitution.


    Did your mother not love you enough?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭wiggle16


    Andreas77 wrote: »
    Are they real women? Or only stooges for entrappment?

    No they are completely real. Uncontrollably, incontinently real.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭bo0li5eumx12kp


    20Wheel wrote: »
    It's a .com it's hosted outside the country, so Irish law has no jurisdiction over it.

    Edit: probably in a foreign tax jurisdiction too. They don't seem to be doing anything illegal. Running a classified ads section.

    Fraud is illegal mate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,145 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Fraud is illegal mate

    So is prostitution mate.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭bo0li5eumx12kp


    anewme wrote: »
    So is prostitution mate.

    So what are you saying - two wrongs make a right?

    They can't ensure moral working practices cause the practice itself is outside the scope of the law?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,940 ✭✭✭Feisar


    The bi-monthly whore thread.

    Look if a woman has options and still chooses whoring best of luck to her however 9 times out of ten she doesn’t.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭bo0li5eumx12kp


    Feisar wrote: »
    The bi-monthly whore thread.

    Look if a woman has options and still chooses whoring best of luck to her however 9 times out of ten she doesn’t.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    any Black Friday deals going?

    asking for a friend in crossmolina


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    Isn't escortireland a bit late 90s/early 2000s?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭wiggle16


    So what are you saying - two wrongs make a right?

    They can't ensure moral working practices cause the practice itself is outside the scope of the law?

    Why would they?

    You log onto their website because you want to get screwed.

    You can't complain when that's exactly what happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    Fraud is illegal mate

    Im not sure that you're for real, your name looks familiar.

    Anyway if you legit are having trouble with understanding this, then all I can say is that the site in question is none of the Irish legal systems business.

    We don't have jurisdiction over sites just cause the word ireland appears in the name.

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    I'll just have a lucazade and an old fashioned ride please oh and 2 packets of cheese and onion cheers


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