Jeremy Corbyn- Britain under his leadership

Blanco100 · 22-11-2019 10:21PM #1

Nicola Sturgeon tonight has claimed he is willing to sacrifice the union in a bid to secure the support of the SNP to prop up his Labour government.

But the price will be he gets to deliver his radical manifesto.

Can anyone tell me what is so radical about Corbyn's manifesto. What would Britain look like under his leadership?

Genuinely curious to know peoples thoughts. Apologies for not giving my own thoughts, I don't know enough, hence i'm looking for opinions of your good selves

Thanks a million in advance

Beasty · 22-11-2019 10:42PM

Up to 10% of shares to employees, limiting dividends, significant privatisations, all of which will destroy shareholder, and in turn pensioner, value at a time when the country is heading into a pensions timebomb

City will retreat to other places, unemployment will probably rise, the amount he's proposing to borrow will push up the cost of borrowing for everyone, risking a return to inflation. He thinks he can borrow until his heart's content, but debt has to be repaid, and his plans will likely see borrowing increase further in future years

markodaly · 22-11-2019 11:47PM

He plans to renationalise the following industries:

Broadband
Energy
Mail
Water
Rail
Bus

The majority of this would fall foul of EU State aid rules and competition law. Make no mistake about it, Corbyn is a leaver at heart.

Blanco100 · 22-11-2019 11:54PM

markodaly wrote: »

He plans to renationalise the following industries:

Broadband
Energy
Mail
Water
Rail
Bus

The majority of this would fall foul of EU State aid rules and competition law. Make no mistake about it, Corbyn is a leaver at heart.

What about Northern Ireland? We all know his history and rep as an paramilitary sympathizer, but what happens to Northern Ireland under Corbyns hand?

nuac · 22-11-2019 11:59PM

I think he will let NI go.
The recent performance of the DUP may make that a popular decision outside hardline unionists

Blanco100 · 23-11-2019 12:01AM

nuac wrote: »

I think he will let NI go.
The recent performance of the DUP may make that a popular decision outside hardline unionists

How would he dress up "letting NI go" though?

How would it come about?

markodaly · 23-11-2019 12:05AM

Blanco100 wrote: »

What about Northern Ireland? We all know his history and rep as an paramilitary sympathizer, but what happens to Northern Ireland under Corbyns hand?

It is out of his hands. The future of the north lies with the people of the north (and south to a degree). Whoever is in No.10 Downing street wont change that.

23-11-2019 12:08AM

Surely there is only a certain amount any government can successfully take on?

Realistically all these industries would be a massive job to nationalise all at once?
Broadband
Energy
Mail
Water
Rail
Bus

Campaign in poetry, govern in prose & all that.

But oh yes he's a leaver alright.

Richard Hillman · 23-11-2019 12:08AM

Everything nationalised
Wages rise exponentially
Massive currency inflation
Importers struggle with poor exchange rates
Food shortages
People unhappy
Nobody willing to export to the UK due to poor credit rating
More inflation
Massive protests
Protestors portrayed as fascist sabateurs
Violent crackdowns
More protests
Nationalised Internet is shut down to stop protests.
Foreign country (Russia or the US) blamed for all woes
More protests.
Police and Armed forces turn on leadership.
Leadership arrested on corruption

The usual.

tuxy · 23-11-2019 12:08AM

Blanco100 wrote: »

How would he dress up "letting NI go" though?

How would it come about?

It can only come about as a border poll unless he wants to break the Good Friday Agreement

Charlie19 · 23-11-2019 12:10AM

Not sure why but I kind of like him.

That's all I've got.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-11-2019 12:16AM

Well lets face it he would be better than Boris.

Assetbacked · 23-11-2019 12:35AM

Better than the elitist, racist Tories. Simple as that.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 23-11-2019 12:38AM

I'm a "looney lefty" Corbyn scares the fcuk out of me!

23-11-2019 12:43AM

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

I'm a "looney lefty" Corbyn scares the fcuk out of me!

Is that the substance of your argument? I'm not bowled over by the man, but labels like "looney lefty" are a disservice to constructive debate.

Tom Mann Centuria · 23-11-2019 12:46AM

I'd vote for him.

JPA · 23-11-2019 12:50AM

Whatever you think of his policies, he shouldn't be a party leader.

tuxy · 23-11-2019 12:52AM

If he was a competent leader that wasn't so polarizing labour would be ahead not behind after the way the tories have acted the last few years.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 23-11-2019 12:54AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is that the substance of your argument? I'm not bowled over by the man, but labels like "looney lefty" are a disservice to constructive debate.

Tongue in cheek, in regards the left in any debate are considered lunatics. I lean left with my politics and Corbyns policies I can't buy into them. He's gone to far left.

end of the road · 23-11-2019 01:06AM

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

Surely there is only a certain amount any government can successfully take on?

Realistically all these industries would be a massive job to nationalise all at once?
Broadband
Energy
Mail
Water
Rail
Bus

Campaign in poetry, govern in prose & all that.

But oh yes he's a leaver alright.

rail is part nationalised as it is, the infrastructure manager is a state owned organisation.
the only real issues would be the rolling stock which would have to be bought out all though a bit of it is scrap value anyway at this stage.
current operating contracts might have to be bought out all though they could just be left run.
for bus he seems to want to give councils control of them rather then actual nationalisation, as in he wants to do away with de-regulation, which to be fair hasn't had the greatest of success.
not sure how he will do the others but presumably it will just be the infrastructure with a state operator for each along with any private operators.
there will still be private companies providing services as they can't be stopped from using infrastructure and i'm not sure corbyn actually wants to get rid of them, rather stop the state wholey relying on them for providing critical services which in a way may not be a bad thing incase something happens that requires some sort of fallback option.
i don't think he will win the election anyway, i think it will either be a hung parliament or boris will get in unfortunately.

Berserker5 · 23-11-2019 01:07AM

He's not messing about with this

Better Than Christ · 23-11-2019 01:14AM

tuxy wrote: »

If he was a competent leader that wasn't so polarizing labour would be ahead not behind after the way the tories have acted the last few years.

If he wasn't a competent leader, he wouldn't have survived so many attempts to get rid of him. Given the attacks and smears that have been thrown at him since 2015, it's unbelievable that he's lasted so long. The longest-serving and most electorally-successful Labour leader since Tony Blair.

With the benefit of hindsight, maybe he should have stepped aside after the 2017 election. He could have left on such a high and would have had enough clout with ordinary members to effectively choose his own successor... someone younger, also left-of-centre, but harder to smear. The last couple of years have been particularly relentless. It doesn't matter that there's not an ounce of truth in the accusations that he's an anti-semite or a terrorist sympathiser - when you throw that much mud at someone, some of it is bound to stick.

MoashoaM · 23-11-2019 01:16AM

Could he be any worse than the mop-top?

ILoveYourVibes · 23-11-2019 01:17AM

Charlie19 wrote: »

Not sure why but I kind of like him.

That's all I've got.

I dont like him ..but he's still better than boris and the tories.

Berserker5 · 23-11-2019 01:18AM

Thatcher will be turning in her grave

AllForIt · 23-11-2019 01:20AM

I don't know if anyone has noticed but Coybyn is always very measured when on the box. This is all an act. He's extremely careful about what he says (i.e. not to sound like a raging socialist) which is why he speaks in that slow deliberate faux calm manner, pausing for that slight second before he opens his mouth.

Tonight's performance by him IMO was contrived to have him come across as 'nice' a guy as possible with his 'nice' policies to help the poor etc....but underneath it all he's intent on 70's style socialist policies which is the last thing Britain needs when they finally Brexit, or anytime for that matter.

Tom Mann Centuria · 23-11-2019 01:25AM

Lololololol.

Notdeco · 23-11-2019 01:26AM

Berserker5 wrote: »

Thatcher will be turning in her grave

Good! She was a devil. Tbh, this election is being portrayed in the same way as trump vs Clinton.yet another mess up, no matter who wins.

Better Than Christ · 23-11-2019 01:26AM

AllForIt wrote: »

I don't know if anyone has noticed but Coybyn is always very measured when on the box. This is all an act. He's extremely careful about what he says (i.e. not to sound like a raging socialist) which is why he speaks in that slow deliberate faux calm manner, pausing for that slight second before he opens his mouth.

Tonight's performance by him IMO was contrived to have him come across as 'nice' a guy as possible with his 'nice' policies to help the poor etc....but underneath it all he's intent on 70's style socialist policies which is the last thing Britain needs when they finally Brexit, or anytime for that matter.

That's just how he's always spoken. The man's hobbies include making jam, tending to his allotment, taking photos of manhole covers and train-spotting. There is no act. It's possible to be quietly spoken and also have strong opinions - opinions which he has never hidden.

Tom Mann Centuria · 23-11-2019 01:28AM

Better Than Christ wrote: »

That's just how he's always spoken. The man's hobbies include making jam, tending to his allotment, taking photos of manhole covers and train-spotting. There is no act. It's possible to be quietly spoken and also have strong opinions - opinions which he has never hidden.

Correct. He's sneakily hiding all his socialist plans by putting out a manifesto, outlining his socialist plans, the cunning socialist.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-11-2019 01:29AM

Berserker5 wrote: »

Thatcher will be turning in her grave

I would say she would be laughing.

Obama would make Thatcher spin...

Jeremy Corbyn- Britain under his leadership

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