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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭lcstress2012


    I currently have a 171D Ford Fiesta Titanium paying €300 per month with a GMFV of €7400. Went to ford dealer today about January car and getting Fiesta ST Line for €290 per month! Good deal if you ask me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,623 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    That depends on the entire cost of the new car rather than just the headline monthly repayments. How much equity do you have in the 171 Fiesta, did you have to put a cash contribution up front, what is the interest rate and what is the GMFV on the new car?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,077 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    bazz26 wrote: »
    That depends on the entire cost of the new car rather than just the headline monthly repayments. How much equity do you have in the 171 Fiesta, did you have to put a cash contribution up front, what is the interest rate and what is the GMFV on the new car?

    Most importantly it's a D... not one of those country letters..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,429 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Hard to know as there's no pricing for the Fiesta on Ford's website. What's the price of the car? How much was offered for your car/how much equity did you get?


  • Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Most importantly it's a D... not one of those country letters..

    Think I'd rather a country reg diesel that's been driven than a town/city car that hardly warms up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Most importantly it's a D... not one of those country letters..

    That’s the most Dublin thing I’ve ever heard anyway say. Considering half the “D” stuff is ex rental, you might get more than you bargained for, lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭johnire


    I’ve a PCP loan on my car which I’m planning to change in January.
    If things work out I’m expecting a lump sum of money possibly as early as February. In an ideal situation I’d like just to continue on the PCP arrangement until I get that money and then clear in full the balance outstanding. Is it that simple though? Is it possible to clear a PCP early(and by early I’m talking about maybe a month into a 3 year plan!) and even if it is are there penalties for doing so?
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    johnire wrote: »
    I’ve a PCP loan on my car which I’m planning to change in January.
    If things work out I’m expecting a lump sum of money possibly as early as February. In an ideal situation I’d like just to continue on the PCP arrangement until I get that money and then clear in full the balance outstanding. Is it that simple though? Is it possible to clear a PCP early(and by early I’m talking about maybe a month into a 3 year plan!) and even if it is are there penalties for doing so?
    Thanks

    Which bank?

    There are fees for clearing, if there’s interest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭johnire


    It’s Bank of Ireland.
    Which bank?

    There are fees for clearing, if there’s interest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    johnire wrote: »
    It’s Bank of Ireland.

    Probably get screwed so. Depends on when you pick up your new car but you’ll end up paying completion fees on the current, starting fees on the new and the completion fees on the new plus a few months interest (which will be a lot, could end up paying back a good bit more than you borrowed)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,077 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    johnire wrote: »
    I’ve a PCP loan on my car which I’m planning to change in January.
    If things work out I’m expecting a lump sum of money possibly as early as February. In an ideal situation I’d like just to continue on the PCP arrangement until I get that money and then clear in full the balance outstanding. Is it that simple though? Is it possible to clear a PCP early(and by early I’m talking about maybe a month into a 3 year plan!) and even if it is are there penalties for doing so?
    Thanks

    When you get the big haul ring them and ask for a settlement figure, if it's too high just stick with the PCP payments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,077 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Think I'd rather a country reg diesel that's been driven than a town/city car that hardly warms up.

    Jesus, it was a joke...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,077 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    That’s the most Dublin thing I’ve ever heard anyway say. Considering half the “D” stuff is ex rental, you might get more than you bargained for, lol.

    It was a joke... You know, something unheard of in boards so it seems..


  • Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Jesus, it was a joke...

    Next time add a :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    Thinking of changing the wife's car in 2020, she bought a new Seat Ibiza FR in Mar '18.
    It's two years old in March and the dealer called last week asking if we were interested in trading up for 2020. The car has been faultless, my wife has a commute of 100kms a day and it's averaged over 50mpg from the little 1.0 TSi, it's only the 95hp version.

    We would like a little more space as we travel up to the in laws quite a bit and have a dog so we were looking at the Leon ST as a replacement in FR trim. There is a 130bhp 1.5 TSi available starting at a bit over €28k, with a few boxes ticked like metallic, winter pack and parking sensors it's a smidgen over €29k.

    The numbers we've gotten are:
    Settlement figure as of Saturday €11,862 should be under €11k come next February
    Trade in value €16k ~ €5k equity
    Deposit €1k
    Repayments going from 253 to 357 a month.
    0% finance, currently on 1.9%.

    This seems manageable and a good deal to me as we are getting back the full amount we financed and going onto 0%. Also there's 53kms on the car now so will be just approaching the 60k limit come time to trade. If we wait until the end of the PCP term in 2021 there will be 80-90k on it so not sure what kind of trade in we would get then.

    I know there is a new Leon coming in winter 2020 but I reckon this will be a nice step up price wise, the FR spec is good and it's a decent looking car.

    Opinions on the numbers, do they look fair? Also has anyone driven the Leon with this engine, what did you think? We are yet to drive one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,939 ✭✭✭GavMan


    hooch-85 wrote: »
    Thinking of changing the wife's car in 2020, she bought a new Seat Ibiza FR in Mar '18.
    It's two years old in March and the dealer called last week asking if we were interested in trading up for 2020. The car has been faultless, my wife has a commute of 100kms a day and it's averaged over 50mpg from the little 1.0 TSi, it's only the 95hp version.

    We would like a little more space as we travel up to the in laws quite a but and have a dog so we were looking at the Leon ST as a replacement in FR trim. There is a 130bhp 1.5 TSi available starting at a bit over €28k, with a few boxes ticked like metallic, winter pack and parking sensors it's a smidgen over €29k.

    The numbers we've gotten are:
    Settlement figure as of Saturday €11,862 should be under €11k come next February
    Trade in value €16k ~ €5k equity
    Deposit €1k
    Repayments going from 253 to 357 a month.
    0% finance, currently on 1.9%.

    This seems manageable and a good deal to me as we are getting back the full amount we financed and going onto 0%. Also there's 53kms on the car now so will be just approaching the 60k limit come time to trade. If we wait until the end of the PCP term in 2021 there will be 80-90k on it so not sure what kind of trade in we would get then.

    I know there is a new Leon coming in winter 2020 but I reckon this will be a nice step up price wise, the FR spec is good and it's a decent looking car.

    Opinions on the numbers, do they look fair? Also has anyone driven the Leon with this engine, what did you think? We are yet to drive one.

    Take the quote to other dealers and see can they beat it. Simple as that. Only way to know if its good or not. Shop a couple of other brands you like too in that price range.

    Then decide


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,077 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    hooch-85 wrote: »
    Thinking of changing the wife's car in 2020, she bought a new Seat Ibiza FR in Mar '18.
    It's two years old in March and the dealer called last week asking if we were interested in trading up for 2020. The car has been faultless, my wife has a commute of 100kms a day and it's averaged over 50mpg from the little 1.0 TSi, it's only the 95hp version.

    We would like a little more space as we travel up to the in laws quite a but and have a dog so we were looking at the Leon ST as a replacement in FR trim. There is a 130bhp 1.5 TSi available starting at a bit over €28k, with a few boxes ticked like metallic, winter pack and parking sensors it's a smidgen over €29k.

    The numbers we've gotten are:
    Settlement figure as of Saturday €11,862 should be under €11k come next February
    Trade in value €16k ~ €5k equity
    Deposit €1k
    Repayments going from 253 to 357 a month.
    0% finance, currently on 1.9%.

    This seems manageable and a good deal to me as we are getting back the full amount we financed and going onto 0%. Also there's 53kms on the car now so will be just approaching the 60k limit come time to trade. If we wait until the end of the PCP term in 2021 there will be 80-90k on it so not sure what kind of trade in we would get then.

    I know there is a new Leon coming in winter 2020 but I reckon this will be a nice step up price wise, the FR spec is good and it's a decent looking car.

    Opinions on the numbers, do they look fair? Also has anyone driven the Leon with this engine, what did you think? We are yet to drive one.

    That looks ok, is the 1.5 manual or DSG? The manual version had kangaroo problems which they've been trying to sort with various software patches, some say it fixed it and others still have the issue. The DSG is faultless and supposed to be a beautiful drive with the mid to high 40's being the average consumption. I'd definitely shop around as the difference between dealers can be significant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,077 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Next time add a :D

    Can't on my phone..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    That looks ok, is the 1.5 manual or DSG? The manual version had kangaroo problems which they've been trying to sort with various software patches, some say it fixed it and others still have the issue. The DSG is faultless and supposed to be a beautiful drive with the mid to high 40's being the average consumption. I'd definitely shop around as the difference between dealers can be significant.

    It's the 1.5 manual 130ps. What do you mean by kangaroo problems?
    The DSG is 150 ps and about €2k more, that's what i'd really like to go for but i think it could be stretching things a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    You’ll get a 1.5 TSI (currently on offer) Golf Highline with leather interior for 31k and 0 percent PCP with a 1500 deposit contribution.

    That’s where my money would be


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    L-M wrote: »
    You’ll get a 1.5 TSI (currently on offer) Golf Highline with leather interior for 31k and 0 percent PCP with a 1500 deposit contribution.

    That’s where my money would be

    She wants the estate though as it will be our 'family' car and the Golf estates just don't look right to me. Plus I have a MK7 GTD, so we don't necessarily need two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,077 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    hooch-85 wrote: »
    It's the 1.5 manual 130ps. What do you mean by kangaroo problems?
    The DSG is 150 ps and about €2k more, that's what i'd really like to go for but i think it could be stretching things a bit.
    It's like you're a leaner again, very difficult to get the clutch to bite and pull away smoothly without either a) revving the nuts out of it (sounding like a granny outside mass) or b) stalling (like granny outside mass..)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,885 ✭✭✭Casati


    hooch-85 wrote: »
    Thinking of changing the wife's car in 2020, she bought a new Seat Ibiza FR in Mar '18.
    It's two years old in March and the dealer called last week asking if we were interested in trading up for 2020. The car has been faultless, my wife has a commute of 100kms a day and it's averaged over 50mpg from the little 1.0 TSi, it's only the 95hp version.

    We would like a little more space as we travel up to the in laws quite a bit and have a dog so we were looking at the Leon ST as a replacement in FR trim. There is a 130bhp 1.5 TSi available starting at a bit over €28k, with a few boxes ticked like metallic, winter pack and parking sensors it's a smidgen over €29k.

    The numbers we've gotten are:
    Settlement figure as of Saturday €11,862 should be under €11k come next February
    Trade in value €16k ~ €5k equity
    Deposit €1k
    Repayments going from 253 to 357 a month.
    0% finance, currently on 1.9%.

    This seems manageable and a good deal to me as we are getting back the full amount we financed and going onto 0%. Also there's 53kms on the car now so will be just approaching the 60k limit come time to trade. If we wait until the end of the PCP term in 2021 there will be 80-90k on it so not sure what kind of trade in we would get then.

    I know there is a new Leon coming in winter 2020 but I reckon this will be a nice step up price wise, the FR spec is good and it's a decent looking car.

    Opinions on the numbers, do they look fair? Also has anyone driven the Leon with this engine, what did you think? We are yet to drive one.

    Some super deals on pre reg 130 FR Leon’s - saw one at 20k in a dealer In Limerick. It was a hatch mind you. The full 29k does have a discount built in that they are using to up the equity in your own but be aware that resale in Leon’s for the first three years is generally v weak compared to its first cousins the Golf and Octavia. After three years they actually hold their value v well.

    We’ve a 1.6 TDI and it’s a great car, aside from eating through remote batteries every year at least we’ve had no issues. The FR is nicely spec’d too and the estate has a massive a massive boot - we regret not getting one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭jimbobmalones


    hooch-85 wrote: »
    Thinking of changing the wife's car in 2020, she bought a new Seat Ibiza FR in Mar '18.
    It's two years old in March and the dealer called last week asking if we were interested in trading up for 2020. The car has been faultless, my wife has a commute of 100kms a day and it's averaged over 50mpg from the little 1.0 TSi, it's only the 95hp version.

    We would like a little more space as we travel up to the in laws quite a bit and have a dog so we were looking at the Leon ST as a replacement in FR trim. There is a 130bhp 1.5 TSi available starting at a bit over €28k, with a few boxes ticked like metallic, winter pack and parking sensors it's a smidgen over €29k.

    The numbers we've gotten are:
    Settlement figure as of Saturday €11,862 should be under €11k come next February
    Trade in value €16k ~ €5k equity
    Deposit €1k
    Repayments going from 253 to 357 a month.
    0% finance, currently on 1.9%.

    This seems manageable and a good deal to me as we are getting back the full amount we financed and going onto 0%. Also there's 53kms on the car now so will be just approaching the 60k limit come time to trade. If we wait until the end of the PCP term in 2021 there will be 80-90k on it so not sure what kind of trade in we would get then.

    I know there is a new Leon coming in winter 2020 but I reckon this will be a nice step up price wise, the FR spec is good and it's a decent looking car.

    Opinions on the numbers, do they look fair? Also has anyone driven the Leon with this engine, what did you think? We are yet to drive one.


    Hi OP

    I've a 1.6tdi Seat Leon - in general its a great car but a couple of words of warning

    I just got a trade in quote of 9000 (mine has higher than average mileage) for a 161! I know you are thinking of going for TSi but unless you are planning on keeping for the long haul the depreciation on these cars is horrific. There's no way I can afford to use mine as a trade in given the super low trade in quote.

    The skoda octavias have much better resale value so thats where I'd be putting my money if buying new.

    The other thing to consider is that all of these models (leon octavia golf) are now being replaced within the next couple of months so you should be looking for a massive discount if buying new.

    cheers

    J


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    I think the plan would be to keep it long term, I am aware the depreciation can be steep on the Leon's, it doesn't seem to be the case with the Ibiza, but they are a cheaper car to start with. We must price the Octavia too and see what kind of deal they would offer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,429 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I can't say enough good things about the DSG, it makes my Golf a dream to drive, it's so smooth and revs are kept low so very quiet driving experience.

    You definitely have to test drive one. Worth every cent, especially if you're planning on keeping it long term.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    It's like you're a leaner again, very difficult to get the clutch to bite and pull away smoothly without either a) revving the nuts out of it (sounding like a granny outside mass) or b) stalling (like granny outside mass..)

    Is your one like that?

    I’ve driven numerous 1.5s and never experienced that


  • Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Can't on my phone..

    Any phone can add a :-) ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,077 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    L-M wrote: »
    Is your one like that?

    I’ve driven numerous 1.5s and never experienced that

    Boards... Where an argument is never far away..


    It's well documented I'm just advising to test drive one first.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,077 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Any phone can add a :-) ;-)

    If you're 14, on bebo...


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