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What to do with 100k business account funds

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  • 06-11-2019 4:40pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭


    Total profit this year will be about 100k. Kept there as rainy day money. Single director Ltd company with no debts. It's just myself. Total revenue was 185k of which I draw down an 85k salary. What could I do with the rest to make the most of it? Anyone know how much of a pension I can contribute?

    Edit: if anyone has recommendations on where to go with this question, that would be appreciated too.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,961 ✭✭✭BailMeOut


    you need to talk to your accountant as they will know exactly what to do. I would assume you will pay 12.5% corp tax on that 100k so you need to look at ways to reduce this profit and this is what your tax accountant is paid to do so setup a meeting asap. Is this 2018 or 2019 as PRSA contribution deadline was 31st Oct.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭CPTM


    BailMeOut wrote: »
    you need to talk to your accountant as they will know exactly what to do. I would assume you will pay 12.5% corp tax on that 100k so you need to look at ways to reduce this profit and this is what your tax accountant is paid to do so setup a meeting asap. Is this 2018 or 2019 as PRSA contribution deadline was 31st Oct.

    This is 2019 accounts - I was stung with corporation tax for 2018 which is why I'm asking. My accountant didn't advise me on that. Is there a difference between tax accountant and my normal accountant who does the books? My accountant doesn't seem to want to actively advise me on anything. He knows everything when I go to confirm it, but doesn't proactively tell me which is a little disappointing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,961 ✭✭✭BailMeOut


    CPTM wrote: »
    This is 2019 accounts - I was stung with corporation tax for 2018 which is why I'm asking. My accountant didn't advise me on that. Is there a difference between tax accountant and my normal accountant who does the books? My accountant doesn't seem to want to actively advise me on anything. He knows everything when I go to confirm it, but doesn't proactively tell me which is a little disappointing.

    step 1, get a new accountanting firm that has experts in other areas so you can get good advice from a one stop shop.

    Do you have any kids aged 16 or older you can employ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭CPTM


    BailMeOut wrote: »
    step 1, get a new accountanting firm that has experts in other areas so you can get good advice from a one stop shop.

    Do you have any kids aged 16 or older you can employ?

    Thanks for the response.. Yes I think I'll do that(finding a new accountancy firm).

    No kids yet (one on the way!).. Any idea how much I can move into a pension fund?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,961 ✭✭✭BailMeOut


    CPTM wrote: »
    Thanks for the response.. Yes I think I'll do that(finding a new accountancy firm).

    No kids yet (one on the way!).. Any idea how much I can move into a pension fund?


    Congratulations!

    Anywhere between 15 and 40% depending on age. Do you have a PRSA setup?

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/jobs-and-pensions/pensions/tax-relief-for-pension-contributions.aspx


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭CPTM


    BailMeOut wrote: »
    Congratulations!

    Anywhere between 15 and 40% depending on age. Do you have a PRSA setup?

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/jobs-and-pensions/pensions/tax-relief-for-pension-contributions.aspx

    I don't have PRSA setup.. But I will certainly speak to an accountant about that. I'm in the 30-39 year age bracket.. So am I correct in thinking that I can put aside 185k * 20% = 37k into a pension fund tax free?

    Thanks so much for helping me get started on this. I really do appreciate it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 346 ✭✭thegolfer


    BailMeOut wrote: »
    Congratulations!

    Anywhere between 15 and 40% depending on age. Do you have a PRSA setup?

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/jobs-and-pensions/pensions/tax-relief-for-pension-contributions.aspx

    This in in a personal capacity only.

    Contributions from a company are based on the salary of the director, and can operate on higher multiples and percentages.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭adam88


    BailMeOut wrote: »
    step 1, get a new accountanting firm that has experts in other areas so you can get good advice from a one stop shop.

    Do you have any kids aged 16 or older you can employ?

    What’s the deal with having kids as employees. Just curious !


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭adam88


    BailMeOut wrote: »
    step 1, get a new accountanting firm that has experts in other areas so you can get good advice from a one stop shop.

    Do you have any kids aged 16 or older you can employ?

    What’s the deal with having kids as employees. Just curious !


  • Registered Users Posts: 346 ✭✭thegolfer


    adam88 wrote: »
    What’s the deal with having kids as employees. Just curious !

    Rather than pay your kids out of your own pocket, from after tax money, pay them through the company. Costs less ultimately.

    However the employment must be a legitimate employment, they must work, and provide a service to the company. Revenue are cracking down on this type of thing, and have reversed P35 declarations that I am aware of, and treated the payment as a distribution to the parent\shareholder.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 346 ✭✭thegolfer


    adam88 wrote: »
    What’s the deal with having kids as employees. Just curious !

    Rather than pay your kids out of your own pocket, from after tax money, pay them through the company. Costs less ultimately.

    However the employment must be a legitimate employment, they must work, and provide a service to the company. Revenue are cracking down on this type of thing, and have reversed P35 declarations that I am aware of, and treated the payment as a distribution to the parent\shareholder.


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