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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,876 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Still don't know why Donegal got so many players nominated

    The one game they had to win all year they bottled it


    Following your logic no players other than Dubs would get a nomination let alone an All Star as all the rest lost games during the championship.
    In fact Tyrone lost two yet got two awards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭passremarkable


    Stephen o Brien was unlucky


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    Stephen o Brien was unlucky

    He was but I had assumed he wasn’t getting one after two quiet finals. He was excellent throughout the Super 8’s and in the semi where he got a game changing goal.

    Howard at half back is a bit puzzling. He definitely deserves to be in the team but no. 6 is an odd place to put him. I know we have these positional debates every year but I think this one is stretching it a bit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭passremarkable


    He was but I had assumed he wasn’t getting one after two quiet finals. He was excellent throughout the Super 8’s and in the semi where he got a game changing goal.

    Howard at half back is a bit puzzling. He definitely deserves to be in the team but no. 6 is an odd place to put him. I know we have these positional debates every year but I think this one is stretching it a bit.
    Yea Howard a strange call at 6.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    He was but I had assumed he wasn’t getting one after two quiet finals. He was excellent throughout the Super 8’s and in the semi where he got a game changing goal.

    Howard at half back is a bit puzzling. He definitely deserves to be in the team but no. 6 is an odd place to put him. I know we have these positional debates every year but I think this one is stretching it a bit.

    I’d say it was Howard or Murphy in half forward line, Murphy played most of the year at midfield???? So movement happened to facilitate. As bad as Cavanagh last year.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Mullen or bubbles ahead of colin fennelly for me in hurling all stars


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,686 ✭✭✭Grats


    C__MC wrote: »
    Mullen or bubbles ahead of colin fennelly for me in hurling all stars

    Fennelly was immense for club and county this year, and has continued that fom with his club in recent matches. You couldn't compare what Mullen brings to what Fennelly does.

    Colin Fennelly well deserved his All Star for work rate, taking the hits and not always getting frees he deserved, and making space for other forwards like Mullen. Free takers don't always contribute what the likes of a Fennelly does for 70 minutes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,876 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    ArielAtom wrote: »
    I’d say it was Howard or Murphy in half forward line, Murphy played most of the year at midfield???? So movement happened to facilitate. As bad as Cavanagh last year.


    Murphy was named at full forward in all Donegal`s championship games this year but traveled all over the pitch wherever the need was most, at times seemingly carrying that Donegal team on his own. Even when they were dire against Mayo in the final Super 8 game he dragged them back into it in the second half.
    He scored 2-26 overall so with him being named at 14, and with his overall contribution, being nominated for one of the six forward positions was no surprise and his being awarded an All Star well earned.
    Howard getting his All Star at 6, always regarded as a specialist position, with him never listed or playing there was a bit strange. Cavanagh last year was bizarre.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Both Murphy and Howard really prove that named position is pretty meaningless for quite a number of key players.

    Murphy was exceptional and deserved one, and scored a pile so obviously a forward berth. Howard - and Scully who I think is under-rated - have almost invented a new position. It might be termed sweeper but he survives on instinct and brilliant reading of the game. I saw him at his best in league where I was in lower Hogan and you could follow his movement, often crucial to breaking down opposition attacks and starting Dublin attacks without being much on the ball!

    Is he a centre back? Hardly in the sense we know them, but was there one orthodox centre half this year who deserved it above Howard? You would have to say no.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    Sparks 72 wrote: »
    What a joke Paddy Durcan gets an All Star playing 3 games, alot more deserving players but of course Mayo had to get one

    Had 3 unbelievable games though. Marked mccaffrey and McHugh, and not only done really well, done a load of damage going the other way, all while coming back from injury. Not sure anyone else in either the half back or half forward line of the all stars performed like that in all their games, nevermind 3.
    To be honest, boyle should have gotten one at 6 also. In a parallel universe, had dublin came out flat in the second half against mayo and lost, boyle is probably a big shout for poty. Sticking howard in for him is simply a sell out. He deserved one also, but not at 6. The sunday game toty is a far superior team these days anyway. All stars have become a joke.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Had 3 unbelievable games though. Marked mccaffrey and McHugh, and not only done really well, done a load of damage going the other way, all while coming back from injury. Not sure anyone else in either the half back or half forward line of the all stars performed like that in all their games, nevermind 3.
    To be honest, boyle should have gotten one at 6 also. In a parallel universe, had dublin came out flat in the second half against mayo and lost, boyle is probably a big shout for poty. Sticking howard in for him is simply a sell out. He deserved one also, but not at 6. The sunday game toty is a far superior team these days anyway. All stars have become a joke.


    You"re right MayoMan, they are joke. I was saying that when Andy won it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    Cringey show.

    They could show an edited version.
    I don't know that that would improve it though.

    For the most part sportspeople should be seen and not heard unless they have something to say.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    imme wrote: »
    Cringey show.

    They could show an edited version.
    I don't know that that would improve it though.

    For the most part sportspeople should be seen and not heard unless they have something to say.
    Correction: something intelligent to say.
    "Unbelievable" " everyone had written us off" " we are professional in all but name" doesn't qualify


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Fitzsimons came across as very arrogant and rude in his interview.
    The complete opposite to Sean O’Shea who seemed a bit nervous having to speak in front of big audience and tv.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    No Allstars again for Roscommon even tho they win their province. And this year they did it after beating the big 2 there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Had 3 unbelievable games though. Marked mccaffrey and McHugh, and not only done really well, done a load of damage going the other way, all while coming back from injury. Not sure anyone else in either the half back or half forward line of the all stars performed like that in all their games, nevermind 3.
    To be honest, boyle should have gotten one at 6 also. In a parallel universe, had dublin came out flat in the second half against mayo and lost, boyle is probably a big shout for poty. Sticking howard in for him is simply a sell out. He deserved one also, but not at 6. The sunday game toty is a far superior team these days anyway. All stars have become a joke.

    Durcan was nominated on the Donegal and Dublin games where he played half forward.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Fitzsimons came across as very arrogant and rude in his interview.
    The complete opposite to Sean O’Shea who seemed a bit nervous having to speak in front of big audience and tv.

    What did he say? Met him last year, came across as quiet and shy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Gael85 wrote: »
    What did he say? Met him last year, came across as quiet and shy.

    Yeah he’s likely a sound fella, who has just been drilled by the Dublin machine into giving nothing away. He was asked about it being special this year doing 5 in a row and he just shrugged it off and sort of said it was nothing unusual and just another game. It was a typical big gaa star no personality robot type answer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Yeah he’s likely a sound fella, who has just been drilled by the Dublin machine into giving nothing away. He was asked about it being special this year doing 5 in a row and he just shrugged it off and sort of said it was nothing unusual and just another game. It was a typical big gaa star no personality robot type answer.


    So he wasn't arrogant and rude.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    So he wasn't arrogant and rude.

    He came across as very arrogant.
    It’s probably harsh to say rude as it’s probably just his quiet personality. But maybe best to not put him forward for Hugh profile tv interviews if he’s not gonna engage with the interviewer.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Yeah he’s likely a sound fella, who has just been drilled by the Dublin machine into giving nothing away. He was asked about it being special this year doing 5 in a row and he just shrugged it off and sort of said it was nothing unusual and just another game. It was a typical big gaa star no personality robot type answer.

    Maybe he was nervous like O'Shea and that's his way of dealing with it!

    Most people come across as wooden and rehearsed when facing a mike and having hours to worry about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Yeah he’s likely a sound fella, who has just been drilled by the Dublin machine into giving nothing away. He was asked about it being special this year doing 5 in a row and he just shrugged it off and sort of said it was nothing unusual and just another game. It was a typical big gaa star no personality robot type answer.

    Nothing robotic about Dublin players or management. Won't meet a more level headed group on and off the pitch. I don't know how can be portrayed as arrogant when some players(amateurs) not comfortable doing interviews or been in the lime light.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Maybe he was nervous like O'Shea and that's his way of dealing with it!

    Most people come across as wooden and rehearsed when facing a mike and having hours to worry about it.

    Did u see the interview?? Even Joanne was a bit shocked and not sure how to handle it. Most gaa stars give bland no personality answers but his was just an overly arrogant answer to her question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    I mean the likes of Bernard Brogan and Philly McMahon are great examples of engaging interviews. Despite their achievements and greatness, they come across as humble, yet still extremely charming and charismatic. Their personalities come across in their interviews.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,876 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I imagine Cluxton sweated more during that interview than he has in any Dublin game.
    Comes across as a very shy lad but a great ambassador for the game.
    Being from Donegal Tyrone would not be on top of my Christmas card list, but I was very impressed with how he sought out Sean Cavanagh for a chat at the end of Cavanagh`s last game for Tyrone.
    Delighted for him that he got POTY. Long overdue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Fitzsimons came across as very arrogant and rude in his interview.
    The complete opposite to Sean O’Shea who seemed a bit nervous having to speak in front of big audience and tv.
    Sean O Shea is new to all this rigmarole but he accounted well for himself on the pitch this year


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    Fitzsimons came across as very arrogant and rude in his interview.
    The complete opposite to Sean O’Shea who seemed a bit nervous having to speak in front of big audience and tv.

    I'd forgive him all that because he's a ride😘


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,876 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    No Allstars again for Roscommon even tho they win their province. And this year they did it after beating the big 2 there.


    From when the backdoor was introduced and plus now with the Super 8`s provincial and league performances don`t appear to register anymore when it comes to the All Stars.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    Gael85 wrote: »
    Durcan was nominated on the Donegal and Dublin games where he played half forward.

    Playing the roll of a halfback though to be fair, just higher up the pitch. Also, Mchugh is named at wing back but he doesnt really play there.
    But fair enough, give him one in the half forward berths if that suits you better, he was nailed on in either.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,013 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    Had 3 unbelievable games though. Marked mccaffrey and McHugh, and not only done really well, done a load of damage going the other way, all while coming back from injury. Not sure anyone else in either the half back or half for.
    To be honest, boyle should have gotten one at 6 also. In a parallel universe, had dublin came out flat in the second half against mayo and lost, boyle is probably a big shout for poty. Sticking howard in for him is simply a sell out. He deserved one also, but not at 6. The sunday game toty is a far superior team these days anyway. All stars have become a joke.

    Ah give over. Durcan completely deserves one but Boyles is a long way third in people hard done by the Howard inclusion at 6. Ryan McHugh performance against Kerry and Keogans against Clare were possibly the two standout performances in the entire championship. Keogan was phenomenal by all accounts against Laois also. Are we really comparing Boyle making a few good interceptions and being borderline motm in a poor quality qualifier against Armagh with the ridiculous performance McHugh put in against Kerry in the game of the year? Both had the odd poor performance also


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