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    #7142
    ZiabR
    Registered Users Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Fair points. I suppose the fact that they have now delayed 3-4 AAA games into late 2020 to "fix" the issues, is a positive step. Certainly wouldn't see EA doing the same.


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    #7143
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,489 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Yupp i found myself giving out about Ubi at least once a year before realising how many of their games I've bought and enjoyed that year. They do seem samey when all put together on a list like their sub service which just doesn't seem with it (especially if you've played most already) but it does take balls to admit when something isn't working and place delays to introduce changes.

    Look at Anthem, i think i saw that in Argos recently for 12 euro, EA/Bioware need to just put it down and concentrate on the ME Trilogy remaster already :)


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    #7144
    Jordan 199
    Registered Users Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    ZiabR wrote: »
    Fair points. I suppose the fact that they have now delayed 3-4 AAA games into late 2020 to "fix" the issues, is a positive step. Certainly wouldn't see EA doing the same.
    Bethesda need to take a long hard look at themselves too, especially when you look at the state of Fallout 76. I'd be cautious of anything they put out in the future now.


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    #7145
    ebbsy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Wwe 2k20 - what the hell happened there.

    Vince won't be too happy with that.


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    #7146
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,241 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Wwe 2k20 - what the hell happened there.

    Vince won't be too happy with that.

    Short story is that most of the previous games were developed by Yukes, but they left. This is the first one developed by Visual Concepts, and they only had about a year to throw it together.

    I think they had some stuff from 2k so didn't have to start completely from scratch, but... yikes...


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    #7147
    Mr Crispy
    Registered Users Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Looks like EA games will be returning to Steam (DSOG).


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    #7148
    Robert ninja
    Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    Darch Nemesis wrote: »
    Looks like EA games will be returning to Steam (DSOG).


    Can't think of any I'd wanna play but at least there's a possibility for me to now via Steam's Proton.


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    #7149
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Origin must be doing better than their full sales. Would probably still prefer Origin Access tbh, cost wise.

    Same with Ubi tbh, would rather just subscribe for a bit.


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    #7150
    Robert ninja
    Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    Google-AI assisted bans for CSGO players who use 'toxic' text: https://www.pcgamer.com/20000-toxic-csgo-players-banned-in-six-weeks-by-faceit-and-googles-new-chat-ai archive.

    Talk about useless! I'd much prefer an AI to just automute players who hit a certain dB range in their mic or whose langauge is detected as non-English. But that would actually be useful so I guess it's not on the itinerary for these kinds of projects.


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    #7151
    Benzino
    Registered Users Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Benzino


    Robert ninja wrote: »
    Google-AI assisted bans for CSGO players who use 'toxic' text: https://www.pcgamer.com/20000-toxic-csgo-players-banned-in-six-weeks-by-faceit-and-googles-new-chat-ai archive.

    Talk about useless! I'd much prefer an AI to just automute players who hit a certain dB range in their mic or whose langauge is detected as non-English. But that would actually be useful so I guess it's not on the itinerary for these kinds of projects.

    Seems pretty useful to me, if it cuts out racism, hate speech and so forth it can only be a good thing.


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    #7152
    Robert ninja
    Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    Benzino wrote: »
    Seems pretty useful to me, if it cuts out racism, hate speech and so forth it can only be a good thing.
    It's a free to play game where users can just create a new account to completely subvert the ban. The bans are also retroactive so will absolutely not stop any kind of social interaction in real-time and you're likely never to see the same player in CSGO again whether or not they're banned... so no it's not useful. Do you play CSGO? Anybody who plays it knows any kind of griefing is done via microphone, not text which you'll barely even notice while playing and can easily ignore. Mics you actually need to go for the mute since audio is invasive to the gameplay (footsteps and weapon interaction can give away positions), either from being too loud, griefing or speaking a different langauge (likely all 3).

    CSGO suffers from massive cheating problem, too. People saying bad words in the text box is literally the last thing CSGO customers give a feck about them working on.


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    #7153
    Benzino
    Registered Users Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Benzino


    Robert ninja wrote: »
    It's a free to play game where users can just create a new account to completely subvert the ban. The bans are also retroactive so will absolutely not stop any kind of social interaction in real-time and you're likely never to see the same player in CSGO again whether or not they're banned... so no it's not useful. Do you play CSGO? Anybody who plays it knows any kind of griefing is done via microphone, not text which you'll barely even notice while playing and can easily ignore. Mics you actually need to go for the mute since audio is invasive to the gameplay (footsteps and weapon interaction can give away positions), either from being too loud, griefing or speaking a different langauge (likely all 3).

    CSGO suffers from massive cheating problem, too. People saying bad words in the text box is literally the last thing CSGO customers give a feck about them working on.

    I don't play it, no, but getting the text system up and running would seem like the first step in implementing it for voice chat. The next step would be converting voice to text and then running it through the text system they have (albeit that would be a naïve approach). It's a step in the right direction.

    I also assume this is a system that is planned to be used in other games too. As for the bans not been enough, perhaps they should be IP bans, not account bans, but that seems more like a decision by the dev/publisher and not a limitation of the system.


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    #7154
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Robert ninja wrote: »
    Google-AI assisted bans for CSGO players who use 'toxic' text: https://www.pcgamer.com/20000-toxic-csgo-players-banned-in-six-weeks-by-faceit-and-googles-new-chat-ai archive.

    Talk about useless! I'd much prefer an AI to just automute players who hit a certain dB range in their mic or whose langauge is detected as non-English. But that would actually be useful so I guess it's not on the itinerary for these kinds of projects.


    Useless to you maybe.

    Also with this tech they could be banned faster than they can create new accounts, which lets face it, is a ball-ache, so eventually they will either stop, or quit.


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    #7155
    Robert ninja
    Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    PostWoke wrote: »
    Useless to you maybe.
    Useless to CSGO players. Bans are not necessary for things like trash talk. Auto-mute sure I can get behind that as long as its a user option (especially for non-English language!). I certainly don't want an enemy or team mate getting ejected from a ranked game because they said a naughty. Ranked games get screwed enough as it is with disconnects.
    PostWoke wrote: »
    Also with this tech they could be banned faster than they can create new accounts, which lets face it, is a ball-ache, so eventually they will either stop, or quit.
    Users used to buy the game over and over after getting banned before it was free to play. You've no idea how persistent bad actors can be for this title. This is just google flexing their censorship muscle anyway. They have no interest in actually improving this game for its users.
    Benzino wrote: »
    It's a step in the right direction.
    AI assisted social control has never been a step in the right direction, anywhere. I have no desire for more google mommy'ing, in general or in games I play. They can't even keep the cheaters banned and that's a technical issue: 1s and 0s yet they still struggle with it and is probably the biggest issue in the entire game affecting even tournaments. Yet still an easier problem to solve than cultural, contextual human interaction between allies and enemies. But hey non-CSGO players are all for CSGO having social issues addressed by google... post Project Veritas, it couldn't possibly be a bad idea or waste of time.

    News
    Fornite leaker getting legal action against them: https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/fortnite-leaker-sued-by-epic-games-over-breach-of-contract


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    #7156
    Varik
    Registered Users Posts: 12,486 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    We've had developers add their competitors, memes, and anything china/Hong Kong related to swear list. So ye I don't trust them to anything other than look out for themselves.


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    #7157
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Robert ninja wrote: »
    Useless to CSGO players.

    Again, maybe to you, I don't think you speak for them all though. I certainly don't want to hear that CYKA BLYYYYYYYYAT ****. Let them be banned before they even get to my ear.
    Robert ninja wrote: »
    Users used to buy the game over and over after getting banned before it was free to play. You've no idea how persistent bad actors can be for this title.

    Less persistent than a literal AI algo I bet.
    Robert ninja wrote: »
    This is just google flexing their censorship muscle anyway. They have no interest in actually improving this game for its users.

    But Valve do, and ultimately if implemented into CS it would be a Valve decision. It's their game, they get to decide their game's culture.
    Robert ninja wrote: »
    AI assisted social control has never been a step in the right direction, anywhere.

    Got some examples for us chief? From countries in the west obviously, CCP is a little different until Google starts coming to our doors to ghost us :pac:


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    #7158
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    So it appears the news related to EA games returning to Steam wasn't as straight forward was originally thought, it looks like it's EA Access which is going to be available on the platform, the first subscription service to do so.

    EA Access and EA Games on Steam - EA and Valve Partnership

    The press release is fairly light on the details so it should be interesting to see what additional info comes out over the next while.


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    #7159
    Grumpypants
    Registered Users Posts: 7,753 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    gizmo wrote: »
    So it appears the news related to EA games returning to Steam wasn't as straight forward was originally thought, it looks like it's EA Access which is going to be available on the platform, the first subscription service to do so.

    EA Access and EA Games on Steam - EA and Valve Partnership

    The press release is fairly light on the details so it should be interesting to see what additional info comes out over the next while.

    You can pre-order Jedi Fallen Order https://store.steampowered.com/app/1172380/STAR_WARS_Jedi_Fallen_Order/


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    #7160
    Varik
    Registered Users Posts: 12,486 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Wonder what cut was agreed for games going forward or for the sub.

    Origin still used.

    I don't know who suggested it or if it was part of a humble brag from Valve but was it suggested that Steam games could be sold in the future without steamworks integration where Valve would take a lesser cut?


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    #7161
    Robert ninja
    Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    PostWoke wrote: »
    ***
    Replied in other thread

    GOG's halloween sale started
    https://nichegamer.com/2019/10/29/gog-halloween-2019-sale-now-live/

    Sony getting ahead of Playstation trademarks
    https://nichegamer.com/2019/10/28/sony-trademarks-ps6-ps7-ps8-ps9-and-ps10/


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    #7162
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,822 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Amazing new game for the vita

    https://www.play-asia.com/pantsu-hunter-back-to-the-90s-limited-edition/13/70d2t7?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=ematic&utm_campaign=l4-conversions-purchase&utm_content=bestsellers-staticcarousel1&utm_term=socialfollowers365d&fbclid=IwAR1I9ITsbBwo6dXqqLB2ISukR2pdGXkYi-u2D1jUGlnfmSEjyX_yqMA_--o
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    #7163
    ERG89
    Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    It's sad that even a game of that nature makes more effort with a physical edition of a game than Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft do.


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    #7164
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    ERG89 wrote: »
    It's sad that even a game of that nature makes more effort with a physical edition of a game than Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft do.
    Nah dude, it doesn't actually come with the 18 panties for your collection...


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    #7165
    ERG89
    Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    gizmo wrote: »
    Nah dude, it doesn't actually come with the 18 panties for your collection...

    I can't remember the last game I bought that had a manual. Yet for some bizarre reason there are still spaces made for them in boxes.


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    #7166
    Evade
    Registered Users Posts: 6,726 ✭✭✭Evade


    ERG89 wrote: »
    I can't remember the last game I bought that had a manual. Yet for some bizarre reason there are still spaces made for them in boxes.
    All Blu-Ray boxes have clips for a manual.


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    #7167
    Robert ninja
    Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    ERG89 wrote: »
    It's sad that even a game of that nature makes more effort with a physical edition of a game than Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft do.
    Yeah that nature, ew. Let's get back to the wholesome violence.
    Isn't it a good thing that at least some are doing quality physical releases? It looks pretty tame and chill tbh. 80s style anime VN... pretty comfy. Gave the Vita back to my sis though. I find most niche titles and VNs from Japan tend to have quality physical releases. They value their customers I guess. I'm not really one for physical releases, though.

    Miyamoto gets highest artistic honor.
    https://nichegamer.com/2019/10/29/shigeru-miyamoto-is-first-game-developer-recognized-as-person-of-cultural-merit-in-japan/

    Playstation Vue is ded
    https://nichegamer.com/2019/10/29/sony-is-shutting-down-playstation-vue/


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    #7168
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Robert ninja wrote: »
    Replied in other thread

    Nope. My suggestions are not 'balls', grow up. I don't want to hear the negativity from them, or you, when trying to enjoy myself. As do many others. Including Valve apparently. And again, no, people will not be as persistent to be assholes as a literal AI. Hell if they are, they can spend all their time making accounts instead, or they can learn how to be adults. Apparently something all CS players need to learn. Your links are also hilarious. You think instead of banning crappy CS players they'll misgender them? LMAO. These AI's have been trained for a very specific purpose. And I bet they're smart enough to at least post in the right thread...
    Robert ninja wrote: »
    Yeah that nature, ew. Let's get back to the wholesome violence.

    Yeah, as opposed to games for sexual deviants who don't get laid in real life.

    The Vita, new releases wise, has been exclusively for people like that for over a year now. Games like Darkest Dungeon and Undertale were some of the last normie releases for that system afaik.


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    #7169
    Evade
    Registered Users Posts: 6,726 ✭✭✭Evade


    A pervert's money is just as good as anyone else's.


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    #7170
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    "
    Evade wrote: »
    A pervert's money is just as good as anyone else's.
    " - SCEJ


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    #7171
    Evade
    Registered Users Posts: 6,726 ✭✭✭Evade


    PostWoke wrote: »
    "" - SCEJ
    Or any company with sense. Sony's most lucrative franchise started out as one of those game everyone seems to be afraid of for some reason.


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