Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

ToBeFrank123 · 24-10-2019 09:29AM

Loblox wrote: »

What that says to me, and feel free to disagree, is that there is a massive audience out there looking for something like Finding Joy. I'm not sure what they're looking for, what they saw that appealed to them in the promos and ads. Maybe that it was a female led comedy, or just a comedy that looked kinda funny, or maybe just more Amy Huberman. But they're there and they want this, whatever it is and whatever they thought was being offered. And they took one look at it, said "nope," and went about their evening.

I'd be one of these people. I used to give every new RTE show or comedy a chance and watch the first episode and decide if it was for me or not.

But after countless disappointments you just give up on giving new shows a chance. From what I can see the "comedies" are all very similar - female working in high paced work environment, difficult male boss, she spends evening on the couch drinking or going out getting p*ssed usually at Coppers, rinse, wash, repeat. It's Bridget Jones over and over. I liked the Bridget Jones movies, except maybe the last one, but what RTE offer is just a poor man/woman's clone of Bridget Jones. Surely someone somewhere can write something better and without the usual actors and actresses.

Elmo · 24-10-2019 11:24AM

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

From what I can see the "comedies" are all very similar - female working in high paced work environment, difficult male boss, she spends evening on the couch drinking or going out getting p*ssed usually at Coppers, rinse, wash, repeat. It's Bridget Jones over and over. I liked the Bridget Jones movies, except maybe the last one, but what RTE offer is just a poor man/woman's clone of Bridget Jones. Surely someone somewhere can write something better and without the usual actors and actresses.

Other than finding joy what other comedy from RTÉ did this? I am not sure if I’d count Can’t cope, won’t cope. So that’s 1 - 2 maybe.

ToBeFrank123 · 24-10-2019 11:58AM

Elmo wrote: »

Other than finding joy what other comedy from RTÉ did this? I am not sure if I’d count Can’t cope, won’t cope. So that’s 1 - 2 maybe.

So two comedies that were similar.
Then there was Striking Out, which people said was similar to the Good Wife.
I'm sure if you look enough at other recent Irish comedies and drama, you'd see similarities to other programs.

Elmo · 24-10-2019 12:08PM

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

So two comedies that were similar.
Then there was Striking Out, which people said was similar to the Good Wife.
I'm sure if you look enough at other recent Irish comedies and drama, you'd see similarities to other programs.

Maybe 2, can’t cope won’t cope is maybe similar but is actually about 2 younger women starting out.

The problem is there are so few to go through. But I agree RTÉ and the press tend to talk about Ireland’s answer to ... [insert popular tv series/film].

James Brown · 24-10-2019 12:44PM

I know many people who would love a good comedy. So if it's looking like it's happening they'll tune in. I personally love when RTE has a new comedy sketch show because the train wreck can be amusing in its own right.

Thelonious Monk · 24-10-2019 03:14PM

I would imagine Amy Hubes should have another f*cking awful comedy out any day now on RTE?

Elmo · 24-10-2019 05:47PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I would imagine Amy Hubes should have another f*cking awful comedy out any day now on RTE?

Don’t worry Thelonious Monk Finding Joy 2 is coming back, in 2020, Hubes doesn’t have to get a new vehicle.

RabbleRouser2k · 24-10-2019 08:07PM

Elmo wrote: »

Don’t worry Thelonious Monk Finding Joy 2 is coming back, in 2020, Hubes doesn’t have to get a new vehicle.

They'll probably just dump it on the RTE player.

ShamNNspace · 27-10-2019 03:13PM

What to do on a bank holiday weekend?? Shur stick on a Harry Potter there for the umpteenth time it'll kill 3 hours on a Sunday

Elmo · 27-10-2019 08:46PM

ShamNNspace wrote: »

What to do on a bank holiday weekend?? Shur stick on a Harry Potter there for the umpteenth time it'll kill 3 hours on a Sunday

Also strange as they didn’t finish the series the last time round so each of these potter movies aired just a few weeks ago ...in fairness this is unusual for RTÉ.

jimmynokia · 28-10-2019 03:33PM

NEW FACE.......

https://www.thejournal.ie/nationwide-rte-new-presenter-4869354-Oct2019/

NIMAN · 28-10-2019 03:35PM

Well, a new old face.

sligojoek · 28-10-2019 04:11PM

Sorted till retirement age.

James Brown · 28-10-2019 04:54PM

I'd say they looked far and wide...in the canteen.

jippo nolan · 28-10-2019 05:14PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

I'd say they looked far and wide...in the canteen.

If you hang around the canteen long enough, something always turns up!

RabbleRouser2k · 29-10-2019 12:19AM

How long until Blathnaid starts a fight with Anne Cassin, and RTE have another claim of bullying on their hands?

We all know why she hasn't had a steady gig for ten years or so.

Tea Shock · 29-10-2019 01:33AM

Can't believe Mary Kennedy is 65
She looks really well for a 65-year-old

But back to the point of the thread, I was talking to a lad last week who has spent a lot of time in RTE over the years. Said about their financial woes, it's hardly surprising when there are 12 fellas called Tom on every set whose job it is to move one cable!

sligojoek · 29-10-2019 01:52AM

Tea Shock wrote: »

Can't believe Mary Kennedy is 65
She looks really well for a 65-year-old

But back to the point of the thread, I was talking to a lad last week who has spent a lot of time in RTE over the years. Said about their financial woes, it's hardly surprising when there are 12 fellas called Tom on every set whose job it is to move one cable!

My late grand uncle worked in Ford in Dagenham most of his life. He reckoned it took 4 people to change a lightbulb there.

padd b1975 · 29-10-2019 02:27AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I dont think "wasn't bad" is the level we should be aiming at.

Paths to Freedom was excellent.

Easily the best comedy I've seen from RTE in my 45 years on this earth.

RabbleRouser2k · 29-10-2019 05:11AM

padd b1975 wrote: »

Paths to Freedom was excellent.

Easily the best comedy I've seen from RTE in my 45 years on this earth.

Yet that was made almost 20 years ago. There are people who weren't born when that show originally aired.

When the creators (McElhatton and co) made a follow up series, Fergus's Wedding, it didn't do so well.
They weren't given a second chance after that. I know McElhatton appeared in a few other comedy shows after that, where he did get to write. But that was 8 years after Fergus' wedding.

Compare that to Huberman, for example. How many shows has she had, back to back, that she's completely unqualified for?
She's never been out of work with RTE.

Elmo · 29-10-2019 10:33AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Yet that was made almost 20 years ago. There are people who weren't born when that show originally aired.

When the creators (McElhatton and co) made a follow up series, Fergus's Wedding, it didn't do so well.
They weren't given a second chance after that. I know McElhatton appeared in a few other comedy shows after that, where he did get to write. But that was 8 years after Fergus' wedding.

Compare that to Huberman, for example. How many shows has she had, back to back, that she's completely unqualified for?
She's never been out of work with RTE.

I think most of Paths To Freedom saw it as a blip, as did Bachelor’s Walk cast and crew. All have continued to work in IrishTV&film. At least Between 2000 and up until 2008 RTÉ were commissioning a mix of good and bad comedy and drama.

Ulysses Gaze · 29-10-2019 12:00PM

Spending like it is going out of fashion...

€350,000 on hotels.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/cash-strapped-rte-spend-350000-20744155.amp

Idbatterim · 29-10-2019 12:57PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Spending like it is going out of fashion...

€350,000 on hotels.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/cash-strapped-rte-spend-350000-20744155.amp

they couldnt buy 2/3 apartments in the land that they sold no?

AndyBoBandy · 29-10-2019 01:01PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

they couldnt buy 2/3 apartments in the land that they sold no?

Apartment complexes usually don't have free bars & room service!!

RabbleRouser2k · 29-10-2019 05:47PM

Elmo wrote: »

I think most of Paths To Freedom saw it as a blip, as did Bachelor’s Walk cast and crew. All have continued to work in IrishTV&film. At least Between 2000 and up until 2008 RTÉ were commissioning a mix of good and bad comedy and drama.

Simon Delaney's given up on acting, I believe. It's why he's presenting IReland AM.

Many of the actors in BW quit acting not too long after. Delaney destroyed his career with crap such as 'The Last Furlong'... (Jesus, that s**t was insulting to the Portugese, the Irish... f**k it, humanity itsself. And Delaney co-created and co-wrote it).

I think when it comes to drama, RTE have more luck. But with comedy-nope. Comedy takes more work-hard graft, and rewrites than drama. In order to get a joke to work, you might have to rewrite a joke 20 to 30 times. (A la the classic Simpson's seasons'.) You have to work out where you can afford a 'weak' joke vs where you can afford to put a hard hitter.
And if you mess up the joke-it will come across as mean, or tragic.

When RTE 'attempt' comedy... it's clearly delivered prematurely.

James Brown · 29-10-2019 06:31PM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

...

When RTE 'attempt' comedy... it's clearly delivered prematurely.

You know nothing. It's ignorant you are...

Quality

Elmo · 29-10-2019 07:11PM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Simon Delaney's given up on acting, I believe. It's why he's presenting IReland AM.

Many of the actors in BW quit acting not too long after. Delaney destroyed his career with crap such as 'The Last Furlong'... (Jesus, that s**t was insulting to the Portugese, the Irish... f**k it, humanity itsself. And Delaney co-created and co-wrote it).

I think when it comes to drama, RTE have more luck. But with comedy-nope. Comedy takes more work-hard graft, and rewrites than drama. In order to get a joke to work, you might have to rewrite a joke 20 to 30 times. (A la the classic Simpson's seasons'.) You have to work out where you can afford a 'weak' joke vs where you can afford to put a hard hitter.
And if you mess up the joke-it will come across as mean, or tragic.

When RTE 'attempt' comedy... it's clearly delivered prematurely.

Took on the role the da in the snapper and usually on stage, also zonad and a bit part on The Good Wife.

Witcherly has had a number of roles since, the other guy was in RAW.

I think the girl was in Sing Street as a mother, while the director of Once & Sing Street was a producer and director of BW.

Yes writers are important and so is development which RTÉ don’t invest time in.

The J Stands for Jay · 29-10-2019 08:07PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

Paths to Freedom was excellent.

Easily the best comedy I've seen from RTE in my 45 years on this earth.

I'd never seen it, but the hype train convinced me to rent the movie from xtravision. If it was of a similar standard to the TV series, and that was the best rte comedy, then they may as well give up on comedy altogether.

Elmo · 29-10-2019 08:57PM

McGaggs wrote: »

Is never seen it, but the hype train convinced me to rent the movie from xtravision. If it was of a similar standard to the TV series, and that was the best rte comedy, then they may as well give up on comedy altogether.

The Sequel movie isn't as good as the series (Rats ???). Though there are some funny parts to it. You may not have liked it but that's really your own criticism, there's lots of Hyped TV that doesn't live up to people's expectations.

RabbleRouser2k · 29-10-2019 09:54PM

Elmo wrote: »

The Sequel movie isn't as good as the series (Rats ???). Though there are some funny parts to it. You may not have liked it but that's really your own criticism, there's lots of Hyped TV that doesn't live up to people's expectations.

The film is really dated now-you've got Louis Walsh and Gerry Ryan 'spoofing themselves'. But Ryan being dead doesn't make it funny.
And Louis's a parody of himself, tbh, so it doesn't make it funny.

Then there's this 'Samantha Mumba' cameo where she's portrayed as a major star making a cameo...

...she can barely get a gig doing panto in Limerick nowadays. Even when the movie came out, her star was rapidly waning.

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