Teenagers with eco anxiety being driven to school.

M256 · 27-10-2019 03:52PM

Weltsmertz wrote: »

Official CSO stats
Percentage of secondary school students being driven to school by car has increased from 9% to 42%. Significant decrease in numbers walking or taking bus. Percentage cycling down by over 90%

And again these are the teenagers that are lecturing us about climate change.

The last couple of generations in the western world did not experience any real hardship, so people naturally got bored, this is why we have all these protests. Same time people in the west got much softer, walking to school is now too dangerous, kids need to be driven literally to the school doorsteps. Things are so mixed up.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 27-10-2019 07:15PM

I was told by my teacher in 2nd class back in 1997 that the oil would be gone by 2020, in 2019 Shell alone are stating that they've 300 yrs of know supply, more is found in prospecting each yr. The patch found off the coast of Waterford in the 90s is not scheduled to be drilled for another 100 yrs . There's always been a sense of fear mongering around the climate business.

There's money to be made there, I've gone into DEF recently and I've no regrets or qualms. I know I'll make money even though it's a racket. If this is the way the world is going then I'm to take advantage of it.

iamwhoiam · 27-10-2019 07:17PM

Weltsmertz wrote: »

It is more your perception of the world that has changed. Children is other countries routinely walk or cycle to school. It is the narrative about how dangerous the big bad world is in Ireland that has changed.

Children in Ireland also walk to school routinely . I walk a grandchild to school and the paths are chock a block with juniors going on way and seniors the other way

Mules · 27-10-2019 07:18PM

Weltsmertz wrote: »

I specifically posted about teenagers going to secondary school and you try to use stats for college students. The stats are very clear. There has been a 90% fall in teenagers cycling to school and a significant fall in numbers walking. Do you remember school gates in the 80s being clogged with SUVs dropping children?

That's the parents decision, it's not the fault of the children.

Weltsmertz · 27-10-2019 08:04PM

Mules wrote: »

That's the parents decision, it's not the fault of the children.

There may be something in that. However if that is the case maybe the teenagers concerned about climate change would make a real difference if they had a quiet word with their mothers rather than going on protests and making demands of other adults.

BENDYBINN · 27-10-2019 08:40PM

My poor teenagers are so concerned about climate change that they need to take hour long showers to calm themselves...........

beggars_bush · 27-10-2019 10:00PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

I see lots of teenagers walking to school in the morning. Not too sure what you're getting at OP?

Walking from their parents car to the school door

Dj Stiggie · 27-10-2019 10:24PM

Steyr 556 wrote: »

I grew up in an era where literally some underpaid Russian conscript in a freezing nuclear missile command bunker could misinterpret the readouts from his faulty console and trigger nuclear armageddon. On several occasions this was very close to happening. CND was pretty big but nobody was getting anxiety from it, I didn't lose any sleep. This was even after Chernobyl and tv shows like Threads and When the Wind Blows.

It was certainly a thing in the States. People built fallout shelters and stockpiled food. Sitting presidents received letters from children begging them not to push the button. There's documentation of night terrors.

But it didn't happen to you directly, so of course it's not real.

Hoboo · 27-10-2019 10:29PM

It's not about climate change, it's about feeling rebellious, and a day off school.

Badly Drunk Boy · 27-10-2019 10:34PM

Weltsmertz wrote: »

There may be something in that. However if that is the case maybe the teenagers concerned about climate change would make a real difference if they had a quiet word with their mothers rather than going on protests and making demands of other adults.

Did you consider that a lot of these teenagers protesting on the streets of Dublin and elsewhere are doing so for the day off school, or even just for something different to do? Obviously, some are really genuine about it, but I reckon a significant proportion are doing it for the buzz/bandwagon-jumping/missing school.

kowloon · 27-10-2019 10:35PM

Weltsmertz wrote: »

Do you remember school gates in the 80s being clogged with SUVs dropping children?

Do you remember kids in the 80s being obsessed with their phones?

wakka12 · 27-10-2019 11:45PM

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

Did you consider that a lot of these teenagers protesting on the streets of Dublin and elsewhere are doing so for the day off school, or even just for something different to do? Obviously, some are really genuine about it, but I reckon a significant proportion are doing it for the buzz/bandwagon-jumping/missing school.

Even if so, what is the big deal? Hardly the worst bandwagon young people could be jumping on. Surely nice to see young people thinking about trying to improve the collective future of our planet, or at the very least supporting their peers who genuinely do care

Weltsmertz wrote: »

There may be something in that. However if that is the case maybe the teenagers concerned about climate change would make a real difference if they had a quiet word with their mothers rather than going on protests and making demands of other adults.

How would you know they havnt already?

Paddy Cow · 28-10-2019 01:17AM

Dj Stiggie wrote: »

It was certainly a thing in the States. People built fallout shelters and stockpiled food. Sitting presidents received letters from children begging them not to push the button. There's documentation of night terrors.

But it didn't happen to you directly, so of course it's not real.

This was before my time but I was told that the Irish government sent out iodine tablets. Did this actually happen or was I being fed a porkie?

Hoboo · 28-10-2019 01:23AM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

This was before my time but I was told that the Irish government sent out iodine tablets. Did this actually happen or was I being fed a porkie?

I still have them somewhere. They were always kept in a bowl on the piano, so everyone knew what to do when the **** hit the fan. My parents thought it was hilarious it was that ridiculous.

KWAG2019 · 28-10-2019 01:30AM

Anxiety is not being worried about something. If someone suffers from anxiety accusing them of hypocrisy and offering simplistic reasoning will not help them. But that was never the goal was it.

mrsdewinter · 28-10-2019 01:31AM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

This was before my time but I was told that the Irish government sent out iodine tablets. Did this actually happen or was I being fed a porkie?

The iodine tablets went out in the wake of 911 when the Govt got a bit antsy remembering that Sellafield was just across the water and if people were flying planes into high-profile/sensitive targets, a nuclear power station may well be on their radar.

So, no, that happened long after the Cold War ended.

uck51js9zml2yt · 28-10-2019 01:46AM

If my kids spoke to an adult like Greta what's her face did they'd get an almighty slap for such disrespect. I've taught them better.
The kid has autism and is being abused by whoever is behind her.

It's the greatest load of garbage ever. We've already had "global warming" and cooling.
Anyone remember the ice age?
Had to come from somewhere and then they melted.

One eyed Jack · 28-10-2019 01:50AM

mrsdewinter wrote: »

The iodine tablets went out in the wake of 911 when the Govt got a bit antsy remembering that Sellafield was just across the water and if people were flying planes into high-profile/sensitive targets, a nuclear power station may well be on their radar.

So, no, that happened long after the Cold War ended.

‘Twas a few years before then mrs d - 2002, but you’re right about the idea that it was in the event of a breach at Sellafield -

The 2002 batch – 14.2million tablets at a cost of €630,000 – expired in 2005.

They will not be getting replaced, the Department says, because the threat of a nuclear meltdown has receded and taking them wouldn’t do anything, anyway.

Remember iodine tablets? You won't be getting them again

I remember people couldn’t take the idea seriously at all

lalababa · 28-10-2019 02:17AM

Walking to school in towns and citys should be very much encouraged, alas, alot of Irish people don't know what an umbrella is.
In the countryside however , driving cluture/habits make it even too dangerous for an adult to walk. Traffic is just too fast.

Better Than Christ · 28-10-2019 02:23AM

Aaden Sticky Skullcap wrote: »

If my kids spoke to an adult like Greta what's her face did they'd get an almighty slap for such disrespect. I've taught them better.
The kid has autism and is being abused by whoever is behind her.

Whatever about disagreeing with her views (which also happen to be the views of almost every climatologist in the world), I've never heard her speaking in anything other than a polite and respectful tone. But I suppose, if you're into slapping children, then your idea of what constitutes respect probably emanates from an era when children were supposed to be seen and not heard.

Also, it's a low blow using her autism against her.

Victor · 28-10-2019 02:42AM

Weltsmertz wrote: »

However are they not being hypocrites. If they are concerned about climate change should they not look at their own behavior first and realise that being driven everywhere in a gas gusling SUV means that they are part of the problem and not part of the solution.

They are still children and they are being controlled by their parents. It is the parents that say that they can't walk, cycle or use public transport, not the children.

DrPhilG · 28-10-2019 02:45AM

Better Than Christ wrote: »

I've never heard her speaking in anything other than a polite and respectful tone.

Bull. Even if you agree with her doomsday predictions, the "how dare you" speech could never in a million years be described as polite or respectful. It was the fact that it was the very opposite of polite and respectful that made it so popular.

Better Than Christ wrote: »

an era when children were supposed to be seen and not heard.

Ahhh, those were the days. Now the world is breeding an army of spoilt entitled little assholes whose parents don't dare instill any discipline or self control.

Better Than Christ wrote: »

Also, it's a low blow using her autism against her.

On that we agree. It is a disgrace. Her parents know her condition very well, and know that she is prone to fixation on a subject to the point of distress. Yet rather than try to protect her from that distress, they and their Eco-dickhead friends are whipping her into a frenzy for some cheap publicity.

sdanseo · 28-10-2019 02:49AM

I drive to work each morning (no viable bus alternative) and on the way out of the estate I have to turn onto the main road to the local school, the one I went to in fact.

It's tops 1km from the junction to the school. But every morning, without fail, it takes several minutes to make the turn because of those wanting to join the traffic jam that's already backed up that 1km. Little Jimmy must be driven to the school gate.

It's mind boggling that more of the precious little sproglets aren't told to walk, especially since there's about 4 lollipop persons paid to press the button on the traffic lights for them these days.

kowloon · 28-10-2019 02:56AM

Steyr 556 wrote: »

I grew up in an era where literally some underpaid Russian conscript in a freezing nuclear missile command bunker could misinterpret the readouts from his faulty console and trigger nuclear armageddon. On several occasions this was very close to happening. CND was pretty big but nobody was getting anxiety from it, I didn't lose any sleep. This was even after Chernobyl and tv shows like Threads and When the Wind Blows.

You've just triggered the ever living fcuk out of my Threads anxiety.

Better Than Christ · 28-10-2019 03:02AM

DrPhilG wrote: »

Bull. Even if you agree with her doomsday predictions, the "how dare you" speech could never in a million years be described as polite or respectful. It was the fact that it was the very opposite of polite and respectful that made it so popular.

Since when does saying "how dare you?" constitute impoliteness?

Regardless, someone who refers to a generation as "spoilt entitled little assholes" and describes people who share the views of almost every climatologist in the world as "eco-dickheads" is probably not the best judge of what is and isn't polite.

freshpopcorn · 28-10-2019 03:16AM

I do find they can be inconsistencies with some of the teenagers who are big into climate change. It's a little like the vegetarians who'll eat chicken. I don't think their heart is truly in it.

Lewis_Benson · 28-10-2019 03:27AM

Weltsmertz wrote: »

Teenagers these days are fragile and easily upset.
One of the things that seems to upset them the most these days is climate change. It makes them anxious and they even have protests and strikes to admonish adults for their irresponsible behaviors that contribute.
However many Irish teenagers unlike children years ago or children in other countries can no longer walk or cycle to school.
The roads are dangerous, stranger danger, they might get cold, they might get wet and catch pneumonia, they might hurt their backs from carrying schoolbags etc
However are they not being hypocrites. If they are concerned about climate change should they not look at their own behavior first and realise that being driven everywhere in a gas gusling SUV means that they are part of the problem and not part of the solution.

Fairies ..

The Bishop Basher · 28-10-2019 08:45AM

Better Than Christ wrote: »

I've never heard her speaking in anything other than a polite and respectful tone.

You haven’t watched he speeches then ? Her “how dare you speech” was anything but polite and respectful. She was visibly losing it as she blamed us all for robbing her childhood while she continues her trip of a lifetime around the states. She needs a serious reality check that kid.

Victor wrote: »

They are still children and they are being controlled by their parents. It is the parents that say that they can't walk, cycle or use public transport, not the children.

How do you know this ? Have you asked them all ?

Alf Veedersane · 28-10-2019 09:39AM

Not every child that is driven to school is driven to school in a gas guzzler or SUV.

If so many children are being driven to school, how come the Dart is always jammed with them?

If they were in it for a day off, wouldn't they just do something they were interested in and not actually go to a protest?

Why do adults have such an issue with it?

uck51js9zml2yt · 28-10-2019 09:44AM

Better Than Christ wrote: »

Whatever about disagreeing with her views (which also happen to be the views of almost every climatologist in the world), I've never heard her speaking in anything other than a polite and respectful tone. But I suppose, if you're into slapping children, then your idea of what constitutes respect probably emanates from an era when children were supposed to be seen and not heard.

Also, it's a low blow using her autism against her.

You obviously missed her UN speech.
Never used her autism against her but she's tunnel vision and it's being used as is she.
Seems your happy to advocate child abuse when it suits your purpose.

As for kids being driven to school.
Mine are...in a diesel. School is 12 km from home and no bus service.

Teenagers with eco anxiety being driven to school.

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