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Rugby World Cup 2019 Japan The hunt for Webb Ellis

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    Bookies don't always get everything right, obviously.

    England had a very fortuitous summer in the cricket, got both the rub of the green in the ODI World Cup Final (against NZ) and to a certain extent in the Ashes (which they should have lost outright). No logic behind it but it just appears they're getting the rub of the green quite a bit sport recently.

    An England v Wales final would be a great viewing, though I think I would probably prefer South Africa to get there and win it.

    I don't think SA would've beaten NZ in the final and that they would be better against England. I don't know why I think that, but I do think SA's chances have gone up significantly following today's result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,805 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Anyone know if a tv channel is showing a full replay of the this mornings game, my Sky box didnt record it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Anjobe


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Anyone know if a tv channel is showing a full replay of the this mornings game, my Sky box didnt record it

    19:15 on eir sport 1, and again at 01:30.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,805 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Ah crap, dont have Eir sport. Who was the British broadcaster- BBC or ITV?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    I am enjoying reading the NZ Herald rugby articles. They really are nuts when it comes to rugby.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    That was Kieran Read's last ever game for NZ. Completely forgot that over the shock of the result.

    Hoping it doesn't go unnoticed that he's one of the all time great players. Double World Cup winner, 7 time Rugby Championship winner, 6 time World Rugby team of the year member and 2013 World Player of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Quick question lads does the time change tonight mean the Wales game starts at 9 or 8 a.m Irish time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,168 ✭✭✭Digifriendly


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Quick question lads does the time change tonight mean the Wales game starts at 9 or 8 a.m Irish time?

    9.00am Irish/UK time. EPG takes into account clock change. An hour more lie in tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I will tell you tomorrow. Want to see the manner in which Wales win. If they grind out a brutal bloody win, I would probably want Eng to win it out.

    In other words, the team that plays the nicer rugby.
    Don't think Wales will win. They haven't been great in the RWC and it's asking a lot for them to suddenly produce a good performance, especially with the injuries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Don't think Wales will win. They haven't been great in the RWC and it's asking a lot for them to suddenly produce a good performance, especially with the injuries.

    Yeh, they are certainly up against it. But Wales have been before so you'd never know.
    The other poster was right, an Eng v SA final would be one to savour!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭shrapnel222


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Ah crap, dont have Eir sport. Who was the British broadcaster- BBC or ITV?

    All games have been on itv. No idea if they replay them though (maybe on itv 4?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Clegg wrote: »
    That was Kieran Read's last ever game for NZ. Completely forgot that over the shock of the result.

    Hoping it doesn't go unnoticed that he's one of the all time great players. Double World Cup winner, 7 time Rugby Championship winner, 6 time World Rugby team of the year member and 2013 World Player of the year.

    Don't NZ still have the pleasure of playing for 3rd position next weekend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    schmoo2k wrote: »
    Don't NZ still have the pleasure of playing for 3rd position next weekend?

    You're right at that. Completely that there was a third place playoff.

    I wonder if they'll use it as a chance to give fringe members a game. Or maybe they'll use it as a farewell to departing players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    schmoo2k wrote: »
    Don't NZ still have the pleasure of playing for 3rd position next weekend?

    That’s a total humiliation for them. They are either the WC winners or a total failure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    Under Jones England have blown hot and cold at times this year.

    When England turned Ireland over in the six nations in Dublin, there was a lot of talk immediately after of handing England the 6N now, Grand Slam champions in waiting, England are back, another winning streak begins etc.

    Then they lost to Wales out of the blue. Completely unexpected (at least according to the press). I thought they were nailed on for the 6N too myself.

    Thrash Ireland in the warmups but then lost to Wales away.

    They always have a massive match under Eddie Jones where all parts are working and everything goes plan and look unbeatable. But they do have some really bad games, quite frequently as well.

    England are outstanding on their day where nobody can live with them, but they're not invincible.

    England might win the WC, but don't surprised to see a performance that looks nothing like they're QF and SF performances and they lose.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    I am enjoying reading the NZ Herald rugby articles. They really are nuts when it comes to rugby.

    And they have no problems with criticism of their team. In Ireland you make any constructive criticism and there is war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Under Jones England have blown hot and cold at times this year.

    When England turned Ireland over in the six nations in Dublin, there was a lot of talk immediately after of handing England the 6N now, Grand Slam champions in waiting, England are back, another winning streak begins etc.

    Then they lost to Wales out of the blue. Completely unexpected (at least according to the press). I thought they were nailed on for the 6N too myself.

    Thrash Ireland in the warmups but then lost to Wales away.

    They always have a massive match under Eddie Jones where all parts are working and everything goes plan and look unbeatable. But they do have some really bad games, quite frequently as well.

    England are outstanding on their day where nobody can live with them, but they're not invincible.

    England might win the WC, but don't surprised to see a performance that looks nothing like they're QF and SF performances and they lose.

    They also only drew with Scotland in that 6N.

    Consistency could be an issue for them too.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    They also only drew with Scotland in that 6N.

    Consistency could be an issue for them too.

    I cant see it. England have been the best team in the world cup so far from what i have seen and we will all soon see that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Anjobe


    All games have been on itv. No idea if they replay them though (maybe on itv 4?)

    Highlights at 12:35 (ITV1)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭shrapnel222


    Anjobe wrote: »
    Highlights at 12:35 (ITV1)

    I think he's looking for the full game though. Widely available elsewhere, but can't talk about those.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Amprodude wrote: »
    I cant see it. England have been the best team in the world cup so far from what i have seen and we will all soon see that.

    Rugby never ceases to amaze me. We'll just have to wait and see. England massive favorites now though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Amprodude wrote: »
    I cant see it. England have been the best team in the world cup so far from what i have seen and we will all soon see that.

    They might not have been consistent in the past but they have been in this tournament. Maybe if its against SA they could bottle it but they must be hot favourites now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    MadYaker wrote: »
    They might not have been consistent in the past but they have been in this tournament. Maybe if its against SA they could bottle it but they must be hot favourites now.

    Only saw the 2nd half but what I really noticed was how aggressive England were at the breakdown, and how effective their blitz was


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    MadYaker wrote: »
    They might not have been consistent in the past but they have been in this tournament. Maybe if its against SA they could bottle it but they must be hot favourites now.

    The bookies don't have them 'hot' favourites.

    England - 5/7
    South Africa - 2/1
    Wales - 9/1

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/rugby-union/market/1.121622052

    I suspect England's odds will drift slightly if SA are victories and shorten if Wales are. They're favourites sure but not peak Usain Bolt 100m kinda favourites (who used to be as short as 1/10)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    I was amongst the most ardent of forecasters on here for England beating NZ, but I'm less certain about their prospects in the final, especially against SA.

    I think some people are getting carried away with England, but we've been in this position before with England under Eddie Jones. Not saying they wont win but, the way people are talking as if it would be a huge shock if the Boks did them in the final is bit much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭penybont exile


    Under Jones England have blown hot and cold at times this year.

    When England turned Ireland over in the six nations in Dublin, there was a lot of talk immediately after of handing England the 6N now, Grand Slam champions in waiting, England are back, another winning streak begins etc.

    Then they lost to Wales out of the blue. Completely unexpected (at least according to the press). I thought they were nailed on for the 6N too myself.

    Thrash Ireland in the warmups but then lost to Wales away.

    They always have a massive match under Eddie Jones where all parts are working and everything goes plan and look unbeatable. But they do have some really bad games, quite frequently as well.

    England are outstanding on their day where nobody can live with them, but they're not invincible.

    England might win the WC, but don't surprised to see a performance that looks nothing like they're QF and SF performances and they lose.

    It's called plan X ..... we just need to deliver on plan X-1 tomorrow.....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    C’Mon Wales .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    I could see Wales troubling England more than South Africa.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    Gamb!t wrote: »
    I could see Wales troubling England more than South Africa.
    They better trouble South Africa first !;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Gamb!t wrote: »
    I could see Wales troubling England more than South Africa.

    Wales are being depleted, if they get by SA it will be at the biggest cost they have paid.

    They'd be easy pickings for England then.


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