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39 people found dead in trailer in UK

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  • #782
    KingBobby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭KingBobby


    downcow wrote: »
    Is there a report somewhere that they were undressed? Yes Hypothermia can cause people to take of clothes, because it causes confusion and irrational behaviour, but it would be highly unusual if everyone took off clothes. I would have thought most would have wrapped up and huddled up if they were hypothermic

    The crappy red top papers reported it https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10215863/essex-lorry-deaths-news-found-naked-bloody-handprints/


  • #783
    Calypso Realm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭Calypso Realm


    Latest is now a 22-year-old has been arrested at Dublin Port. Wanted by Essex Police.

    Looks like the other driver they were seeking. Arrived on a ferry from France. Truck he was driving impounded.


  • #784
    No Bills
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭No Bills


    Calypso Realm wrote: »
    Latest is now a 22-year-old has been arrested at Dublin Port. Wanted by Essex Police.
    Returning from France on a ferry. Seems to be the truck driver who was driving the truck and trailer while it was on the Continent. Perhaps the person who delivered the trailer to Zeebrugge.


  • #785
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,108 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    No Bills wrote: »
    Returning from France on a ferry. Seems to be the truck driver who was driving the truck and trailer while it was on the Continent. Perhaps the person who delivered the trailer to Zeebrugge.


    Noose is tightening.


  • #786
    Calypso Realm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭Calypso Realm


    Apparently he's due to appear in the Criminal Court @ 4.30 and was arrested as a result of an outstanding court warrant for an offence committed.

    We'll hear more, I guess.


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  • #787
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Jesus, I'm beginning to wonder if your man Mo was actually involved in this now, or was he "just a young buck, hungry for the road" as quite a few of my trucker pals described him.

    I wonder if 25 year old Mo and the 22 year old fella arrested know each other?

    I have my fingers crossed, not just for him - but for his family and friends that he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, because at 25, and the press exposure he's gotten already, if he's involved in this, his life is as good as finished.


  • #788
    1641
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭1641


    I would think the authorities would have been looking for information from the company/individuals referred to in this IT report. It would seem relevant background material:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/gps-data-reveals-trajectory-of-refrigerated-trailer-in-which-migrants-died-1.4063110


  • #789
    1641
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭1641


    Mo Robinson charged with manslaughter and other offences. (Sky -breaking news)


  • #790
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    So then the man from "Monaghan" has been charged after 4 days, it was that or release him so hopefully they charged him with good back up evidence rather than to keep him in the system and maybe talking.


  • #791
    lola85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Jesus, I'm beginning to wonder if your man Mo was actually involved in this now, or was he "just a young buck, hungry for the road" as quite a few of my trucker pals described him.

    I wonder if 25 year old Mo and the 22 year old fella arrested know each other?

    I have my fingers crossed, not just for him - but for his family and friends that he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, because at 25, and the press exposure he's gotten already, if he's involved in this, his life is as good as finished.

    And his missus is pregnant with twins.

    More lives destroyed.


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  • #792
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Jesus, I'm beginning to wonder if your man Mo was actually involved in this now, or was he "just a young buck, hungry for the road" as quite a few of my trucker pals described him.

    I wonder if 25 year old Mo and the 22 year old fella arrested know each other?

    I have my fingers crossed, not just for him - but for his family and friends that he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, because at 25, and the press exposure he's gotten already, if he's involved in this, his life is as good as finished.

    Charged to appear at Chelmsford magistrates court on Monday next.


  • #793
    Boggles
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    Multiple charges, they appear to think he was in the thick of it.

    He has obviously come clean and blown the whole thing apart.


  • #794
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Why Monagahan in quotes - it was known from start that he was from Portadown

    Sure but I was referring back to "derrymcorry" he got a bee in his bonnet about the drivers origins and then got banned.


  • #795
    cmac2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,774 ✭✭✭cmac2009


    Boggles wrote: »
    Multiple charges, they appear to think he was in the thick of it.

    He has obviously come clean and blown the whole thing apart.

    Interested to see if we hear from his sister, hopefully she can clear all this up with an informative Facebook post.


  • #796
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Sure but I was referring back to "derrymcorry" he got a bee in his bonnet about the drivers origins and then got banned.


    This is the address they used charging him
    Mr Robinson, of Laurel Drive, Craigavon, Northern Ireland, is due before Chelmsford Magistrates' Court on Monday.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-50196265


  • #797
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Sorry if this has been answered before . How would the container ( I don’t know the official word ) get off the ferry to be picked up by Mo Robinson on the dock ?
    Or is it normal for one truck to load it on and another truck to load it off ?


  • #798
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,046 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    antix80 wrote: »
    Why is it just the lorry driver being arrested?

    Because that's the guy that was caught.


  • #799
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been answered before . How would the container ( I don’t know the official word ) get off the ferry to be picked up by Mo Robinson on the dock ?
    Or is it normal for one truck to load it on and another truck to load it off ?

    Unaccompanied trailers are shipped all the time


  • #800
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,599 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Why Monagahan in quotes - it was known from start that he was from Portadown

    He is "from" MarketHill, if these details are important.


  • #801
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Unaccompanied trailers are shipped all the time

    Thank you


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  • #802
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been answered before . How would the container ( I don’t know the official word ) get off the ferry to be picked up by Mo Robinson on the dock ?
    Or is it normal for one truck to load it on and another truck to load it off ?

    Shunters working for the docks

    Not trucks, they're used predominantly for "shunting" trailers about the docks or on to and off fairies. yt-4.jpg


  • #803
    1641
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭1641


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been answered before .
    Or is it normal for one truck to load it on and another truck to load it off ?

    Yes, perfectly normal , it seems.


  • #804
    IRE60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭IRE60


    Yes, the charge is odd but I'm no expert on the ins and outs of that. The fact that he has been charged suggested that he had knowledge of the cargo - perhaps not the conditions. As to the links with the provos - not sure. The Times had an article yesterday where they went to his home town to interview the natives. In the middle of the town is a banner 'we support soldier F' - not exactly GAA country!


  • #805
    vicwatson
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    1641 wrote: »
    Yes, perfectly normal , it seems.

    Totally perfectly normal


  • #806
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Would be fairly sickened now if i was one of those donors to the gofundmes....


  • #807
    lola85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    Probably asked before but why pay 30,000 instead of getting on a plane and staying illegally?


  • #808
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Would be fairly sickened now if i was one of those donors to the gofundmes....

    Don't tell me there was a GoFundMe set up for the driver?


  • #809
    theguzman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭theguzman


    lola85 wrote: »
    Probably asked before but why pay 30,000 instead of getting on a plane and staying illegally?

    Yes, because families with this sort of money would get the tourist visa, I really doubt the figure is that high, people with that sort of money don't just immigrate illegally in that manner. I would think that what the traffickers make is less or through some sort of bonded slavery.


  • #810
    armaghlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    IRE60 wrote: »
    Yes, the charge is odd but I'm no expert on the ins and outs of that. The fact that he has been charged suggested that he had knowledge of the cargo - perhaps not the conditions. As to the links with the provos - not sure. The Times had an article yesterday where they went to his home town to interview the natives. In the middle of the town is a banner 'we support soldier F' - not exactly GAA country!
    He’s from Laurelvale outside Portadown which is staunchly unionist/loyalist territory. That said there is a WhatsApp going around saying that the company that leased the trailer is owned by a prominent south Armagh businessman. Whether there is any link though remains to be seen.


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  • #811
    gerbilgranny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭gerbilgranny


    There was a thread on the Facebook page of a man who described himself as Mo Robinson's best friend, started because this man was sickened at the press reports. Lots of people posted support on there.

    The man is no longer listed as a friend of Mo Robinson on Facebook.


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