39 people found dead in trailer in UK

LoughNeagh2017 · 25-10-2019 02:31AM

It is a bit unnerving to think that all the people upset by this story are the same virtue signallers who buy products produced by low paid and overworked Asian people, it's a clown world really, you couldn't make it up.

wonski · 25-10-2019 02:40AM

LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »

It is a bit unnerving to think that all the people upset by this story are the same virtue signallers who buy products produced by low paid and overworked Asian people, it's a clown world really, you couldn't make it up.

Believe me I can't even ****ing imagine how terrible it was for the people in the trailer. Yet I can't ****ing understand how you connected it to the fact that I, and many others, use products made in China???

What makes you so special, no products made in Asia in your house or you just don't feel an empathy towards the victims?

B.A._Baracus · 25-10-2019 07:52AM

HiGlo wrote: »

According to reports I read it was the driver himself who called 999 when he discovered the bodies.
Also read he actually passed out at first.

Such a horrible situation. Feel bad for the driver having his name and photo all over the place. (unless of course he was actually involved!)

Yeah.
Be messed up to discover that. Tell you what tho that's some phone call to make.

Wanderer78 · 25-10-2019 07:57AM

I do suspect the driver is innocent in this case, and may in fact have been setup by others who knew what was going on. I guess we ll know in time

blackwhite · 25-10-2019 08:45AM

knipex wrote: »

BUT is inter EU shipping (Ireland - France, Ireland - UK, UK - Belgium) classed as international shipping ?

Isn't the EU a customs free single market ?

Any transportation between two countries is considered international transport - whether intra-EU or between non-EU countries.

The single customs market relates to trade tariffs, common safety standards and regulations etc. It doesn't mean that IMO regulations are dropped

Boggles · 25-10-2019 08:51AM

LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »

It is a bit unnerving to think that all the people upset by this story are the same virtue signallers who buy products produced by low paid and overworked Asian people, it's a clown world really, you couldn't make it up.

The device or at least part of the device you used to type that post was made in Asia by low paid workers.

Now the right thing to do would be take that device and flush it down the toilet, but the button or flush for the toilet was more than likely made in Asia.

You are stuck, I feel for you.

FrancieBrady · 25-10-2019 08:56AM

Seems that they are tracking a criminal network with links to dissident elements here.

Did I hear correctly on the news that they now believe they flew from China to somewhere in Europe first?

Utter Consternation · 25-10-2019 09:13AM

Boggles wrote: »

The device or at least part of the device you used to type that post was made in Asia by low paid workers.

Now the right thing to do would be take that device and flush it down the toilet, but the button or flush for the toilet was more than likely made in Asia.

You are stuck, I feel for you.

Or stick it up their hole, the part where they do all their talking out of.

ohnonotgmail · 25-10-2019 09:14AM

Boggles wrote: »

The device or at least part of the device you used to type that post was made in Asia by low paid workers.

Now the right thing to do would be take that device and flush it down the toilet, but the button or flush for the toilet was more than likely made in Asia.

You are stuck, I feel for you.

the nuance you missed was

all the people upset by this story

Clearly our friend is not included in that cohort.

the_pen_turner · 25-10-2019 10:41AM

I think he is either innocent or manipulated into helping inappropriately small way.

If he was fully involved I don't see why he would call the police. Nobody knows they were there so the whole thing could have been cover up easily enough
Bury the people and burn the trailer . Who would do DNA on the trailer. It would simply be an insurance claim

Sadly no one would be looking for them in the uk.

El Weirdo · 25-10-2019 10:42AM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

I think he is either innocent or manipulated into helping inappropriately small way.

If he was fully involved I don't see why he would call the police. Nobody knows they were there so the whole thing could have been cover up easily enough
Bury the people and burn the trailer . Who would do DNA on the trailer. It would simply be an insurance claim

Sadly no one would be looking for them in the uk.

Bury 39 bodies? Really.

25-10-2019 10:49AM

PostWoke wrote: »

Do we know any more apart from 'Chinese' at the moment? Really hope they weren't Uighur, fleeing Chinese camps only to die like this anyway...

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't their first time crossing the channel.

Graces7 · 25-10-2019 11:11AM

PostWoke wrote: »

Do we know any more apart from 'Chinese' at the moment? Really hope they weren't Uighur, fleeing Chinese camps only to die like this anyway...

I read an article only this week on the gulags in China; makes terrifying reading indeed and it does seem very likely that these were doing just that.

Header was " A million people are jailed in Chinese gulags!" by a woman who managed to escape .. conditions unspeakable

As you say, doubly tragic

the_pen_turner · 25-10-2019 11:14AM

El Weirdo wrote: »

Bury 39 bodies? Really.

Why not. The sick people involved in this kind of thing arnt going to care about the poor people involved.

There are people out there that would do anything

Look at Patrick quirk.

25-10-2019 11:25AM

LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »

It is a bit unnerving to think that all the people upset by this story are the same virtue signallers who buy products produced by low paid and overworked Asian people, it's a clown world really, you couldn't make it up.

That is one weird f*&ked up outlook you have.

skallywag · 25-10-2019 11:26AM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

Why not. The sick people involved in this kind of thing arnt going to care about the poor people involved.

How is someone going to covertly bury 39 bodies? Logistically challenging to say the least ....

the_pen_turner · 25-10-2019 11:47AM

skallywag wrote: »

How is someone going to covertly bury 39 bodies? Logistically challenging to say the least ....

Very easily. It's a big fridge. Park it up somewhere really remote and leave it going. Find a field well hidden controlled by one of your fellow gang/ criminals/scumbags and hire a digger and dig a hole.
Go really deep and put the bodies in, fill it back in , concrete yard over it .
Nobody is looking for these people in the uk so would never suspect anything

McMurphy · 25-10-2019 11:55AM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

Very easily. It's a big fridge. Park it up somewhere really remote and leave it going. Find a field well hidden controlled by one of your fellow gang/ criminals/scumbags and hire a digger and dig a hole.
Go really deep and put the bodies in, fill it back in , concrete yard over it .
Nobody is looking for these people in the uk so would never suspect anything

A great future in fictional writing beckons.

B.A._Baracus · 25-10-2019 11:58AM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

Very easily. It's a big fridge. Park it up somewhere really remote and leave it going. Find a field well hidden controlled by one of your fellow gang/ criminals/scumbags and hire a digger and dig a hole.
Go really deep and put the bodies in, fill it back in , concrete yard over it .
Nobody is looking for these people in the uk so would never suspect anything

I know this is wrong to be even talking about such a thing but dude... that's just fantasy :pac:
It would work in the movies not real life.

the_pen_turner · 25-10-2019 12:06PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I know this is wrong to be even talking about such a thing but dude... that's just fantasy :pac:
It would work in the movies not real life.

I don't like talking like this either

I don't see why it would not work
There are holes dug all over rural Ireland every day .
I don't see why uk would be different

I'm not saying an average Joe could do it bit well organised gang easily could.

Your not giving any reason why it couldn't be done

theguzman · 25-10-2019 12:14PM

The young lad looks totally innocent, he loved being a truck driver and had it plastered all over facebook, he even had his truck pimped out too. Not the typical persona of a criminal to me.

Tacitus Kilgore · 25-10-2019 12:17PM

theguzman wrote: »

The young lad looks totally innocent, he loved being a truck driver and had it plastered all over facebook, he even had his truck pimped out too. Not the typical persona of a criminal to me.

I know plenty of criminals who own pimped out trucks, it is not at all uncommon to send one off to Holland to get a €20k interior fitted, for cash...

How he looks is irrelevant, let the law decide (Although this craic of naming and shaming as soon as one is arrested is awful, the UK is a complete and utter shithole)

Lady Spangles · 25-10-2019 12:26PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

I don't like talking like this either

I don't see why it would not work
There are holes dug all over rural Ireland every day .
I don't see why uk would be different

I'm not saying an average Joe could do it bit well organised gang easily could.

Your not giving any reason why it couldn't be done

These people do have friends and families. Some are bound to know where they were going and start wondering why they haven't heard from them in a while.

Some would have family members/friends already in the UK and they will be waiting for them to arrive. It is a myth that if an immigrant in the UK has family in another country, they get automatic asylum. So they too would have to stowaway.

Now, the hole big enough to bury 39 bodies. England isn't really like Ireland, there's actually very few huge open spaces where the bodies could be buried. It's all farmland or public parkland. It's a very built up country with a large population. Ground disturbance is very easy to spot. A mass grave would be detected pretty quickly, actually. In fact, you probably wouldn't get away with doing this in rural Ireland, either.

splinter65 · 25-10-2019 12:28PM

Can’t get these poor people out of my head. BBC this morning says that official China are reporting it on official TV but omitting to say that the dead are Chinese.
Obviously official China will never admit that China is not perfect nor will they admit that Chinese people would choose to live anywhere other than China.
Millions of people in rural remote China are living in poverty. These people smuggling gangs apparently show them “The Darling Buds of May” and suchlike and tell them this is what it’s like in UK. Beautiful scenery and good well paid jobs for everyone.
They don’t tell them that you will probably drown while collecting whelks on Morecombe Bay or in a lorry in Essex.

Calypso Realm · 25-10-2019 12:35PM

BBC just now announced two more people (no further details) have been arrested in connection with this tragedy.

celt262 · 25-10-2019 12:35PM

Calypso Realm wrote: »

BBC just now announced two more people (no further details) have been arrested in connection with this tragedy.

Ok let us know when you have more info.

Thanks

Calypso Realm · 25-10-2019 12:39PM

Sky new just now said a man and woman in Warrington, Cheshire.Both late thirties. Lorry driver still in custody.

4068ac1elhodqr · 25-10-2019 12:41PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Can’t get these poor people out of my head. BBC this morning says that official China are reporting it on official TV but omitting to say that the dead are Chinese.
Obviously official China will never admit that China is not perfect nor will they admit that Chinese people would choose to live anywhere other than China.
Millions of people in rural remote China are living in poverty. These people smuggling gangs apparently show them “The Darling Buds of May” and suchlike and tell them this is what it’s like in UK. Beautiful scenery and good well paid jobs for everyone.
They don’t tell them that you will probably drown while collecting whelks on Morecombe Bay or in a lorry in Essex.

The Chinese state (with a booming economy of their own) should show them episodes of Eastenders insted, to highlight the dreary cockney lifestyle that may await. E.g. Hanging around a launderette gossiping, or stewing the afternoon away in that old q'vic pub - likely void of sunlight, and whiffing of of fags and wee.

There has been another similar story emmerging this week of East African teenagers slowly and steadily appearing around the harbour in Belfast, likely also coming out of some random port containers.

UK officials said on the news this morning they only check 1 out of every 300 or 400 containers, as there is so many. The many dozens of smaller ports in the SE coast are un/under-manned.

partyguinness · 25-10-2019 12:44PM

I am not a HGV driver but as a matter interest, when a cab driver picks up a sealed refrigerated container do they open it to check contents or does it remain sealed and they simply drive it off no questions asked?

dd973 · 25-10-2019 12:46PM

Won't be the last time such a thing happens, the UK, especially the big English cities and the South East are uniquely vulnerable to mass migration, no language, bureaucracy or culture to get past or navigate as you'd have to in Denmark or Austria. Other nations, even us, to a certain extent play by the rules. Over there is a bottomless pit of toilets like Hounslow, Luton, Slough, Hayes, Wembley, Handsworth, Leicester, Salford, Brent, Tower Hamlets, Bradford et al to vanish into and live in the shadow economy that Blighty Plc admonishes on one hand and actively encourages on the other, cheap labour, uber drivers, etc.

The composition of the UK nation state as well is a factor, most countries are ethnocentric in the sense of having to be from there or naturalised there in order to hold it's passport and call yourself Irish, Dutch, German, Portuguese, etc, 'British' or 'UK' is a nothing no-mark nationality, why shouldn't an Englishman for example have an English passport and a Scot, a Scottish one? British Nationalists abhor such a notion because of the hornet's nest it would open up.

39 people found dead in trailer in UK

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