LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Eric Cartman · 13-10-2019 04:15PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/range-rover-sport/22910364

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not a range rover sport but a 4.2 supercharged , its 2006 so has more reliable electrics and the more modern navigation system, could easily be haggled into barge price and its a crewcab on the logbook so probably the cheapest tax 4.2 supercharged petrol car available.

ToxicPaddy · 14-10-2019 10:22AM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/range-rover-hse-high-spec-tax-nct/23223451

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Speak of the devil, a very honest advert for a 2003 RR with an NCT for another 6 months. I'm sure it could be negotiated to Luxobarge prices.

Makes a refreshing pleasant change to see such honesty in an advert for a car tbh

Eric Cartman · 14-10-2019 10:30AM

ToxicPaddy wrote: »

Always loved these. Knew someone who had a Range Rover, beautiful beast but there was always something wrong with it, which was usually accompanied by a rather hefty repair bill so it always scared me away from buying one.

Still would if I ever get the bank balance in better shape. Just bought a new house so that may be a few years away yet

Theyre really not as bad as everyone thinks, the air springs last 75k miles on the front, 120k miles on the back , buy decent ones and dont leave it broken so the compressor doesnt burn itself out and thats most of your issue there sorted.

Using an LR specialist makes a huge odds to the reliability, the diesels have some turbo issues but to be fair there was a massive overhaul by ford for the 2006 midel year and after that the reliability is massively improved.

Ive had my 2010MY for 3.5 years , its been on the road 98% of the time ive owned it , turbos have been the only big bill (5k) but aside from that its hands down the best car ive ever owned.

ToxicPaddy · 14-10-2019 10:45AM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Theyre really not as bad as everyone thinks, the air springs last 75k miles on the front, 120k miles on the back , buy decent ones and dont leave it broken so the compressor doesnt burn itself out and thats most of your issue there sorted.

Using an LR specialist makes a huge odds to the reliability, the diesels have some turbo issues but to be fair there was a massive overhaul by ford for the 2006 midel year and after that the reliability is massively improved.

Ive had my 2010MY for 3.5 years , its been on the road 98% of the time ive owned it , turbos have been the only big bill (5k) but aside from that its hands down the best car ive ever owned.

Owning one is definitely on my bucket list, but the thoughts of a €5k bill atm is putting shivers down my spine.

Give it a couple of years when the shock of a large mortgage doing unspeakable things to my bank account each month disappears and I'll rethink getting one

KB22 · 15-10-2019 01:15PM

A byeline on another site :- "Land Rover making mechanic's out of owner's for 50 year's" No comment! ( from a Range Rover owner)

KevRossi · 15-10-2019 01:24PM

pah wrote: »

I'm driving a 13 year old Lexus that cost me 2.5k tax is €1k p.a. averages 11.5l/100km and I fúcking love it

Have an 06 RX 400h, paid €2800 and got it registered as a crew cab, so €330 tax. Does everything from 7.9l/100 Km to 12l/100Km, but driven normally it's usually just below 10l/100Km. Went to sell it a couple of times, but it's too good to get rid of it.

KB22 wrote: »

A byeline on another site :- "Land Rover making mechanic's out of owner's for 50 year's" No comment! ( from a Range Rover owner)

The old Landies had the motto - "they never die, but they're always sick", after having had 2 of them I can only agree.

CharlieCroker · 15-10-2019 03:29PM

Toyota in Oz had an advert years ago:

"If you want to drive into the bush, buy a Landrover. if you want to drive back out again, buy a landcruiser"

m17 · 16-10-2019 12:17PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2010-mercedes-benz-s-class-lwb-top-spec/23154223

2010 mercedes benz s class 298,000miles nct 01/2020 €6,500

tossy · 16-10-2019 12:32PM

CharlieCroker wrote: »

Toyota in Oz had an advert years ago:

"If you want to drive into the bush, buy a Landrover. if you want to drive back out again, buy a landcruiser"

Similar saying in Morocco he who drives into the desert in a landrover drivers back out in a landcruiser

KevRossi · 16-10-2019 02:01PM

m17 wrote: »

2010 mercedes benz s class 298,000miles nct 01/2020 €6,500

10 year old S-Klasse, 300,000 miles and the steering wheel trim is falling to bits. That's an embarrassment for Mercedes.

Great price for the car though, especially if the FSH checks out.

Truckermal · 23-10-2019 05:21PM

Just a quick note about Barges which most of ye know....

Forums are brilliant so join and post on them all as they provide some fantastic information on DIY fixes and other useful information.

The reason for posting this I purchased a very cheap LS earlier in the year and driving it home it became apparent the suspension was knackered. Anyways took it to my mechanic who diagnosed a kaput shock that costs 900 quid.

Anyways phoned a buddy who is not a mechanic but very mechanically minded and asked could these shocks be refurbished, upon inspection all the little sticks (Yes their is a proper name) were seized with the front left being completely broken. Their is one of these on each wheel and they adjust the height of the suspension.

Anyways we fixed all them but the front left was still down but not as bad!!!!! I bit the bullet and took it to Macroom motors who told me i needed 4 new shocks at a price of €4500...
I knew this was wrong so went back to the drawing board and changed the part of the levelling sensor (stick) from the driver's side and wow the front left was perfect and the front right was down...

I went back to my buddy again and he made up a longer piece of threaded bar and it levelled out perfectly to my amazement.

Anyways car went for NCT yesterday and the tester said the suspension is perfect plus it drives like a dream now! So be careful with what the so called expert's tell you and do lots of research!

Oops didn't realise I went on for so long..

darragh o meara · 23-10-2019 09:33PM

Truckermal wrote: »

Just a quick note about Barges which most of ye know....

Forums are brilliant so join and post on them all as they provide some fantastic information on DIY fixes and other useful information.

The reason for posting this I purchased a very cheap LS earlier in the year and driving it home it became apparent the suspension was knackered. Anyways took it to my mechanic who diagnosed a kaput shock that costs 900 quid.

Anyways phoned a buddy who is not a mechanic but very mechanically minded and asked could these shocks be refurbished, upon inspection all the little sticks (Yes their is a proper name) were seized with the front left being completely broken. Their is one of these on each wheel and they adjust the height of the suspension.

Anyways we fixed all them but the front left was still down but not as bad!!!!! I bit the bullet and took it to Macroom motors who told me i needed 4 new shocks at a price of €4500...
I knew this was wrong so went back to the drawing board and changed the part of the levelling sensor (stick) from the driver's side and wow the front left was perfect and the front right was down...

I went back to my buddy again and he made up a longer piece of threaded bar and it levelled out perfectly to my amazement.

Anyways car went for NCT yesterday and the tester said the suspension is perfect plus it drives like a dream now! So be careful with what the so called expert's tell you and do lots of research!

Oops didn't realise I went on for so long..

Some mechanics wouldn’t be used to dealing with complex self levelling suspension and would be quick to replace a part than to try fix what’s there, that to me is the difference between a good mechanic and a bad one. Years ago mechanics were trained to fix the broken part as best they could and it was rare the part was discarded unless completely knackered whereas nowadays it’s a remove and replace methodology that is thought.

Luxobarges can be an expensive item to run but having a good mechanic definitely helps a lot and can save you a fortune.

Eric Cartman · 23-10-2019 09:38PM

darragh o meara wrote: »

Some mechanics wouldn’t be used to dealing with complex self levelling suspension and would be quick to replace a part than to try fix what’s there, that to me is the difference between a good mechanic and a bad one. Years ago mechanics were trained to fix the broken part as best they could and it was rare the part was discarded unless completely knackered whereas nowadays it’s a remove and replace methodology that is thought.

Luxobarges can be an expensive item to run but having a good mechanic definitely helps a lot and can save you a fortune.

absolutely +1 , I think this is where a lot of 'reliability concerns' come in. Cars with complex systems should be brought to specialists or highly recommended mechanics. The amount of times ive seen people complain about the cost of repairing high end cars and it was the mechanic either being a glorified parts fitter or not knowing that certain problems don't present as they usually would because of the specific car

e.g. - A range rover's suspension system needs to be put into alignment mode to do a wheel alignment or else it will eat tyres and shorten the life of the air springs, luckily I can do this myself and let a tyre shop get on with their job but the amount of other owners ive talked to who were getting 20k out of a set of tyres and im getting 60...

ToxicPaddy · 23-10-2019 09:41PM

darragh o meara wrote: »

Some mechanics wouldn’t be used to dealing with complex self levelling suspension and would be quick to replace a part than to try fix what’s there, that to me is the difference between a good mechanic and a bad one. Years ago mechanics were trained to fix the broken part as best they could and it was rare the part was discarded unless completely knackered whereas nowadays it’s a remove and replace methodology that is thought.

Luxobarges can be an expensive item to run but having a good mechanic definitely helps a lot and can save you a fortune.

100% agree here.

Had a mondeo years ago and there were a few problems with the rear lights. Took to a local dealership who quoted me over €1k as the interior would have to be lifted out to replace the wiring loom as it could be a damaged cable.

Friend recommended a local independent mechanic who used to work for a main dealers for years before going out on his own.

He swapped the switch and noticed some issues with the connection on one of the wires going into the switch connection, fixed that in 5 mins and lights were working perfectly after that, charged me €70 including the cost of a new switch.

I told him what the dealership said, he laughed his a*s off calling them a bunch of muppets

Idbatterim · 24-10-2019 09:16AM

A big considerartion when buying my s500 was having a very very good mechanic , who’s last resort is to throw new parts at it. Car has cost me virtually nothing in maintenance after two years of ownership...

I probably wouldn’t have bought an older s500 without that mechanic. The motor tax and fuel is enough to get done on, couldn’t be breaking the bank being gouged on labour and parts ...

marcos_94 · 24-10-2019 09:41AM

Idbatterim wrote: »

A big considerartion when buying my s500 was having a very very good mechanic , who’s last resort is to throw new parts at it. Car has cost me virtually nothing in maintenance after two years of ownership...

I probably wouldn’t have bought an older s500 without that mechanic. The motor tax and fuel is enough to get done on, couldn’t be breaking the bank being gouged on labour and parts ...

Who do you use if you dont mind saying?

Idbatterim · 24-10-2019 01:30PM

Pm sent marcos

Interslice · 28-10-2019 09:09AM

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/2003-bmw-735i-nct-08-20-1-owner/23336969

This looks decent.

Eric Cartman · 28-10-2019 12:50PM

Interslice wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/2003-bmw-735i-nct-08-20-1-owner/23336969

This looks decent.

spec isnt fantastic and why are these going up in price, a year or 2 ago you could get early model petrol e65s for just shy of 2 grand.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 28-10-2019 01:48PM

Interslice wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/2003-bmw-735i-nct-08-20-1-owner/23336969

This looks decent.

It’s very expensive for a pre facelift.

Very very expensive.

tom1ie · 28-10-2019 02:03PM

Hi guys, not sure if I should’ve started a new thread for this so mods feel free to move.
I’m in the market for a petrol car, sub 5k, preferably a smaller car as it’s really only for driving around Dublin with trips of approx 7k the days my wife isn’t cycling.
She would prefer a smaller car, but not tiny. Eg an Astra would be great a Corsa would do.
I have a 2ltr insignia diesel for the longer trips around the country. We are trying to keep the bills low, so low road tax would be great, but if we could get a reliable low cost car with a not as low road tax bill that wouldn’t be too bad.
The insignia is a 2011 Sri so has lots of extras so if possible this car should have a nice spec level.
Any ideas?
Thanks for all your help guys.

Eric Cartman · 28-10-2019 02:14PM

tom1ie wrote: »

Hi guys, not sure if I should’ve started a new thread for this so mods feel free to move.
I’m in the market for a petrol car, sub 5k, preferably a smaller car as it’s really only for driving around Dublin with trips of approx 7k the days my wife isn’t cycling.
She would prefer a smaller car, but not tiny. Eg an Astra would be great a Corsa would do.
I have a 2ltr insignia diesel for the longer trips around the country. We are trying to keep the bills low, so low road tax would be great, but if we could get a reliable low cost car with a not as low road tax bill that wouldn’t be too bad.
The insignia is a 2011 Sri so has lots of extras so if possible this car should have a nice spec level.
Any ideas?
Thanks for all your help guys.

you couldnt have picked a wronger thread :pac:, have a look for one called bangernomics

tom1ie · 28-10-2019 02:32PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

you couldnt have picked a wronger thread :pac:, have a look for one called bangernomics

Lol! Sorry.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 28-10-2019 02:55PM

tom1ie wrote: »

Hi guys, not sure if I should’ve started a new thread for this so mods feel free to move.
I’m in the market for a petrol car, sub 5k, preferably a smaller car as it’s really only for driving around Dublin with trips of approx 7k the days my wife isn’t cycling.
She would prefer a smaller car, but not tiny. Eg an Astra would be great a Corsa would do.
I have a 2ltr insignia diesel for the longer trips around the country. We are trying to keep the bills low, so low road tax would be great, but if we could get a reliable low cost car with a not as low road tax bill that wouldn’t be too bad.
The insignia is a 2011 Sri so has lots of extras so if possible this car should have a nice spec level.
Any ideas?
Thanks for all your help guys.

I’d be getting rid of the diesel insignia before I’d invest in another car.

tom1ie · 28-10-2019 03:49PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

I’d be getting rid of the diesel insignia before I’d invest in another car.

I’ve had it for 4 years without any problems and have got the oil seal replaced about 2 months ago on the advice of a mechanic friend of mine. It’s a lovley car with a nice Sri spec and hasn’t given me any bother tbh, but I know they’ve a bad rep.

CoBo55 · 28-10-2019 04:21PM

tom1ie wrote: »

I’ve had it for 4 years without any problems and have got the oil seal replaced about 2 months ago on the advice of a mechanic friend of mine. It’s a lovley car with a nice Sri spec and hasn’t given me any bother tbh, but I know they’ve a bad rep.

You've a great car once the seal is done. Every third engine oil change get the gearbox oil done too and you'll have a car for years. Nice to see someone heeding good advice.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 28-10-2019 05:25PM

tom1ie wrote: »

I’ve had it for 4 years without any problems and have got the oil seal replaced about 2 months ago on the advice of a mechanic friend of mine. It’s a lovley car with a nice Sri spec and hasn’t given me any bother tbh, but I know they’ve a bad rep.

Yeah fair play to you! I normally shudder at the thoughts of those insignias but yours sounds like it will go and go.

Duke O Smiley · 28-10-2019 06:01PM

Interslice wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/2003-bmw-735i-nct-08-20-1-owner/23336969

This looks decent.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

spec isnt fantastic and why are these going up in price, a year or 2 ago you could get early model petrol e65s for just shy of 2 grand.

Hunky Monster wrote: »

It’s very expensive for a pre facelift.

Very very expensive.

I used to see that car very regularly on my evening commute home down the quays. It always drew my attention for being an early(ish) example in an unusual colour, and it was always very clean.

It is quite expensive, and there are loads of other, much better buys for the same money, but a low mileage, clean, 1 owner, Irish-from-new example of one of these is as rare as a rare thing. Most of them by now have fallen into the hands of neglectful owners.

I'd say in a few years time it will be worth a nice few quid, but as it stands its not worth near the current asking (IMO).

Big Nasty · 28-10-2019 06:55PM

Maybe it's just me but I can't see the E65 ever having the long term appeal of the E38.

CharlieCroker · 28-10-2019 06:59PM

Big Nasty wrote: »

Maybe it's just me but I can't see the E65 ever having the long term appeal of the E38.

True but I don't think the E38 really became loved by most until the E65 was released!

LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

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