Turkish forces have started bombing and attacking Kurdish people in Syria

1. First fact is, 19% of Turkey's population is Kurdish - check CIA's publications. cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/tu.html

- Why would Turkey move its army to do ethnic cleansing in an unknown territory in Syria? Why bother if the main intention is some sort of massacre?

2. Second fact is, PKK is recognised as a terrorist organisation by EU. You can find it in EU commission talks and documents.

And it's affiliated by PYD, YPG confirmed by US - listen to this senate hearing which is 2 mins long: youtube.com/watch?v=w-g8RVtYBM4.
If you are still not convinced, check their websites / online presence and find out what they are up to. There is literally no separation between them.

- Why does EU and US back a terrorist organisation in the first place?
(see PKK leader's speech here edition.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9902/22/kurds.02/ and his confession)

3. It's impossible to share the whole list of attacks here, but PKK has been organising terror attacks for the past 40 years and it's responsible for thousands of deaths, including teachers, nurses, doctors, engineers. They actively targeted people in many different cities including Istanbul.
bbc.com/news/world-europe-38276794 is one of many.

- How long do you think Turkish people can stand this horror? Especially, when EU and US have been supporting this whole organisation for decades. It's Turkey's right as a state (not as Erdogan or some other megalomaniac) to keep its country safe & secure when there is no one else to help the country.

4. Turkey should do everything to keep the ISIS jails / prisoners under control. Those monsters should be left where they used to be. Turkey was attacked by the same terrorist organisation (and had hundreds of casualties) multiple times in the past. See a list of them here: independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/a-timeline-of-bomb-attacks-in-turkey-between-2015-2016-a6879841.html

- Why would Turkey go there to free ISIS in the first place? So that it can get attacked in the future once again?

5. There is a clear separation between Kurds vs PKK/other terrorist organisations Turkish army is fighting against. The war is against these terrorist groups who have caused terror and instability in Turkey & northern Iraq / Syria. Turkey was pushed aside by EU / US and was left to do this work alone.

6. Erdogan is loosing his support in the country - he lost all of the major cities in the last elections to the opposition and people are waking up. While the operation to northern Syria is a necessity for country's security, people argue that the same operation will guarantee him a win in the next election (snap election is on paper) - Population in Turkey will usually follow the Turkish army but not the politicians. Do not be surprised if you see people who hate Erdogan / current government but support the army's operation.

crashadder wrote: »

YPG(aka PKK) you prefer seeing in power have killed more than 30.000 people in Turkey. (google if you want) some of them were babies women teenagers... I understand you dont care since it wasnt you who got hurt but Turkey has every right to put an end to this and thats exactly what they are doing.

Turkish governments since it formed a republic have carried out several massacres on the Kurdish people.
For almost a century after the Kurds rose against the Turks, who were trying to eradicate Kurdish culture, tens of thousands of Kurds were killed, including women, children and the elderly.
See Turkification of Kurds, Dersim Massacre and Zilan Massacre to see how Kurds have been treated by Turkey.

Be interesting to see if any Russian forces are in the mix. I doubt it though, although they may simply provide logistics.

I doubt Syrian forces would engage Turkish forces but rather sieze territory from under fire Kurdish forces and create a new territorial boundary

igCorcaigh wrote: »

They may even have made a deal with Turkey?

This is a distinct possibility too ,kurds loose everything to the turks and putinassad

igCorcaigh wrote: »

If kurds make a deal with Syrian government forces to occupy a buffer zone, perhaps Turkey might agree to that.

Unfortunately the Assad regime boyed by putin an co will see this as an opportunity to get revenge on the Kurds for taking their lands , turkey wants the Kurds eliminated once and for all this isn't about humanitarian efforts ,
The Kurds were the closest they have come to their own state ,if erdokan gets his way he will push millions of displaced people on to the Kurds territory backed by various pro Turkish militias.

Reports from various sources suggest all US military forces have left northern Syria after Turkish artillery strikes close to their bases

We can lend the kurds a hand by boycotting turkish products. Here we buy a lot of Beko stuff. Beko is owned by a turkish company named Arcelik (pron Arslik, no kidding), whose majority owner is a turk named Koc (also not kidding).
Every time we buy a turkish product we contribute to the turkish arsenal that is killing kurds and freeing the turkish funded Daesh from prisons.

I wouldn't even bother arguing with the Turkish bots who have popped up on this site. Turkey and their jihadi mates are trying to set the scene for a massive program of ethnic cleansing in northern Syria, we should do everything we can to oppose them.