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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • #2952
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,099 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Forbes should be seconded to TG4 for 6 months to see how that is run on a fraction of the cost.

    TBF I imagine the copyright on Little House on the Prairie has probably expired.


  • #2953
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Boggles wrote: »
    TBF I imagine the copyright on Little House on the Prairie has probably expired.

    TBF I am sure Orange is the new Black, Catch 22, Mr Robot & perpetual grace ltd etc have not


  • #2954
    retalivity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,596 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Forbes should be seconded to TG4 for 6 months to see how that is run on a fraction of the cost.

    Imagine the expenses she could claim for that - taxis up amd down to galway, overnight stays at the G or gelnlo abbey...

    SOLD!


  • #2955
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,307 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    ToBeFrank123 wrote: »
    Here's an example of highly skilled broadcasters.
    Liveline:
    Joe: "Good afternoon caller, can I have your point please?"

    Repeated ad nausiam - paid 300k a year for this?

    Marian:
    "Well what do you think will happen with Brexit?"

    And similar.

    do joe and marian bring in high amounts of revenue in return for what they get paid?
    if so, then anything else is irrelevant, if not then do get rid.
    both of them, marian especially, are decent broadcasters in my opinion.
    ToBeFrank123 wrote: »
    A 5 year old could present most of these shows, particularly with a team of producers, editors and researchers feeding questions in their ear as happens with RTE.



    a 5 year old couldn't present anything, never mind shows on a radio station. if they could, they would be presenting. they aren't, at least not on rte, or any station in this country to my knowledge.
    ToBeFrank123 wrote: »
    Highly paid mediocre broadcasters. Cut these salaries substantially and then see what you are left with. We know from experience the more money you give RTE, the more it is wasted on higher salaries for mediocre broadcasters.

    only mediocre broadcasters in your opinion. your opinion doesn't make them mediocre, as mine doesn't make the ones i believe to be as such, mediocre in reality. they may very well be, but if they do what they are expected to do by their employer and bring in what is required, then they are successful.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #2956
    ToBeFrank123
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭ToBeFrank123


    Boggles wrote: »
    'Fake news' really is the war cry of the clinical moron!

    It use to mean simply false news or lies, now it means any news that the clinical morons don't agree with or don't find favorable to whatever cock eyed narrative they are trying to peddle.

    The lot of them should be fired into the sun.

    Absolute cretins.

    We can call it false news, exagerated news, inaccurate news, anything you like. Its news that lacks credibility and RTE were guilty of it big time with Lorenzo. They got it wrong and made a mountain out of a molehill.

    When a news broadcaster makes a mistake they deserve to be called out on it, rather than patted on the back as you would.

    RTE were sued for libel at least once in the past. False news there too. I'm sure there are other examples which you'd prefer we ignored. Oh wait I just thought of one, the Frontline presidental debates tweet of 2011.


  • #2957
    ToBeFrank123
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭ToBeFrank123


    end of the road wrote: »
    Here's an example of highly skilled broadcasters.
    Liveline:
    Joe: "Good afternoon caller, can I have your point please?"

    Repeated ad nausiam - paid 300k a year for this?

    Marian:
    "Well what do you think will happen with Brexit?"

    And similar.

    do joe and marian bring in high amounts of revenue in return for what they get paid?
    if so, then anything else is irrelevant, if not then do get rid.
    both of them, marian especially, are decent broadcasters in my opinion.
    ToBeFrank123 wrote: »
    A 5 year old could present most of these shows, particularly with a team of producers, editors and researchers feeding questions in their ear as happens with RTE.

    a 5 year old couldn't present anything, never mind shows on a radio station. if they could, they would be presenting. they aren't, at least not on rte, or any station in this country to my knowledge.



    only mediocre broadcasters in your opinion. your opinion doesn't make them mediocre, as mine doesn't make the ones i believe to be as such, mediocre in reality. they may very well be, but if they do what they are expected to do by their employer and bring in what is required, then they are successful.

    Do you think a guy whose on air for under 90 minutes a day, takes most of the summer off and whose main skill is saying "good afternoon caller, can I have your point?" deserves 300k a year??

    Because I don't. And he's fairly typical of RTE.

    As for bringing in ad revenue, there's large teams behind most of these programs and they need to be paid too. So I'd query how much they take in. Of course RTE will use the time honoured excuse of commercial sensitivity to hide behind.


  • #2958
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,307 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Forbes should be seconded to TG4 for 6 months to see how that is run on a fraction of the cost.


    she wouldn't need to go to tg4 to see how it is ran on a fraction of the cost, i can even tell you that.
    it is 1 channel.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #2959
    ToBeFrank123
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭ToBeFrank123


    end of the road wrote: »
    she wouldn't need to go to tg4 to see how it is ran on a fraction of the cost, i can even tell you that.
    it is 1 channel.

    Still a great channel and full of Irish produced content. And their coverage of Irish sport is far superior to the main RTE channels.


  • #2960
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,307 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    ToBeFrank123 wrote: »
    We can call it false news, exagerated news, inaccurate news, anything you like. Its news that lacks credibility and RTE were guilty of it big time with Lorenzo. They got it wrong and made a mountain out of a molehill.

    When a news broadcaster makes a mistake they deserve to be called out on it, rather than patted on the back as you would.

    RTE were sued for libel at least once in the past. False news there too. I'm sure there are other examples which you'd prefer we ignored. Oh wait I just thought of one, the Frontline presidental debates tweet of 2011.

    rte were not guilty of fake or false news with their reporting of the storm.
    there was no intent to deceive the audience, nor did they deliberately broadcast inaccurate information.
    ergo, no fake or false news, no news that lacked credibility. simply news that didn't happen as expected.
    ToBeFrank123 wrote: »
    Do you think a guy whose on air for under 90 minutes a day, takes most of the summer off and whose main skill is saying "good afternoon caller, can I have your point?" deserves 300k a year??

    Because I don't. And he's fairly typical of RTE.

    yes i believe he must be worth it, as if he wasn't, he wouldn't be getting it.
    ToBeFrank123 wrote: »
    As for bringing in ad revenue, there's large teams behind most of these programs and they need to be paid too. So I'd query how much they take in. Of course RTE will use the time honoured excuse of commercial sensitivity to hide behind.

    because it is commercially sensitive given rte is expected to operate as a commercial entity. you can blame the state for that one.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #2961
    Jeff2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,245 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    I did lol yesterday l when a TV news presenter saying Brendan.C..... Was playing the part of Trump in a film instead of Brendan Gleeson.

    It looked planed.:)


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  • #2962
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    End of the Road one thing I would not do is defend the wages of RTÉ personalities.

    When RTÉ continues to trot out that they only spend 1% on there top earners and say this is a drop in the ocean.

    And then tell the media that they do not plan to cut funding to children’s content when in reality they all ready had by 25% and then the following year cut it again by 50% bringing it down to just 1% of their total costs.

    Indeed RTÉ did reduce the top earners fees by 30% but this was down to the departure of Pat Kenny and the death of Jerry Ryan.

    Then for some unknown reason they decided to hire Ray D’Arcy, a risk and while he increased his audience in his radio time slot his TV show lost audiences from The Saturday Night Show, in effect loss far more that he brought in.

    So no they don’t deserve those wages.


  • #2963
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,099 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

    RTE were sued for libel at least once in the past. False news there too. I'm sure there are other examples which you'd prefer we ignored. Oh wait I just thought of one, the Frontline presidental debates tweet of 2011.

    You'll struggle to find a media outlet that hasn't been successfully sued for libel.

    That doesn't automatically equate to maliciously making up to stories.

    Now you have established you are not a fan of nuance so that may go over your head.

    But the fact remains, knuckle dragging simpletons who constantly scream "Fake News" are an absolute scourge and should be immediately ridiculed and then ignored.


  • #2964
    ToBeFrank123
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭ToBeFrank123


    Boggles wrote: »
    You'll struggle to find a media outlet that hasn't been successfully sued for libel.

    That doesn't automatically equate to maliciously making up to stories.

    Now you have established you are not a fan of nuance so that may go over your head.

    But the fact remains, knuckle dragging simpletons who constantly scream "Fake News" are an absolute scourge and should be immediately ridiculed and then ignored.

    You can call people what you like.
    The storm was exaggerated by RTE beyond all recognition. False, fake, misleading, exaggerated, wrong.

    Maliciously make up stories? I think the priest and Sean Gallagher who sued them would beg to differ. Both won substantial damages, paid for out of the licence fee no doubt. Made up and fabricated and a horrendous lack of due diligence on the part of producers.

    Like many RTE defenders, you ignore what you want and focus on what you want such as someone using the term fake, and when losing an argument you resort to throwing around insults.


  • #2965
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,099 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ToBeFrank123 wrote: »
    You can call people what you like.
    The storm was exaggerated by RTE beyond all recognition. False, fake, misleading, exaggerated, wrong.

    Maliciously make up stories? I think the priest and Sean Gallagher who sued them would beg to differ. Both won substantial damages, paid for out of the licence fee no doubt. Made up and fabricated and a horrendous lack of due diligence on the part of producers.

    Like many RTE defenders, you ignore what you want and focus on what you want such as someone using the term fake, and when losing an argument you resort to throwing around insults.

    Like I said, tunnel vision.

    Pointless trying to explain anything to you.

    As you were lad.


  • #2966
    elperello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,821 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    I did lol yesterday l when a TV news presenter saying Brendan.C..... Was playing the part of Trump in a film instead of Brendan Gleeson.

    It looked planed.:)

    I always thought that presenter's style was a bit wooden :)


  • #2967
    SJW Lover
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 322 ✭✭SJW Lover


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    'you people' :)
    So does spinning yarns and being condescending.

    I bet you can't point out any 'fake news' specifically on RTE.
    Are we agreed 'fake news' is purposefully broadcasting lies or faked content?

    Just because the truth hurts, doesn't make it fake. Sometimes inaccurate and open to correction, for sure. Try watching less American conservative outlets.


    As i said, you poor poor boy. Well done on your retort to an argument that wasnt made.


  • #2968
    ToBeFrank123
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭ToBeFrank123


    Boggles wrote: »
    Like I said, tunnel vision.

    Pointless trying to explain anything to you.

    As you were lad.

    What the hell is up with you and the use of Lad? Its beyond bizarre.

    You haven't explained anything except trot out the latest pro RTE propaganda.

    As you were too.


  • #2969
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    SJW Lover wrote: »
    As i said, you poor poor boy. Well done on your retort to an argument that wasnt made.

    So you can't give an example? Understood.
    Your level of discourse leads me to just put you in the whole 'libtard', 'woke', 'SJW', 'fake news' using bucket. I hope your are young, then you might mature. Right now you are wallowing in americanised right wing propaganda whether you are aware of it or not.


  • #2970
    SJW Lover
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 322 ✭✭SJW Lover


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    So you can't give an example? Understood.
    Your level of discourse leads me to just put you in the whole 'libtard', 'woke', 'SJW', 'fake news' using bucket. I hope your are young, then you might mature. Right now you are wallowing in americanised right wing propaganda whether you are aware of it or not.


    Putting more words in my mouth i see. Words that i never used once. Pretty pathetic. And you expecting me to engage on your self-made argument = lolz


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  • #2971
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    SJW Lover wrote: »
    Putting more words in my mouth i see. Words that i never used once. Pretty pathetic. And you expecting me to engage on your self-made argument = lolz

    'Lolz' indeed :rolleyes:


  • #2972
    Beta Ray Bill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    I bet you can't point out any 'fake news' specifically on RTE.
    Are we agreed 'fake news' is purposefully broadcasting lies or faked content?

    As I mentioned in the 15th post on this thread, RTE have been caught altering the sequence in which clips are played relative to how those clips were recorded chronologically speaking.
    IE: who threw the first punch

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=106906190&postcount=15


  • #2973
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Beta Ray Bill wrote: »
    As I mentioned in the 15th post on this thread, RTE have been caught altering the sequence in which clips are played relative to how those clips were recorded chronologically speaking.
    IE: who threw the first punch

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=106906190&postcount=15

    I am no fan of RTE and all media show a bias but no credible mainstream outlet knowingly tells complete lies. They might be wrong and retract but if they were spinning falsehoods on purpose that would be different.

    RTE is an amateur outlet. They are like the owners son. Incompetence and not being fully skilled is overlooked because daddy, (the tax payer) will cover their arse any way.


  • #2974
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,396 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    I am no fan of RTE and all media show a bias but no credible mainstream outlet knowingly tells complete lies. They might be wrong and retract but if they were spinning falsehoods on purpose that would be different.

    RTE is an amateur outlet. They are like the owners son. Incompetence and not being fully skilled is overlooked because daddy, (the tax payer) will cover their arse any way.

    Yep... I mean, the station that produces 'Pulling with my parents' and promotes it as prime time programming... deserves to go broke.

    There was a time when shows like PwmP would be filler-just some trash program to fill a half hour...at like 'the witching hour' or Midnight for the layperson, now they're just tossed into the schedule at prime nights on TV.
    Probably when people are still dealing with hangovers.
    They're cheap to make-but RTE will hail them as 'Irish made' and 'jobs created'.

    They don't even release their viewership numbers anymore-they're probably pitiful.


  • #2975
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,099 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    Yep... I mean, the station that produces 'Pulling with my parents' and promotes it as prime time programming... deserves to go broke.

    There was a time when shows like PwmP would be filler-just some trash program to fill a half hour...at like 'the witching hour' or Midnight for the layperson, now they're just tossed into the schedule at prime nights on TV.
    Probably when people are still dealing with hangovers.
    They're cheap to make-but RTE will hail them as 'Irish made' and 'jobs created'.

    They don't even release their viewership numbers anymore-they're probably pitiful.

    That is more of a reflection on what audiences wants TBF.

    ITV are making a profit with that sort of shíte, BBC show their fair share of it.

    Bunch of Z list celebrities in a jungle, simpletons on an island, "famous people" cooking is where the money is unfortunately.

    Googlebox, a bunch people watching a bunch of people watching television.

    That's the game at the moment.


  • #2976
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Beta Ray Bill wrote: »
    As I mentioned in the 15th post on this thread, RTE have been caught altering the sequence in which clips are played relative to how those clips were recorded chronologically speaking.
    IE: who threw the first punch

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=106906190&postcount=15


    What are you on about ? Spit it out please.


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  • #2977
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,841 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Boggles wrote: »
    That is more of a reflection on what audiences wants TBF.

    ITV are making a profit with that sort of shíte, BBC show their fair share of it.

    Bunch of Z list celebrities in a jungle, simpletons on an island, "famous people" cooking is where the money is unfortunately.

    Googlebox, a bunch people watching a bunch of people watching television.

    That's the game at the moment.

    Couldn't agree more. Although, if you ignore the people watching the programmes Gogglebox is a good summary of the week's TV. It can be handy to use to decide what to stream next.


  • #2978
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    McGaggs wrote: »
    Couldn't agree more. Although, if you ignore the people watching the programmes Gogglebox is a good summary of the week's TV. It can be handy to use to decide what to stream next.

    Maybe the UK version the Irish version they struggle to talk about any TV.


  • #2979
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,396 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Boggles wrote: »
    That is more of a reflection on what audiences wants TBF.

    ITV are making a profit with that sort of shíte, BBC show their fair share of it.

    Bunch of Z list celebrities in a jungle, simpletons on an island, "famous people" cooking is where the money is unfortunately.

    Googlebox, a bunch people watching a bunch of people watching television.

    That's the game at the moment.

    Do they though? I mean, really? It's on RTE 2, the channel that repeats Fr Ted, The Rotunda, and many other repeats.
    If they want shows like 'pulling with my parents' they'll tune in to any other one but an Irish one.
    Love Island is popular-because it's hot climates, hot weather, and hot people (bland, but good looking).

    The IRish equivalent is bland, cookie cutter people, one of whom is using the show to launch a podcast. (TV now interviewed two of the people on the show).


  • #2980
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Oh look, Marty is on RTE 1 again this time with Bernard O'Shea. Low and behold, they're away in New York.

    Gas men in fairness.


  • #2981
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Oh look, Marty is on RTE 1 again this time with Bernard O'Shea. Low and behold, they're away in New York.

    Gas men in fairness.

    'Tis a repeat Ted.


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  • #2982
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,216 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Elmo wrote: »
    'Tis a repeat Ted.


    What I can't understand is whoy RTE bankroll US first run shows and put them on the graveyard shift yet put repeats at prime time, completely burning cash on Donnybrook lawns.


  • #2983
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,099 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    Do they though? I mean, really? It's on RTE 2, the channel that repeats Fr Ted, The Rotunda, and many other repeats.
    If they want shows like 'pulling with my parents' they'll tune in to any other one but an Irish one.
    Love Island is popular-because it's hot climates, hot weather, and hot people (bland, but good looking).

    The IRish equivalent is bland, cookie cutter people, one of whom is using the show to launch a podcast. (TV now interviewed two of the people on the show).

    It doesn't really matter what channel it is on. If it attracts an audience it has done it's job.

    TV unfortunately is polluted with all these types of silly shows, they don't do it to píss me or you off, they do it because it's what a certain audience like.

    But like I keep saying 95% of all media is terrible, the 5% is down to personal taste.


  • #2984
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Boggles wrote: »
    It doesn't really matter what channel it is on. If it attracts an audience it has done it's job.

    TV unfortunately is polluted with all these types of silly shows, they don't do it to píss me or you off, they do it because it's what a certain audience like.

    But like I keep saying 95% of all media is terrible, the 5% is down to personal taste.

    The problem is that RTÉ2 has no real focus. It's schedule is all over the place, these shows sit in the middle of little else, RTÉ have a fascination with dating and weddings on RTÉ2.

    RTÉ2 has a 6 - 7% share of the audience when it has sports, its highest rated programming, when it doesn't have sport it can have adudiences between 4 and 5%, these rating would be alright if in some way RTÉ2 provided a public service but much like it sister radio station 2fm it is filled with fluff.


  • #2985
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,410 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Expect to see another couple of nonsense headline stories over coming weeks, to take the UK populations mind off Brexit.

    The fact that this is front page news on a lot of the British media shows how dumb society has now become.

    And shame on any Irish media for even reporting it.


  • #2986
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,099 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Elmo wrote: »
    The problem is that RTÉ2 has no real focus. It's schedule is all over the place, these shows sit in the middle of little else, RTÉ have a fascination with dating and weddings on RTÉ2.

    RTÉ2 has a 6 - 7% share of the audience when it has sports, its highest rated programming, when it doesn't have sport it can have adudiences between 4 and 5%, these rating would be alright if in some way RTÉ2 provided a public service but much like it sister radio station 2fm it is filled with fluff.

    It's the same with ITV2 or E4 more or whatever they are called.

    Fluff cheap TV based at a certain demographic.

    If they become popular enough they get moved to main channels.

    Virgin are the same.

    It's a reflection of our times, BBC news barely makes it into the top 30 of watched programs in the UK.

    That said I grew up in a time where the quality of TV was completely rubbish.

    Quality wise, TV is certainly better now. There is just way more of it so it gets diluted down.


  • #2987
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,099 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Expect to see another couple of nonsense headline stories over coming weeks, to take the UK populations mind off Brexit.

    The fact that this is front page news on a lot of the British media shows how dumb society has now become.

    And shame on any Irish media for even reporting it.

    What are you talking about?


  • #2988
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Boggles wrote: »
    It's the same with ITV2 or E4 more or whatever they are called.

    Fluff cheap TV based at a certain demographic.

    If they become popular enough they get moved to main channels.

    Virgin are the same.

    It's a reflection of our times, BBC news barely makes it into the top 30 of watched programs in the UK.

    That said I grew up in a time where the quality of TV was completely rubbish.

    Quality wise, TV is certainly better now. There is just way more of it so it gets diluted down.

    There is a massive and there should be a massive difference between E4, More4, ITV2 and any other extra channel to that of RTÉ2. RTÉ2 is more likely to be described as BBC2 or Channel4. It receives a portion of the licence fee to produce programming.

    RTÉ2 actually has less programming and yet it quality is that of quanity.

    If RTÉ2 was producing quality programming along with First Dates, Dating with my Parents, Don't Tell The Bride, I'd have no issue with the size of the audience that they are getting, but RTÉ2 audience levels are so low that it is even hard to justify Sport on the channel.
    It doesn't really matter what channel it is on. If it attracts an audience it has done it's job.

    They are not doing their job.


  • #2989
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    10 The Rotunda 21:31 Thu 1.7 63
    19 My Big Day: Home Or Away? 21:31 Mon 1.3 47

    You get far more of My Big Day type programming on 2 than you do The Rotunda, and while yes people are moving from TV these figures are more like the kind you'd get for an repeat of

    2 Tipping Point Mon/Tue/Sun 17:00 Avg 1.50 54.1

    on VMT TWO.

    BTW the only other non-sports show above The Rotunda in RTÉ2's top shows was Home and Away and it happen to have a unusually "high" rating of 75,000.

    All ratings are adults. 15+


  • #2990
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Monday night 9.30 on RTE One. A new programme to attract younger viewers "Dating with my parents".

    I have to say, there is more chance of me eating my parents than there is of me watching it.


  • #2991
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    What I can't understand is whoy RTE bankroll US first run shows and put them on the graveyard shift yet put repeats at prime time, completely burning cash on Donnybrook lawns.

    Thats a constant annoyance of mine. Years ago, the West Wing started at 9.30 on a Monday night after the news. Grand. But it slowly moved later and later. By season 4 it was up to 11pm. Meaning too late for most people interested in it to actually watch it.

    Tonight at 9.30 is the late late :rolleyes: and on RTE2 Jaws.

    I think someone in Donnybrook said "We're going to need a bigger repeat".

    Terrific movie, yes, but who hasn't seen it a dozen times already. Will it keep me away from Graham Norton or QI on BBC? No.


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  • #2992
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,099 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Deleted User wrote: »

    Terrific movie, yes, but who hasn't seen it a dozen times already. Will it keep me away from Graham Norton or QI on BBC? No.

    What would?


  • #2993
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Boggles wrote: »
    What would?

    Trying something different? Utilising there €25million euro worth of imported programming.


  • #2994
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,099 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Elmo wrote: »
    Trying something different? Utilising there €25million euro worth of imported programming.

    Again though, Ireland are in this pretty unique situation to have a neighbor that speaks English beaming 20 billion worth of content, the majority of it free.

    Can you compete with 25 milllion or 300 million?

    Personally I think Norton is gone fstale, Celeb telling "witty" story while trying to hock whatever shíté they are selling that week as Graham belts out the double entendres and drinks "wine".

    That said it is a popular show which has many Irish fans, simply put whatever is on they won't watch it if it clashes with Norton.


  • #2995
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Boggles wrote: »
    Again though, Ireland are in this pretty unique situation to have a neighbor that speaks English beaming 20 billion worth of content, the majority of it free.

    Can you compete with 25 milllion or 300 million?

    Personally I think Norton is gone fstale, Celeb telling "witty" story while trying to hock whatever shíté they are selling that week as Graham belts out the double entendres and drinks "wine".

    That said it is a popular show which has many Irish fans, simply put whatever is on they won't watch it if it clashes with Norton.

    Yeah, I suppose you can always just not try to do something different and go well you know there is no way we can compete at all. I think that's a strategy that might work.

    And yes the last good interview GN did was with Kevin Costner about 5 years ago.

    Also we are not that unique Austria, Belgium, Switzerland and other smaller European French and German speaking nations would be in a similar situation.


  • #2996
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,099 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Elmo wrote: »
    Yeah, I suppose you can always just not try to do something different and go well you know there is no way we can compete at all. I think that's a strategy that might work.

    I don't really see any of the other channels trying to compete with the Norton slot TBH.

    Between the Late Late Show, Norton and Jaws.

    I'd probably pick jaws.


  • #2997
    ShamNNspace
    Registered Users Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Expect to see another couple of nonsense headline stories over coming weeks, to take the UK populations mind off Brexit.

    The fact that this is front page news on a lot of the British media shows how dumb society has now become.

    And shame on any Irish media for even reporting it.
    You OK hun???as they do be saying over on fb.... Is it the great Rooney /vardy spat that has us all glued to our screens you refer to


  • #2998
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,410 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Yip, thanks hun.

    Posted in wrong thread as you've gathered.


  • #2999
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Boggles wrote: »
    I don't really see any of the other channels trying to compete with the Norton slot TBH.

    Between the Late Late Show, Norton and Jaws.

    I'd probably pick jaws.

    So would I TBH, but that's not the point, across the board RTÉ aren't utilizing what they have, just because TLLS and GN are on the other side doesn't mean that you don't try to provide alternative content (which in turn trickles down to On Demand viewing), instead RTÉ have chosen a do nothing approach, and TLLS and GN are both extreme examples of this there are many others.

    Indeed UTV Ireland, TV3 and now VMTV one have all tried to air GN at the same time as the BBC only to move it to the next night.


  • #3000
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,099 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Elmo wrote: »
    Also we are not that unique Austria, Belgium, Switzerland and other smaller European French and German speaking nations would be in a similar situation.

    A lot of those channels are FTV not FTA like here.


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  • #3001
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,711 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    And tonight on the Late Late Show we will have €495,000 per year Ryan Tubridy interviewing the Speaker of the House of Commons John Bercow who gets paid £156,000 per year.


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