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Not one Irish Bar in "World's 50 Best Bars"!!

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  • 11-10-2019 1:47am
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    Dowend
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭


    The UK leads the 2019 list of 50 Best Bars with 10 bars, while the US has seven. Not one bar in Ireland appears on the list:

    http://www.worlds50bestbars.com

    Has anyone been to any of the bars in the list? How do they compare to Ireland's best bars?


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    NotToScale
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    You usually have to enter these things to be listed.


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    Dj Stiggie
    Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Dj Stiggie


    I haven't been to any on the Top 100 list this year, but I do follow a few of them on Facebook, and have read plenty of articles about a few on the list. Bars like the American Bar at The Savoy are legendary, and the amount of work that goes into providing that level of service consistently year after year is immense. Dan Meehan's Please Don't Tell book is a very good insight into what's needed to make it into that list. PDT used to feature on the list annually.

    I've never been to a bar in Ireland that provides that kind of quality and service. And you don't get onto the list for pouring perfect pints of stout. (Look how far the Dead Rabbit has fallen)


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    Dj Stiggie
    Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Dj Stiggie


    NotToScale wrote: »
    You usually have to enter these things to be listed.

    Not in this case. There's a large panel of anonymous industry professionals that vote, which is why the list is highly regarded.


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    Atlantic Dawn
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    Not been in any of them, would be interested opinions of anyone who was.


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    irish_goat
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    List should be called "World's Best Cocktail Bars". It's also a certain type of cocktail bar. There's a handful of these on Dawson Street but it's not a particularly common establishment to find in Ireland.


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    BeerNut
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    Pure notions.

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    mayordenis
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    I couldn't get a lambic in any of these kips.


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    Creamy Goodness
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    Considering the list of sponsors and that I'd not willingly seek any one of them out I'm guessing this is a list of bars that stock these drinks.

    I have been in one of them though Dead Rabbit in NYC


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    RasTa
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    This yoke opened up in Manchester recently.

    dsc-1336-largejpg.jpg


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    L1011
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    I'm not sure I could be bothered going to a bar that got in to that listing.


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    lee_baby_simms
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    Can't believe the Cabra House isn't on that list. Shameful omission.


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    Fian
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    Dead Rabbit in New York is at number 22, owned by some lads from Belfast.

    An Irish bar for the modern age, Dead Rabbit is, conversely, a classic too. Now in its seventh year, the crowds still flock, feasting on the best Guinness in town and the venue’s famous Irish Coffee. If owners Jack McGarry and Sean Muldoon’s intentions were to recreate Irish pub hospitality in New York, they were triumphant, but Dead Rabbit can go up the gears too. Climb the stairs to the Parlour and you’ll see why bar manager Jillian Vose is one of the most respected cocktail makers in the USA. The drinks lists are always vast, but each cocktail is a masterclass in the harmonising of ingredients. The bar’s famous comic-book menus are something to behold and have evolved further this year, taking the Rabbit character into a darker realm. So this is a bar but also a brand, with extensions now running to merchandise, whiskey, action figures and also a film. Since last year, the bar’s knocked through to next door, doubling its size.


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    Draco
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    I was in the Dead Rabbit a couple of years ago. It was mid week (a Tuesday or Wednesday I think) and it was jam packed. It didn't come across as anything particularly special at the time. My comment on entering to my Canadian friend was "why have you brought me to a provo bar?" - lots of pictures of shinners on the walls.


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    machaseh
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    Seems to be mainly geared towards cocktails. I myself rarely ever order cocktails because I find them to dear, 12 quid for a fancy glass with fruits, ice, a little bit of liquor and some juice or soda, nah. I'd rather order two pints for that. I also find myself drinking sweet drinks (cocktails but also for example cider) waaaaay faster than a pint of beer so I get leathered too quickly and end up bankrupt.

    The only cocktail I tend to order is a gin and tonic which I suppose you could hardly call a cocktail anyway.


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    2ndcoming
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    If I was to nominate one for a notionsy list like that it would be The Horseshoe Bar in the Shelbourne.


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    partyguinness
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    There is a difference between a 'bar' and a 'pub'.


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    NotToScale
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    I’m highly skeptical about some of those best in the world lists. If you go back through that one you’ll also see it’s very dominated by certain cities and countries, which to me immediately says they’re not looking very far.

    To actually comb the entire globe and find the best bars would be an absolutely enormous task, involving vast amounts of footwork and research.


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    Pinch Flat
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    Sleeve tattoo and beard optional


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    is_that_so
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    Hmm, I order a pint at the bar, the barperson produces it in a polite, prompt and friendly fashion and I'm a happy punter as I continue to lap up the general buzz in said bar. Why does everything have to be an "experience"?


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    Lewis_Benson
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    partyguinness wrote: »
    There is a difference between a 'bar' and a 'pub'.

    This, I like pubs.


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    colm_mcm
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    RasTa wrote: »
    This yoke opened up in Manchester recently.

    dsc-1336-largejpg.jpg

    Is that a dry house?


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    Apollinaris
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    Why am I not surprised? Today I called into Cork’s biggest/best/superset self-proclaimed whiskey bar to enquire about one of their own bottling. The barman didn’t have a clue what I was on about. On the way out I spotted the bottle but I couldn’t even bother anymore to even ask again. Pathetic and a true representation why there is no Irish bars in the top whatever. Incompetent staff is a big turn off.


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    tedpan
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    The Connaught Bar in London has an Irish twang about it...


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    TimeToShine
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    It's an American list, they see bars and bartending differently from we do.

    Irish people value a quiet pub with a good pint and an inconspicuous bartender.
    Americans value a talkative flashy bartender doing tricks and flicks making cocktails and lighting stuff on fire.

    Have been to a few on that list in London, NYC and one in Mexico City... none would beat the local on a December evening coming up to Christmas.


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    PowerToWait
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    TimeToShine wrote: »
    It's an American list, they see bars and bartending differently from we do.

    Irish people value a quiet pub with a good pint and an inconspicuous bartender.
    Americans value a talkative flashy bartender doing tricks and flicks making cocktails and lighting stuff on fire.

    Have been to a few on that list in London, NYC and one in Mexico City... none would beat the local on a December evening coming up to Christmas.

    Imagine if some people from both countries liked both experiences, depending on mood and inclination. Almost like they were nations of individual people.


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    Losty Dublin
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    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    Can't believe the Cabra House isn't on that list. Shameful omission.

    Booted out for making their iced tea with Tetley's, so I heard.


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    Purple Mountain
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    All is not lost, don't we have Pub Spy every Sunday highlighting the creme de lá creme of Irish boozers?

    To thine own self be true



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    L1011
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    Purple Mountain wrote: »
    All is not lost, don't we have Pub Spy every Sunday highlighting the creme de lá creme of Irish boozers?

    On a notionally six point scale (0-5) that actually has four points (try find a 0 or a 5 - they do exist, admittedly) so not really giving much granular data on them!


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    Lesalare
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    Ireland had pubs.

    The rest of the world has bars.

    Most of the funky/overly designed bars Dublin now has - aka the ones owned by the likes of Press Up group etc.. are just copies of other global city's existing bars. NYC/London/Sydney etc etc.


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    Clutterluck
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    Some of the best bars in the world I've been in were absolute ****holes.

    A lot of bars in Ireland have the music dialled up too loud, they should be on the list of 50 worst.


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