Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2019/2020

murpho999 wrote: »

When you see how poor the team and squad was then it makes all the more remarkable to see what Klopp has built in a short time and reached three European finals. Incredible.

But Rodgers laid the foundations for Klopp

Milner joined because we told him he wouldn't have to play as a winger.

I wanted rid of him long before this however this was the beginning for a lot of fans and Stoke was the end.

Think that Stoke defender pulled his hamstring for that goal.

I defender Rodgers a lot when he was put manager, but that run from Stoke to Everton, he had me lost. He really did have to go. The Villa FA cup semi final was some joke too from him. Trying to be too smart. Constantly changing formations during the game. Can played CB, RB, RWB and CM in the course of the second half alone, and Sterling moved all over the place too.

Gbear wrote: »

What's the record?

If we managed to get to 12 we'd all but deserve to win the league (we'd be at least 11 pts clear then).

Chelsea won their first 9 in 2005/06, that's the most wins from the start of pl

There's a bunch of stuff that gets forgotten about that 14/15 season.

We started the league season terribly and then halfway through went on a 13 match unbeaten run (33pts out of 39pts) and clambered back into CL contention. Going into a game vs Utd we were just 2 points behind:



Then we lost to Utd (those Mata goals, that Gerrard red card) and the rest of the season fell to bits (8pts out of 27pts). I remember getting so annoyed about Rodgers post-match comments in those final weeks of the season, his endless positivity totally ignoring the actual problems. When it came to the final day of the season I was actually too pissed off and didn't watch the Stoke game.


The return to the Champions League was awful as well. Its incredible he got to stay on for 15/16. At least FSG had the sense to pull the plug once they sensed they could get Klopp.

Rodgers seems to have matured a good bit since, and I think the whole experience has probably helped him understand where his strengths lie but jaysus there were some grim results in the post-Suarez days.

murpho999 wrote: »

Truly shocking performance made even worse when you see that Stoke were managed by Mark Hughes.

That was the game that ultimately led to the end of Rodgers.

When you see how poor the team and squad was then it makes all the more remarkable to see what Klopp has built in a short time and reached three European finals. Incredible.

Don’t get this. Maybe stoke were just really good.

On this day 4 years ago Jürgen Norbert Klopp became manager of the greatest club in the world.

garra wrote: »

That was disgusting and bitterly disappointing as we hadn't been in CL for years and to lie down for Real Madrid was sickening to the core. I still remember Gerrard's face on the bench.

I'd have been fine with it if he'd owned that team and stuck with it to some degree. They gave a better account of themselves than our supposed first team that got humbled at Anfield.

It might've had some value as a kick up the arse for some players if he'd done it on the merits of performances, but by then bringing the other players back in it was the worst of both worlds - defeatism in the CL and spitting on players who actually did some credit to the shirt in a big CL away games.

I think first and foremost, Rodgers is deeply, to his core, an insecure man. So when the pressure ramped up he wilted under it.

You could never imagine that happening to Klopp. He might lose, but it'd always be losing his way.

Rodgers seems to be a good coach and when Liverpool were on an upswing he was free to play to his strengths, but he didn't have the steel to maintain it as the expectations and pressure rose.

The club wasn't as well put together then as it was now, and that's only partly down to Klopp. I think we've better people involved top to bottom, and a more mature system and relationship between the different elements of the club, but even so, Klopp creates the kind of atmosphere for that to flourish in a way Rodgers can't. Klopp is naturally, effortlessly, charismatic. Rodgers practices the speech from Any Given Sunday in the mirror.

Gbear wrote: »

What's the record?

If we managed to get to 12 we'd all but deserve to win the league (we'd be at least 11 pts clear then).

United did ten in 85-86, but ultimately finished fourth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985%E2%80%9386_Manchester_United_F.C._season

Klopp has lost 20 PL games in 4 season Ole could lose that many by the end of the season.

Sliva has lost 19 PL games at Everton in 47 games.

At first I didnt mind Rodgers dropping players for Madrid as we were in awful form & I remember the performance was decent too.

But to then bring them all back for Chelsea just would have annoyed many players at the club. Also Rodgers thinking Lambert was good enough for Liverpool juat highlights he should never be in charge of transfers.

4 more years!

Read that is has been 5 years since Liverpool lost a home game where they are kicking towards the Anfield road end of the ground in the 2nd half. So much for the teams thinking they are getting an advantage from winning that coin toss