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Road to Tokyo 2020 - Irish Olympic News

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    Ok, thanks. But it's the only event that tickets weren't sold for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,829 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Ireland's women's hockey team will face Canada in the Olympic play off, as will the men. The play offs are over two legs.

    The draw seems favourable for the women's team - Canada were the lowest ranked team they could have met in the play off (15th in the world) and Ire will be playing at home : the men's team have to go to Canada.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/hockey/2019/0909/1074801-ireland-to-host-canada-in-2020-olympic-hockey-qualifier/


  • Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭KevinK


    Annalise Murphy has quit the 49erFx boat on which she had been trying to qualify for Tokyo, I wonder what this means, is she likely to go back to Laser?


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Skid X


    KevinK wrote: »
    Annalise Murphy has quit the 49erFx boat on which she had been trying to qualify for Tokyo, I wonder what this means, is she likely to go back to Laser?

    Looks like it

    https://www.sailing.ie/News/id/2342/irl-49erfx-olympic-campaign

    "Annalise Murphy is now going to take some time to consider her next steps. With the Laser Radial qualified for an Irish place in the Tokyo 2020 Olympics it would seem very likely that she will be back on the water soon."

    That would be tough on Aisling Keller, who secured the Laser Radial Olympic qualification

    https://afloat.ie/sail/olympic-sailing/tokyo-2020/item/43458-lough-derg-s-aisling-keller-secures-ireland-s-radial-place-at-tokyo-olympic-regatta


  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Oldira


    Big few weeks ahead with regard to Ireland obtaining Olympic quotas.

    26-30 Sept: Canoe Slalom World Championships. Canoeists need to finish in the Top 15 or Top 10 to qualfy. Irelands best chance is Liam Jegou who was under 23 Bronze Medalist this year. On an exceptionally good day he could do it but in reality its a slim chance.

    28- 6 Oct. World Championships Athletics. So far we have only qualified 3 athletes but this is down to the new qualification system. The vast majority of our qualifiers wont be finalised until next June based on world rankings. Hopefully we may get someone like Tom Barr who may run the time in Doha but the time standards are really tough.

    3-6 Oct. Equestrian. Nations Cup Final. A biggie. One final team showjumping place available. It looks like a head to head between Ireland and Italy. Are we to fail to qualify a showjumping team again?

    4-13 October. Gymnastics World Championships. Rhys McCLenaghan is a genuine medal contender if he qualifies. Has to finish in top 3 on Pommell Horse excluding gymnasts from countries that have qualified teams. Would expect him to do it but he fell at the recent world cup so lets hope thats his bad luck gone.

    22 Oct World Road Racing rankings finalised. Currently Ireland are 15th which means the will qualify a team of 3 to the Road Race and 1 to Time Trial. If the could get to 13th they would qualfy a team of 4.

    26-27 Oct Mens Hockey. Two match playoff versus Canada for a place at Olympics. Ireland will be slight outsiders and they recently lost their head coach so obviously all not well in the camp

    2-3 November Womens Hockey. Two match playoff versus Canada in Dublin. Ireland will be slight favourites and it would be great to qualify a womens team after a few near misses.


    So I would expect our team to increase by 23 in these few weeks.Very worst case is just the three cyclists qualify and best case is 39 with both hockey teams qualifying.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭locum-motion


    Oldira wrote: »
    ...
    So I would expect our team to increase by 23 in these few weeks.Very worst case is just the three cyclists qualify and best case is 39 with both hockey teams qualifying.

    Do you count 2 hockey teams as 22? :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Oldira


    Do you count 2 hockey teams as 22? :)

    Two Hockey teams is 32. they are allowed to bring 16 on a panel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭KevinK


    Oldira wrote: »
    Big few weeks ahead with regard to Ireland obtaining Olympic quotas.

    26-30 Sept: Canoe Slalom World Championships. Canoeists need to finish in the Top 15 or Top 10 to qualfy. Irelands best chance is Liam Jegou who was under 23 Bronze Medalist this year. On an exceptionally good day he could do it but in reality its a slim chance.

    28- 6 Oct. World Championships Athletics. So far we have only qualified 3 athletes but thi is down to the new qualification syste. The vast majority of our qualifiers wont be finalised until next June based on world ranking. Hopefully we may get someone like Tom Barr who may run the time in Doha but the time standards are really tough.

    3-6 Oct. Equestrian. Nations Cup Final. A biggie. One final team showjumping place available. It looks like a head to head between Ireland and Italy. Are we to fail to qualify a showjumping team again?

    4-13 October. Gymnastics World Championships. Rhys McCLenaghan is a genuine medal contender if he qualifies. Has to finish in top 3 on Pommell Horse excluding gymnasts from countries that have qualified teams. Would expect him to do it but he fell at the recent world cup so lets hope thats his bad luck gone.

    22 Oct World Road Racing rankings finalised. Currently Ireland are 15th which means the will qualify a team of 3 to the Road Race and 1 to Time Trial. If the could get to 13th they would qualfy a team of 4.

    26-27 Oct Mens Hockey. Two match playoff versus Canada for a place at Olympics. Ireland will be slight outsiders and they recently lost their head coach so obviously all not well in the camp

    2-3 November Womens Hockey. Two match playoff versus Canada in Dublin. Ireland will be slight favourites and it would be great to qualify a womens team after a few near misses.


    So I would expect our team to increase by 23 in these few weeks.Very worst case is just the three cyclists qualify and best case is 39 with both hockey teams qualifying.

    Great post, appreciate the info


  • Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭KevinK


    Skid X wrote: »
    Looks like it

    https://www.sailing.ie/News/id/2342/irl-49erfx-olympic-campaign

    "Annalise Murphy is now going to take some time to consider her next steps. With the Laser Radial qualified for an Irish place in the Tokyo 2020 Olympics it would seem very likely that she will be back on the water soon."

    That would be tough on Aisling Keller, who secured the Laser Radial Olympic qualification

    https://afloat.ie/sail/olympic-sailing/tokyo-2020/item/43458-lough-derg-s-aisling-keller-secures-ireland-s-radial-place-at-tokyo-olympic-regatta

    That would be harsh, but at the same time Murphy is an Olympic medalist so I can see the justification in parachuting her in. I guess they will compete against each other for the spot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,829 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    KevinK wrote: »
    That would be harsh, but at the same time Murphy is an Olympic medalist so I can see the justification in parachuting her in. I guess they will compete against each other for the spot.

    All is fair in love and war I suppose. Keller would be well aware that Murphy is the poster girl for Irish sailing....it's the team's duty to pick the best possible athletes and medal prospects


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Strazdas wrote: »
    All is fair in love and war I suppose. Keller would be well aware that Murphy is the poster girl for Irish sailing....it's the team's duty to pick the best possible athletes and medal prospects

    That's true. It is a bit tough on Aisling Keller, but irish sailing is the winner here. As there were two Irish sailors with the qualifying time, they were always going to run off a qualifying series between them before deciding, now i guess there will be 3 in the equation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Oldira


    Great news. Ireland has qualified a boat in the Men’s C1 slalom at the Canoe Slalom world championship. Contrary to an earlier post it was Robert Hendricks that got the qualification spot, 11th in the Semifinals. Now he will have a three way fight with Liam Jegou and jack Cochrane to see who goes to a Tokyo. Team now up to 21 in 7 Sports.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Skid X


    Excellent sixth place for Brendan Boyce in the World Championships 50K Walk in Doha

    He has already acheived the Olympic Qualifying time


    https://twitter.com/irishathletics/status/1178107277267673088


    https://www.rte.ie/sport/athletics/2019/0929/1078924-brendan-boyce-sixth-in-world-championships-50k-walk/


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    https://www.swimireland.ie/news/2020-olympic-games-nomination-policies-released

    Swim Ireland policy is that only world champs and the Irish nationals count for qualification purposes. Darragh Greene achieved his standard at the worlds so he only needs to get a less time at the Nationals to get the OK

    Shane Ryan achieved his time at the Irish nationals last year but that doesn’t count (apparently). Brendan Hyland got very close in Korea and Mona McSharry was below the time in 2017. Hopefully all 4 (and more) get the times and we can hang on to a relay spot too


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Big weekend of Olympic qualifying (hopefully)

    At the Nations Cup final in Showjumping, it’s effectively a three team fight for the final spot between Ireland, Italy and Spain. It’s about 45/45/10 in terms of percentage chances

    At the world gymnastics championships, we could qualify up to 3 athletes. Effectively there’s 12 all around spots open to gymnasts from teams who don’t qualify. In the women’s the cut off point is expected to be about 48 points and Emma Slevin averages above that at the moment. There’s little wiggle room but she should make it. Ireland has sent 3 girls ages 15-16-17

    In the men’s the same route is open to all rounders. If the same criteria was applied last year then Adam Steele would have qualified. There’s more athletes this year but he has a shot if he performs well

    Rhys McClenaghan may not even attempt to qualify in the all around. He fell twice last year at worlds and it soon came out that he was injured. Last month he fell in Paris too. If he doesn’t fall, he’s almost a lock to make the final in the pommel horse and that may be enough to qualify. The top 3 (non qualified) at pommel will book a ticket to Rio. Rhys will be looking to medal in Stuttgart and if he qualifies, he’s certainly a medal contender in Tokyo


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Pierre de Coubertin


    Dodge wrote: »
    Big weekend of Olympic qualifying (hopefully)

    At the Nations Cup final in Showjumping, it’s effectively a three team fight for the final spot between Ireland, Italy and Spain. It’s about 45/45/10 in terms of percentage chances

    Round one on facebook live now.

    I hope I'm wrong but think you are being generous with the 45% assessment there. They absolutely crumbled when the pressure came on in the Europeans and it will be 10 times greater here.

    What we want today is for as many of the non qualified teams besides us not to make the top 8 today who go on to the final on Sunday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Oldira


    Round one on facebook live now.

    I hope I'm wrong but think you are being generous with the 45% assessment there. They absolutely crumbled when the pressure came on in the Europeans and it will be 10 times greater here.

    What we want today is for as many of the non qualified teams besides us not to make the top 8 today who go on to the final on Sunday.


    Italy jump a clear in Round 1. Same old problem for Irelands, we just dont get enough clear rounds. Pressure on us already.
    It could be all over this evening. Italy make final and we dont.


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Pierre de Coubertin


    After 2 rounds the standings among the non-qualified teams is

    Italy 0 (0/8)
    Columbia 0 (9/0)
    Spain 4 (4/4)
    Ireland 5 (5/5)
    Norway 5 (17/5)
    Egypt 9 (9/ret)
    Portugal 13 (13/wd)


  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Oldira


    After 2 rounds the standings among the non-qualified teams is

    Italy 0 (0/8)
    Columbia 0 (9/0)
    Spain 4 (4/4)
    Ireland 5 (5/5)
    Norway 5 (17/5)
    Egypt 9 (9/ret)
    Portugal 13 (13/wd)


    Main thing is to qualify for the Top 8 and final. So far that is looking beyond us.


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Pierre de Coubertin


    Looking a lot better after 3 rounds now. By my calculations Cian O’Connor can afford 2 time faults here and we cant be out of the top 8. Even if he has a disaster we cant be worse than 10 which would probably be good enough to make the final

    Italy 4 (0/8/4)
    Columbia 4 (9/0/4)
    Ireland 5 (5/5/0)
    Spain 8 (4/4/13)
    Norway 15 (17/5/10)
    Egypt 25 (9/ret/16)
    Portugal ELIM (13/wd/wd)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Pierre de Coubertin


    Looking at it again I think the worst we can be now is joint 8th – and that is if Netherlands, Spain and Japan all go clear. A single rail from any one of those and we are safe.

    Not sure what the rule is on a jump off if there’s a tie for 8th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Pierre de Coubertin


    Japan 8 faults.

    We live to fight another day!


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Pierre de Coubertin


    Well Cian had 9 so we did end up on a 10 fault total. But with Japan and also Spain dropping back we cant be worse than 7th.

    On the Olympic qualification, Columbia are definitely in to the final with us but Italy aren't quite safe yet. Spain are not gone yet mathematically.

    Pray for an Italian cricket score!


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Pierre de Coubertin


    Only Italy Germany and Belgium to jump and how they go has a big bearing on our position.

    Spain are currently in 8th on 12 faults. If Germany go clear they will also be on 12 and it goes down to cumulative time, so that could push Spain down to 9th. Italy jump last. If they have a disaster they will be on 12 also and it could be them or Spain. What you want is for Germany to knock one of them out.

    PS just as I'm typing that, the German has done it! Spain out (unless Italy fall behind them which would be even better for us)

    Edit 9 faults for the Italian, their cumulative team time is quicker than Spain by less than half a second! Half a second slower and we wouldn't have had to face the Italians on Sunday. As it is the Olympic spot is now between us, them and the Columbians. Cant wait.


  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Oldira


    Only Italy Germany and Belgium to jump and how they go has a big bearing on our position.

    Spain are currently in 8th on 12 faults. If Germany go clear they will also be on 12 and it goes down to cumulative time, so that could push Spain down to 9th. Italy jump last. If they have a disaster they will be on 12 also and it could be them or Spain. What you want is for Germany to knock one of them out.

    PS just as I'm typing that, the German has done it! Spain out (unless Italy fall behind them which would be even better for us)

    Edit 9 faults for the Italian, their cumulative team time is quicker than Spain by less than half a second! Half a second slower and we wouldn't have had to face the Italians on Sunday. As it is the Olympic spot is now between us, them and the Columbians. Cant wait.


    Have to say the Columbians came out of left field. Hadnt counted them as a threat at all. All to play for though.

    Are there 1 or two rounds on Sunday?


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Pierre de Coubertin


    Oldira wrote: »
    Have to say the Columbians came out of left field. Hadnt counted them as a threat at all. All to play for though.

    Are there 1 or two rounds on Sunday?

    Wouldn't underestimate them at all for Sunday.

    That was so tight, we were 1 rail from going home. The Italians survive by half a miserable second. A little bit sickened by that as it would have made our task so much easier.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    Qualifications for Irish female gymnasts at the world championships just finished.

    This was Ireland's one real shot to qualify a female gymnast to the Olympics, and unfortunately it doesn't look like it's going to happen. Emma Slevin was on her way to a qualifying score until the last rotation, balance beam, where she uncharacteristically fell twice (had she hit, she would have safely qualified).

    Really unfortunate, but Emma's just 16 and this was her first year competing as a senior and first time competing at a world championships (same for her two teammates, Kate Molloy and Meg Ryan). I know she struggles with confidence on beam moreso than the other events, and it was bad luck she got drawn to end on that event. The pressure must have been really high. All of the Irish girls fell on beam after strong performances on the first three events. Beam is a killer.

    But they're all young and hopefully this will be good motivation for them to come back next quad with more experience under their belts!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    15.2 for Rhys McClenaghan on pommel today. That’ll easily be enough to qualify for the final. He went with 6.3 difficulty (lower than usual) and had a brilliant 8.9 on execution

    Adam Steele did well in the all round but now he waits to see if it’s food enough for one of the last quotas (Edit: his score was 77.431 - anyone who scored 78 was expected to qualify. Fingers crossed)

    Final for Rhys is next Saturday


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Pierre de Coubertin


    The Show Jumpers have done it!

    First team qualification since Athens.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    Women's qualifying is officially over and it looks like Meg Ryan will be the first alternate on the Olympic qualifying list. That means that right now, Ireland will not have a women's gymnastics representative in Tokyo, BUT if any of the individuals who qualified ahead of Meg get injured or their federations decide they won't compete for whatever reason, Meg gets the spot.


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