F1 2019 - Round 16 Russia

Faugheen · 29-09-2019 11:30am

2011 wrote: »

Faugheen wrote: »

I’m other words...

“I’m not slowing down for Charles.”

Which is fair enough in my opinion. If Charles is quick enough he will close the gap.

I agree 100%.

Rossi IRL · 29-09-2019 11:31am

Ferrari to Vettel "Keep going"

Ferrari to Leclerc "He will let you by in next 2 laps"

Hope this swap goes tits up for them.

Jordan 199 · 29-09-2019 11:31am

BikeRacer wrote: »

Multi 21 Part 2.

Malaysia 2013. Great race.

pjohnson · 29-09-2019 11:32am

Hamilton is closing on Leclerc ffs mental to try to swap.

A Shropshire Lad · 29-09-2019 11:33am

This is embarrassing from Ferrari. Drivers now having a row over the radio during a race !

skipper_G · 29-09-2019 11:34am

This Ferrari intra team battle is fascinating! Neither driver willing to back down

This is it · 29-09-2019 11:34am

Love LeClerc but he needs to stop whinging. As above, if he's quick enough he'll get close enough for a swap/overtake

El Inho · 29-09-2019 11:35am

VET would have caught LEC anyway. LEC needs to lose some of this privilege.

29-09-2019 11:35am

pjohnson wrote: »

Hamilton is closing on Leclerc ffs mental to try to swap.

Exactly

pjohnson · 29-09-2019 11:35am

Binotto/Mekies needs to tell Leclerc to shut up.

TCP/IP · 29-09-2019 11:36am

Looks like Ferrari are going to **** this up for themselves.

Go Seb and win this race on merit and so Charles who the boss is.

Cool_CM · 29-09-2019 11:36am

Seb is flying

HappyAsLarE · 29-09-2019 11:36am

Ferrari can go fcuk itself, Leclerc did not let Vettel pass.

So no matter what happens at race start they are just going to go back in starting grid order? Fcuk that.

PsychoPete · 29-09-2019 11:37am

Wouldn't really be a fan of Vettel but fair play to him for sticking to his guns.If that was Bottas and Hamilton, Bottas would have just let him passed no questions asked

skipper_G · 29-09-2019 11:37am

A Shropshire Lad wrote: »

This is embarrassing from Ferrari. Drivers now having a row over the radio during a race !

More of the same, I think it's great. Would you prefer drivers calmly agreeing with everything. A whole grid full of Bottas clones doing what they're told?

29-09-2019 11:37am

BikeRacer wrote: »

Multi 21 Part 2.

Not comparable. In this case Vettle has a 3 second gap. Why should he allow a slower driver pass and loose the gap he has built ??? If Charles was 0.5 seconds behind I would think differently.

Faugheen · 29-09-2019 11:38am

To those giving out about LeClerc ‘whinging’.

If I was told to hold back for a couple of laps (which is clearly the case here), then I was told there would be a swap, only to be told again there would be a swap next lap, and then the swap would be called off, you can guarantee I’d be pissed off as well.

I’m with Vettel on this one, but I already see the knives coming out for LeClerc in this thread at the moment.

HappyAsLarE · 29-09-2019 11:40am

Faugheen wrote: »

To those giving out about LeClerc ‘whinging’.

If I was told to hold back for a couple of laps (which is clearly the case here), then I was told there would be a swap, only to be told again there would be a swap next lap, and then the swap would be called off, you can guarantee I’d be pissed off as well.

I’m with Vettel on this one, but I already see the knives coming out for LeClerc in this thread at the moment.

He’s a whinge bag. He should tell Ferrari he doesn’t want a swap and wants to pass Vettel on merit.

29-09-2019 11:40am

Faugheen wrote: »

If I was told to hold back for a couple of laps (which is clearly the case here)

It is not clear to me that he was told to “hold back” for a number of laps.

pjohnson · 29-09-2019 11:40am

Faugheen wrote: »

To those giving out about LeClerc ‘whinging’.

If I was told to hold back for a couple of laps (which is clearly the case here), then I was told there would be a swap, only to be told again there would be a swap next lap, and then the swap would be called off, you can guarantee I’d be pissed off as well.

I’m with Vettel on this one, but I already see the knives coming out for LeClerc in this thread at the moment.

No knives for Leclerc he should just understand the sport. Granted he is young and inexperienced but he fell way too far behind Seb to be able to pull off a swap without destroying Sebs race and inviting Hamilton into the equation.

Itssoeasy · 29-09-2019 11:41am

Thats grand that Ferrari had different plans, but just because they may have agreed on a plan in race may/ likely different.

skipper_G · 29-09-2019 11:41am

Faugheen wrote: »

To those giving out about LeClerc ‘whinging’.

If I was told to hold back for a couple of laps (which is clearly the case here), then I was told there would be a swap, only to be told again there would be a swap next lap, and then the swap would be called off, you can guarantee I’d be pissed off as well.

I’m with Vettel on this one, but I already see the knives coming out for LeClerc in this thread at the moment.

Yeah that would be that same people who moan about things like driver's giving PR responses and not showing their real personality. And oh look, when they do show some personality the same people crap all over them anyway. Can't win either way. F1 fans are never happy

29-09-2019 11:42am

I’m rooting for Seb. Dunno if it’s Ferrari’s doing, Charles’ doing or a combination of both but I’m starting to dislike Charles LeClerc.

Come on Seb!!!!

TCP/IP · 29-09-2019 11:42am

Seb got the lead clean and clear why in gods name should he give the place up.

Seb is the number 1 driver so back him.

HappyAsLarE · 29-09-2019 11:43am

skipper_G wrote: »

Yeah that would be that same people who moan about things like driver's giving PR responses and not showing their real personality. And oh look, when they do show some personality the same people crap all over them anyway. Can't win either way. F1 fans are never happy

F1 fans will be happy when a car of greater velocity than another car is in front. It is the definition of racing.

Itssoeasy · 29-09-2019 11:44am

Vettel is flying.

pjohnson · 29-09-2019 11:44am

If Marko called for a swap thatd be understandable as Kvyat and Gasly are sub 1 second apart. A +1.5 second gap? Get real.

PsychoPete · 29-09-2019 11:45am

I'd imagine it's so frustrating as a racing driver when your so competitive and have the mindset of wanting to win to be told let your team mate pass you

Tzardine · 29-09-2019 11:45am

TCP/IP wrote: »

Seb got the lead clean and clear why in gods name should he give the place up.

Seb is the number 1 driver so back him.

Leclerc gave him a tow and did not defend like he would have if there was no prearranged agreement.

So sebs gets the tow and an easy jump into P1 from P3 , but does not want to hold up his end of the deal.

I agree with Leclerc on this.

Faugheen · 29-09-2019 11:46am

Hülkenberg shows great pace.

7.2s pitstop because mechanics dropped the car off the jack.

I swear he has absolutely no luck. Anytime he looks race-y something happens out of his control.

skipper_G · 29-09-2019 11:47am

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

F1 fans will be happy when a car of greater velocity than another car is in front. It is the definition of racing.

It's the same with team orders. I can remember when they were still banned, and what did F1 fans want? "they should just let them do team orders instead of silly messages on the radio"
Team orders were unbanned and now in this thread there are people calling for them to be banned again......

HappyAsLarE · 29-09-2019 11:48am

Tzardine wrote: »

Leclerc gave him a tow and did not defend like he would have if there was no prearranged agreement.

So sebs gets the tow and an easy jump into P1 from P3 , but does not want to hold up his end of the deal.

I agree with Leclerc on this.

If you think that a driver was at an unfair disadvantage vs grid no. 3 by being on pole then please stop typing.

Itssoeasy · 29-09-2019 11:49am

Multi 21 indeed.

TCP/IP · 29-09-2019 11:50am

Tzardine wrote: »

Leclerc gave him a tow and did not defend like he would have if there was no prearranged agreement.

So sebs gets the tow and an easy jump into P1 from P3 , but does not want to hold up his end of the deal.

I agree with Leclerc on this.

Seb got the tow as he had a perfect start better than Hamilton the tow is so powerful he could breeze past Leclerc fighting or not.

HappyAsLarE · 29-09-2019 11:51am

skipper_G wrote: »

It's the same with team orders. I can remember when they were still banned, and what did F1 fans want? "they should just let them do team orders instead of silly messages on the radio"
Team orders were unbanned and now in this thread there are people calling for them to be banned again......

Team orders should not be banned. But teams that have a policy of “let them race within reason” should be lauded. Teams doing swaps despite a fair pass should be condemned. In my opinion anyway.

Cool_CM · 29-09-2019 11:53am

Le Clerc in

Tzardine · 29-09-2019 11:53am

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

If you think that a driver was at an unfair disadvantage vs grid no. 3 by being on pole then please stop typing.

You are missing the point. The plan was for Lec to tow Seb, allowing him to gain an advantage over Ham, and passing him.

Ordinarily Leclerc would have been much more defensive and not made it so easy for Seb. It seems that this was prearranged with a deal that Seb would give P1 back to Lec. But again Seb shows himself to not be a team player and gives him two fingers.

skipper_G · 29-09-2019 11:53am

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

Team orders should not be banned. But teams that have a policy of “let them race within reason” should be lauded. Teams doing swaps despite a fair pass should be condemned. In my opinion anyway.

I don't disagree, but there's less hysterics when Bottas rolls over for Hamilton

Itssoeasy · 29-09-2019 11:55am

Vettel saying his tyres are going off.

HappyAsLarE · 29-09-2019 11:56am

Tzardine wrote: »

You are missing the point. The plan was for Lec to tow Seb, allowing him to gain an advantage over Ham, and passing him.

Ordinarily Leclerc would have been much more defensive and not made it so easy for Seb. It seems that this was prearranged with a deal that Seb would give P1 back to Lec. But again Seb shows himself to not be a team player and gives him two fingers.

So, you think it is correct and fair that Vettel has no way of winning the race?

HappyAsLarE · 29-09-2019 11:57am

skipper_G wrote: »

I don't disagree, but there's less hysterics when Bottas rolls over for Hamilton

We’ve all written of Bottas as a non-contender. I appreciate Nick Rosberg so much now.

Tzardine · 29-09-2019 11:58am

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

So, you think it is correct and fair that Vettel has no way of winning the race?

Who says he has no way of winning the race? I would say that if he had let Lec pass he would have overtaken him again fairly soon anyway, he is flying today.

My point is that there was an agreement in place with his team mate, but Seb as usual is has shown himself to not be a team player.

Cool_CM · 29-09-2019 11:59am

Is this how Ferrari try and give the lead back?

Yup, leave him out on softs and tack half a second onto the stop

PsychoPete · 29-09-2019 12:00pm

I'd love to see Vettel taking Le Clerc again

29-09-2019 12:00pm

Come on Seb get passed him!

Itssoeasy · 29-09-2019 12:01pm

Ah jaysus.

Faugheen · 29-09-2019 12:01pm

Here we go. Fun time!

Tzardine · 29-09-2019 12:01pm

Lovely. Karma strikes.

This is it · 29-09-2019 12:01pm

Would love to see them race. Vettel will catch him

Cool_CM · 29-09-2019 12:01pm

Fook

F1 2019 - Round 16 Russia

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