Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

tommylad1212 wrote: »

Not a hope would they kill/fenor are playing relegation final from intermediate this week so kilmac /bunmahon/ Newtown players would make them a strong senior team !! Its hard enough to try get championships finished never mind throwing in group teams

I think people are missing the point here. its so teams can play at a stronger level. look at clan na gael theyre exposing players to higher levels under age and teams like dunhill are expiriencing a good influx of player. the same can be said for erins own/ ferrbank when they combined 3 years ago and were within seconds of beating dela salle for an u21 title. them players wouldnt have played at that level only for combined teams

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Group teams were trialled in Waterford before and didn't work. The appetite isn't there and it's something clubs need to drive themselves, not county boards.

What you will see in the coming years is smaller clubs amalgamating at adult level more. Too many clubs to sustain for the current player base in the County.

Thankfully someone said it. They simply don’t work in Waterford. Tried in the past, teams hardly trained together, struggled to field and when they did they lost by cricket scores. Different in cork where there is tradition and honour in playing for your division. Sounds good and all and it’s a pity that someone like Micheal Harney who was an outstanding underage player for the county is with a club that struggles and I fear he may have to move to a senior club if he’s ever to reestablish himself at intercounty level

cul beag wrote: »

Stephen Molumphy and Tony Browne are the rumoured names as selectors with Liam Cahill.

I think when you see the rumoured Cork set up of Kingston, Sully, Cunningham and Pat Mulcahy it shows us where we’re at. Cork obviously have great resources to put these fellas in the one management team given all are potential intercounty management material on their own.

Browne has limited experience to my knowledge and Molumphy the same. Would place a good deal of pressure on Cahill and Bevan.
I really do think the backroom team is absolutely vital in this appointment and hope we can get a strong management team in place.

cul beag wrote: »

Stephen Molumphy and Tony Browne are the rumoured names as selectors with Liam Cahill.

Browne is completely clueless

He was an absolutely iconic and amazing player but it doesn’t automatically make him very good from a managerial point of view unfortunately. Winning Intermediate with a lismore team that should never have been Intermediate isn’t an impressive feat.

Lingoweet913 wrote: »

He was an absolutely iconic and amazing player but it doesn’t automatically make him very good from a managerial point of view unfortunately. Winning Intermediate with a lismore team that should never have been Intermediate isn’t an impressive feat.

I never said he was a very good coach just said calling him completely clueless was harsh. To make a comment like that shows how clueless you are and on lismore if coarse they deserved to be intermediate they were relegated.

killbillvol2 wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

Sound lad hahahaha

Lingoweet913 wrote: »

OK. Completely clueless was too harsh and lazy. My bad.

He has an extremely narrow view of the game, and I think that is a problem when it comes to intercounty management working with modern tactics. I don't think he's intercounty standard because I don't think he understands fully how the modern intercounty game has changed from the game he played.

With regards Lismore - look, any team who goes down in a particular year deserves to go down. But as a whole, the years before and since they were intermediate, they were way way above that standard. It was a blip.

You could not be more wrong if you tried. He is the complete opposite of what you are saying. One of the most forward thinking coaches I have met and very tactically aware of the modern game. Would love to see him getting very involved.

PTH2009 wrote: »

So if Ballygunner Intermediates win today and then manage to win the Eastern final will the western champs go straight up to senior without having to win the county intermediate ??

Big ask tho[/quote

I think Tallow did it in the eighties.

PTH2009 wrote: »

So if Ballygunner Intermediates win today and then manage to win the Eastern final will the western champs go straight up to senior without having to win the county intermediate ??

Big ask tho[/quote

I think Tallow did it in the eighties.

PTH2009 wrote: »

So if Ballygunner Intermediates win today and then manage to win the Eastern final will the western champs go straight up to senior without having to win the county intermediate ??

Big ask tho[/quote

I think Tallow did it in the eighties.

Dunhill 3-24 (33)- Ballyduff Lower 5-17 (32) FT

Half time score in the other semi Ballygunner 2-11- Portlaw 0-04

FT- Ballygunner 3-17- Portlaw 0-09

Eastern Intermediate hurling final- Dunhill vs Ballygunner Intermediates

Western Intermediate hurling final- Ardmore vs Ballysaggart

Road-Hog wrote: »

Cork going back to Kingston with sully....this is hardly a good appointment? isn’t Kingston the guy who left the job a meer two years after we sent them home from Croke Park with the second half demolition performance ( has to have been my best ever day as a Waterford supporter.....langer after langer leaving the game with ten mins to go etc etc), the squad/panel not hugely different to me it shows all not well with them either, surely they would have been able to attract a bigger name......??

I would look at it differently in that Cork were well in control until Cahalane needlessly got himself sent off, although it was a hugely enjoyable win!

Kingston left on his own terms I believe, due to work commitments and Sully was seemingly popular with players in a similar way to how Dan was here. So they are essentially adding 2 coaches with huge experience into that management team that saw them reach a semi final.
They might still be short in the half back line but I do think they have put an excellent management team together here, and possibly have a successor to Kingston there in Mulcahy too. I wouldn’t consider our rumoured management team to be in the same league of Corks or the current Limerick / Tipp ones.
Not saying it can’t be a success, maybe it will be the making of Browne / Molumphy if they are indeed on the ticket.