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Irish Rail: Solution to overcrowding

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  • Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    That is absolute crap.

    You will NOT be fined for not tapping an active day/week/month ticket stored on a Leap card.

    It is incorrect to refer to this as tapping on/off as once a period ticket is activated and in date it is "on" by default for the entirety of it's duration.

    On inspection it will report that a valid active ticket is held and there will be no grounds to fine the holder.

    Correct. I have an annual pass and in the early days I got on the Luas without “tapping on” and inspectors boarded it. I mentioned it to them when they were checking my leap card and they said there was no need.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Here's a novel idea: why not properly plan for, fund and deliver public transportation projects in a proper manner?

    Public transport infrastructure in Ireland is shockingly poor and along with serious deficiencies in housing and health is compromising economic competitiveness and social cohesion, not to mention quality of life.

    Because that would mean planning....not letting developers go full steam ahead building houses everywhere...planning....maybe asking people to pay more tax to fund these social necessaries....planning....more money to integrate services into new developments....more planning.

    We firefight in this country, it is rare that we think ahead.And we aren't prepared to break the status quo and view paying more tax to offset our own personal costs for health system use,public transport etc. as a benefit.Nothing annoys me more than seeing endless housing estates going up around one train station/busroute and being advertised as being "30 mins from the city centre" or similar -when everyone in the area knows you can't get parking at the train stations, the buses don't time to tie in with the trains and you can't pysically get on most of the services.

    Rant over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 409 ✭✭AlphabetCards


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Here's a novel idea: why not properly plan for, fund and deliver public transportation projects in a proper manner?

    Public transport infrastructure in Ireland is shockingly poor and along with serious deficiencies in housing and health is compromising economic competitiveness and social cohesion, not to mention quality of life.

    Why people stay in Ireland under these ridiculous conditions boggles me. Unless you already have a house, or work for the PS/CS, you may as well up sticks and go abroad to somewhere that your government, taxman and landlord wont totally **** you over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭Infini


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Here's a novel idea: why not properly plan for, fund and deliver public transportation projects in a proper manner?

    Public transport infrastructure in Ireland is shockingly poor and along with serious deficiencies in housing and health is compromising economic competitiveness and social cohesion, not to mention quality of life.

    Let's be honest here the real issue is that the goverment in the past has treated rail as a money making semi state instead of treating it as what it should be: Core infrastructure. The whole problem is all the cutbacks and "cost savings" from the last decade are coming back to bite everyone in the áss as the existing infrastructure is buckling under the strain of the demand.

    Remember they went and cancelled Dart Underground moaning it was too expensive even though it was ready to go essentially for a bloody metro thats a decade away. DU wasn't just about a new underground tunnel it would have doubled capacity because you'd have 2 Dart lines from North Dublin through to Hazelhatch and another from Maynooth to Bray both intersecting at Pearse. This would have also included new rail stock that would have increased capacity as well not to mention splitting the lines take's alot of pressure off the critically bottlenecked Connolly section where 3 lines from the North merge into one going south.

    This is the reason everyone's suffering now because to "save money" instead of considering it an investment in infrastructure that would have paid off in the long term, we now have an ageing Dart fleet in which the older ones are regularly failing due to various issues from their age and insufficient capacity to meet demand as we can't get more and the current Rail network in Dublin is essentially still VICTORIAN in design. The only thing the company can do now is encourage people to try and use less demanding services to avoid the worst of it because they're tied down physically by the current constraints of poor vision, goverment meddling and a struggling stock that part of it is reaching life expired status (40 year's is about the normal life of an average rail stock).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,457 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    A lot of I.T. companies offer flexible working hours, e.g. 10-6:30, 7:30-4pm etc.

    I'm surprised Irish Rail don't promote people to work from home a day or two.
    They'd still get their taxsaver ticket revenue and less people on the train.

    Tbh the trains are still over crowded at those times only train that not for me is the 9.30.

    As you say it's working from home that should be promoted.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,457 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    They could upgrade the maynooth line and run more trains into the Docklands. It's only 10 mins walk to Connolly. Trains are every 30 mins and none during the middle of the day. Currently trains are too short and have been over crowded for a couple of years.

    With all the development around there they are probably too late now to grab any land that might be useful to give them some options.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,457 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Legalise eScooters and put in some proper cycling lanes with priority and that would help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    A very Irish solution. It actually beggers belief that they are asking this. Upgrade the line and run more trains ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Was in Dublin the last few days for work. Had the misfortune of a few trips on the Luas at peak times. Cannot fathom how someone could face that every day.

    Even got given out to by a D4 girl for daring to get off at my stop :D


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    We have an irish problem without an irish solution. The width of our tracks is known as Irish Gauge. Its wider then everyone elses. When we get trains, they have to be specifically made for us. They cant just get them off someone else. Purchasing second hand is not much cheaper becuase of alot of additional work that'll need to be done.
    Swap the bogies.

    In Oz and Spain they used to do that on mid journey. Passengers get out. Lift the carriages off one set of wheels and drop them down on the other size wheels. Passengers get back in and away you go again. To reuse foreign rolling stock it would only have to be done once.

    Spain eventually engineered variable width wheels. IICR Oz changed the gauge of the rails.


    Like the Spain to France example above, Russia very, very deliberately used a different width to Germany. Both sides on the Eastern Front had to lay track while advancing and rip it up while retreating.

    There is no real reason to reduce the width of our rails. Plus wider rails mean trains are more stable.


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