Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

gmacww · 19-09-2019 11:44AM

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Just saw this: https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/cyclist-rushed-to-hospital-following-collision-with-truck-in-dublin-38512302.html

Thankfully...

It'll never quite beat this one...

https://twitter.com/jemelehill/status/1173820722910679041?s=20

average_runner · 19-09-2019 11:59AM

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Just saw this: https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/cyclist-rushed-to-hospital-following-collision-with-truck-in-dublin-38512302.html

Thankfully...

Have to report about both involved in the accident. I mean driver could of had a heart attack.

Its correct practise even if you don't agree with it

magicbastarder · 19-09-2019 01:12PM

yep, standard practice to report on the parties involved in the accident, even if completely unhurt.

Kander · 19-09-2019 05:14PM

https://streamable.com/yrzh5

She hit the kerb on the left trying to make the gap.I was petty so I filtered past and just waited in traffic ahead of her....:rolleyes:

sy_flembeck · 19-09-2019 10:46PM

Kander wrote: »

https://streamable.com/yrzh5

She hit the kerb on the left trying to make the gap.I was petty so I filtered past and just waited in traffic ahead of her....:rolleyes:

Unbelivable. Achieved nothing, absolutely nothing. Utterly, utterly pointless manoeuvre

magicbastarder · 19-09-2019 11:01PM

i'd go to the gardai with that. that was utterly reckless.

buffalo · 20-09-2019 09:17AM

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Not seen since before summer, there was a long tailback at the roundabout leaving Leixlip to travel towards the N4 J5. Still, it felt absolutely great passing them all until I reached the roundabout where for some reason cars frequently choose to move out of the lane onto the hatched markings making it more difficult for cyclists to enter the roundabout.

heh, had someone do this on my way in this morning - when I got to the roundabout he was sitting out of the traffic lane in the crosshatching. So I assumed that he had pulled in off the road, and from his driver-side window I proceeded straight through the roundabout.

Driver gave me a long stare as he passed on the far side, oblivious to anything he had done.

Kfagan10 · 20-09-2019 10:10AM

Silver people carrier nearly made mince meat of me on the approach to the Woodies slip on the N4 inbound. Absolutely booting it up the bus lane, passed me by centimetres.

Nearly sure it's the same vehicle that had some little scanger kid shouting out the passenger window about cycle lanes the other morning at the same spot. ****.

Mr Rubicon Conundrum · 20-09-2019 10:25AM

Seth Brundle wrote: »

I've been beeped several times by cement and dump trucks along the Newcastle rd simply for being there.
Hopefully the cyclist is ok.

I was run off the road by a cement truck in Newcastle 3 years ago. I emailed the company. I got a response, full of apology, etc. I wonder was it the same company (hint: they will knock over and 'kill Sharon').

tnegun · 20-09-2019 10:41AM

On that same road this am and a guy tried to pass me through a junction into an on coming lorry, lorry blew him out of it, I didn't hear him coming behind me so got the fright when the lorry blew him and then he jammed on an swerved in behind me inches from my back wheel!! All this to join the queue at the next lights.

buffalo · 20-09-2019 11:17AM

buffalo wrote: »

heh, had someone do this on my way in this morning - when I got to the roundabout he was sitting out of the traffic lane in the crosshatching. So I assumed that he had pulled in off the road, and from his driver-side window I proceeded straight through the roundabout.

Driver gave me a long stare as he passed on the far side, oblivious to anything he had done.

Completely missed the lane:

Effects · 20-09-2019 12:43PM

I was heading southbound on the Sean Moore road at 6.45am, this morning, in the car. As I was going around the roundabout after the eastlink there was a cyclist entering it on the wrong side of the road, and proceeded around the roundabout in the wrong direction.
Luckily he had a fairly dim front light and two red lights on the rear. Bit of a mad way to commute, but maybe he's a foreigner, it was early for him and he got confused about which side of the road he should be cycling on!

average_runner · 20-09-2019 02:29PM

buffalo wrote: »

heh, had someone do this on my way in this morning - when I got to the roundabout he was sitting out of the traffic lane in the crosshatching. So I assumed that he had pulled in off the road, and from his driver-side window I proceeded straight through the roundabout.

Driver gave me a long stare as he passed on the far side, oblivious to anything he had done.

You will see cars do this at super valu in lucan, its a one lane roundabout but they driver up the inside to go left

Steoller · 20-09-2019 02:46PM

average_runner wrote: »

You will see cars do this at super valu in lucan, its a one lane roundabout but they driver up the inside to go left

Same in Ashtown at the Watermint apartments, and any other sufficiently small roundabout. Lethal.

papu · 21-09-2019 12:10PM

Coming up that awful bendy hill on lower bridge st towards Christchurch Dublin, Taxi number 19875 passes a little too close for comfort.
He stops in traffic at the lights on high st, I pull along side and tell him he passed a little close, he says f off , I say fine, he starts giving me the middle finger and gesticulating in a most peculiar manner, I take a picture of this and toddle on.
I'm turning right onto clanbrassil st upper and signal to do so from the middle lane, the numpty in the taxi pulls up along side me and tries to push off the bike with his 131 Prius.. I slap his wing mirror and push it in towards the car, its hinged, nothing broken ( the handle bars were inches from them anyway).
He pulls in infront of me and hops out of the car, the car behind, a white range rover pulls over as well and starts telling taxi man what he just did was really dangerous. I cycle on and turn down werburgh st, white range rover follows comes alongside and asks if I'm ok. They saw the whole thing... well, as did the fare in the taxi mans car...

tnegun · 21-09-2019 01:32PM

You should take that to the guards at the very least they'll have a word with him and a record of his behaviour

ED E · 21-09-2019 02:22PM

tnegun wrote: »

You should take that to the guards at the very least they'll have a word with him and a record of his behaviour

Nothing is/can be recorded unless the member assigneds supervisor thinks its chargeable. Often the RPU take a "no contact no foul" approach to cyclist reports. They can offer adult cautions but have to be able to charge them if they reject that offer.

papu · 21-09-2019 03:33PM

tnegun wrote: »

You should take that to the guards at the very least they'll have a word with him and a record of his behaviour

If I had the details of the range rover driver maybe. Or if I had a camera on my bike, but I was on a dublin bike..

RobbieMD · 21-09-2019 03:50PM

ED E wrote: »

Nothing is/can be recorded unless the member assigneds supervisor thinks its chargeable. Often the RPU take a "no contact no foul" approach to cyclist reports. They can offer adult cautions but have to be able to charge them if they reject that offer.

It absolutely can be recorded if reported to the Gardaí. A member does not require a supervisors permission to create a pulse entry. Personally I would report it if I had some details of the offending car. If I didn’t have a reg I wouldn’t.

Also to the best of my knowledge there are no road traffic offences included in the Adult cautioning scheme.

ofthelord · 21-09-2019 06:23PM

I was going down the hill passed the Beehive pub this afternoon when a car sped passed me with only a couple of inches to spare. I must have been going 40km+ at the time and it scared the crap out of me. How hard is it to overtake safely? This car didn't break their line of travel, there was no pulling back in following overtake. Put me in a foul mood for a few minutes but happily no other drama after that and the rain held off until I got home.

tnegun · 21-09-2019 06:42PM

ED E wrote: »

Nothing is/can be recorded unless the member assigneds supervisor thinks its chargeable. Often the RPU take a "no contact no foul" approach to cyclist reports. They can offer adult cautions but have to be able to charge them if they reject that offer.

If you make a complaint it will be recorded against the driver and show on pulse in future or at least thats what I've been told when making a similar complaint.

Chiparus · 21-09-2019 06:53PM

ED E wrote: »

Nothing is/can be recorded unless the member assigneds supervisor thinks its chargeable. Often the RPU take a "no contact no foul" approach to cyclist reports. They can offer adult cautions but have to be able to charge them if they reject that offer.

Can you ask the garda to get the insurance details of the driver?

RobbieMD · 21-09-2019 07:04PM

Chiparus wrote: »

Can you ask the garda to get the insurance details of the driver?

If there is injury to persons or property then yes you would be entitled to insurance information if there is any.

Chiparus · 21-09-2019 07:13PM

RobbieMD wrote: »

If there is injury to persons or property then yes you would be entitled to insurance information if there is any.

Grand so, tell the guard you are considering taking an action based on the close pass and ask them to get the persons insurance details.

magicbastarder · 21-09-2019 08:01PM

if there was no contact and no damage to claim, there's nothing actionable from an insurance point of view, so why would the garda pass over those details?

Seth Brundle · 21-09-2019 08:18PM

Mental anguish?

(Not that you'd get much!)

average_runner · 21-09-2019 08:35PM

Chiparus wrote: »

Grand so, tell the guard you are considering taking an action based on the close pass and ask them to get the persons insurance details.

Claim culture is alive

Kaisr Sose · 21-09-2019 08:56PM

RobbieMD wrote: »

Chiparus wrote: »

Can you ask the garda to get the insurance details of the driver?

If there is injury to persons or property then yes you would be entitled to insurance information if there is any.

They declined (refused) to give me the insurance details of a driver citing GDPR. A driver close passed me, and then tried to sqeeze me into the kerb. I fell off and into the road. I had a few cuts, grazes, bruised my ribs and strained a ligament in my knee. I had to go hospital later that day.

The driver knew I fell and drove off. I had a witness and video. After many months, I was told no prosecution and I could not have the insurance details. When I questioned this I was told I should have got these fom the driver, to which I said, eh, they did not stop (face palmðŸ€”)

I have made a written request for the insurance details. Its just not acceptable that the Garda are using GDPR as an excuse not to provide information that is required. That is not the purpose of GDPR.

RobbieMD · 21-09-2019 09:25PM

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

They declined (refused) to give me the insurance details of a driver citing GDPR. A driver close passed me, and then tried to sqeeze me into the kerb. I fell off and into the road. I had a few cuts, grazes, bruised my ribs and strained a ligament in my knee. I had to go hospital later that day.

The driver knew I fell and drove off. I had a witness and video. After many months, I was told no prosecution and I could not have the insurance details. When I questioned this I was told I should have got these fom the driver, to which I said, eh, they did not stop (face palmðŸ€”)

I have made a written request for the insurance details. Its just not acceptable that the Garda are using GDPR as an excuse not to provide information that is required. That is not the purpose of GDPR.

Strange. It’s provided for under Section 106 of the Road Traffic Act

CramCycle · 21-09-2019 09:54PM

I was simply handed the details by the Garda who got them off the database. Another Garda said I'd need a solicitor to request it from the Super. I am not sure there is any consistency.

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