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Are terrible driving habits on the rise?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    antodeco wrote: »
    I agree with the second point 100%. However, the first part of that is, if there are 2 lanes, and a car can drive to the end of it, then there is technically nothing wrong. People just arent using the lanes correctly. I see this all the time. There are 2 lanes, and one merges. That individual lane has no cars in it, so in essence only 1 lane is being used.
    It's there to allow you time to merge safely, if you can merge before the very end, you should.
    Obviously, if no one will let you out, then fair enough, keep going until you can. If there's space to merge and you continue to drive up the full length of it to get an extra car or two ahead, you're just being a dick.

    But yeah, the problem is on both sides; People won't let you merge, and some people will drive to the very end and try force their way in, causing traffic behind them to have to brake.
    If people knew how to zipper merge, the M50 would be a bit more bearable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RedorDead


    ianobrien wrote: »
    I drove from Cork to Killarney today and I saw one car do the following, incorrect merge at the end of a Dual Carriageway (barge his way through ignoring the zip merge), dangerous overtake and then slow down the car he just overtook, hog the overtaking lane, arbitrarily stop on a main road to let a car merge and then get thick (blowing the horn) when the car didn't move (the other lane of traffic was still barrelling along at approx 90kph, the merger had cop on not to get creamed). Thankfully I lost him on the County Bounds. If you asked the driver, s/he probably didn't know what they did wrong......

    Oh, he also ran an amber light in Macroom when there was PLENTY of time to stop (traffic was so heavy

    Not excusing this drivers antics but overly slow merging onto motorways is incredibly dangerous and one of my bugbears. Idiots thinking its a good idea to merge into the M50 at 60km/h when there are cars flying past you at 100km/h + deserve to be hauled off the road as its downright dangerous.

    I dont advocate merging at the same speed the cars on the motorway are doing (ideally you would) but at least be doing 90km/h when merging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    RedorDead wrote: »
    Not excusing this drivers antics but overly slow merging onto motorways is incredibly dangerous and one of my bugbears. Idiots thinking its a good idea to merge into the M50 at 60km/h when there are cars flying past you at 100km/h + deserve to be hauled off the road as its downright dangerous.

    I dont advocate merging at the same speed the cars on the motorway are doing (ideally you would) but at least be doing 90km/h when merging.
    You'd be doing well to get up to 60km/h on a good day on the M50 :pac:
    They're the same people who will pull off after stopping in a hard shoulder and immediately merge into traffic, doing less than 20km/h while everyone else is doing at least 100km/h

    Also comes back to the use of slip roads again, there are people who will use the full length when not needed and then just merge in at the end, not looking in their mirrors or being anywhere close to motorway speed.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    You'd be doing well to get up to 60km/h on a good day on the M50 :pac:
    In fairness, that's simply untrue and leads to excusing poor behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    In fairness, that's simply untrue and leads to excusing poor behaviour.
    In fairness, you missed the humour, implied by the :pac:


    Outside of rush hours, it's somewhat normal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭Borgo


    Passed my driving test in April this year. Ive been on the motorway a few times since. This morning I just drove from Tullamore back to Dublin. Why cant people drive properly? Very close overtaking, no indicating, weaving in and out of traffic, and of course speeding.
    I drive a 1.8 TDCI focus and I do the 120 easy while I overtake the usual trucks vans etc but these people look down at you as if your going too slow when they fly by you. Its even worse in heavy rain as I found out yesterday.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    JayMK wrote: »
    Passed my driving test in April this year. Ive been on the motorway a few times since. This morning I just drove from Tullamore back to Dublin. Why cant people drive properly? Very close overtaking, no indicating, weaving in and out of traffic, and of course speeding.
    I drive a 1.8 TDCI focus and I do the 120 easy while I overtake the usual trucks vans etc but these people look down at you as if your going too slow when they fly by you. Its even worse in heavy rain as I found out yesterday.

    Simply put, they just dont care. If anything happens, its someone elses problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,431 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Posted here already in the early days of the thread but the more I have posts I've read the more I'm noticing bad driving lol (was well aware of it before but even moreso now lol).


    One thing stands head and shoulders ahead of all others I've seen: phones while driving.
    What is the obsession with mobile phones? Especially holding it to your ear as you tootle along??? Especially in modern cars/vans that would/should have blutooth built in as standard, this just leaves me gobsmacked :o
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    In Germany people believe that the rules are there for the benefit of everyone, they make sure everything runs smoothly and everyone knows where they stand and what their rights and obligations are.
    In Ireland the rules are viewed as an obstacle to be bent, broken and overcome.

    Yes, but that is not just driving, this is a culture thing.

    800 years etc. have left the Irish with this resentment of government as alien and illegitimate and admiration for the rebel and the rulebreaker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Thought I would bring this thread to life again by mentioning something which appears to be a recent enough occurrence on the roads, from what I can see.

    It's the apparent disregard of the tried and trusted 'right of way' system that has worked for decades. I see it every day, without fail and it's getting worse.

    I could give endless examples but it mostly consists of drivers slowing down in mid-traffic to allow other motorists to pull out of a side road/entrance to a housing estate/garage forecourt etc. I've even seen this shocking practice on roundabouts of all places.

    You could argue that it's a good example of human kindness and consideration to others but to me it seems more like a re-writing the rules of the road by irresponsible drivers, without much thought for the possible consequences.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭statto25


    On the other side of the "right of way" rule is cars overtaking a parked car on a road (not in a parking space but on the road itself) with oncoming traffic. They barrel through disregarding that traffic moving in the opposite direction has right of way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    In my experience its probably a little better than before with less boy racer lunatics on the road. 15 years ago you would come across hardshoulder racing or lads acting the maggot on back roads once every few weeks but I havent seen this in a good while now.

    For every other driver its not much different.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    Aw yes. Yet another back slapping forum for “ really good “ drivers.

    So strange that it’s always those “ people “ who make so many mistakes on the roads. It’s never us.

    So who are all these “ people “ . Everyone that I know is a “ great driver “ and most of them spend their time giving out about those “ people “ who are dreadful drivers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    We live on a rural road. The other day we met a young girl come around a blind bend on two wheels and then hurled abuse at us because she had to reverse to let us into a gate.

    She lives about 1km away so a neighbour of sorts. We called to the house and it took her a few minutes to face us. We explained that there was no need to abuse anyone, that the road is to be shared and that she drives too fast. She denied all, said I don't have to listen to this and closed the door. These people are mouthy until you're standing in front of them. As we drove off a sister of about 18 came running out to give us the V sign.

    Now if I had to describe the place it would be Onslow's garden from keeping up appearances but half an acre of scrap cars and junk lying everywhere and from what we seen its cleaner outside than inside.

    How do you reason with people who believe they own the road in their banger? I told my wife on the way in there's no talking to some parts of society.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Well, it would be simply untrue to suggest that there are no bad drivers on our roads, wouldn't it?

    It's pretty black and white to me. You either drive according to the rules of the road or you don't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭creedp




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭blackvalley




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    Of course it would be wrong to suggest that there are no bad drivers on our roads.

    However my point is that most people comment on discussions like this are self proclaimed “ good drivers “ giving out about “ people “

    Why do only “ good drivers “ post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭creedp


    It wouldnt be a very interesting motors forum if only people who couldn't give a shite about driving contributed. A bit like saying those on the IT forum couldn't switch on a computer to save their life



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    I’ve been driving for fifty years without ever being involved in a crash or accident of any sort so I don’t know if that makes me a lucky , good or poor driver. Of course that could all change tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    Must look back on my post and check where I suggested that “ only those who don’t give a sh#%e about driving should post.

    My point if you’d care to read it is that everyone thinks that they are a “ great driver “ and it’s all those “ other people “ who are bad drivers.

    Although we don’t want to admit it the standard of driving here is woeful by all of us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭dickdasr1234


    Ditto. A combination of all three, methinks!

    Being attentive is half the battle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    My original comment was made to call into question the habits of certain types of drivers on our roads, who's number appears to be on the increase.

    If being able to identify bad driving by others makes me a good driver, then so be it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭babyducklings1


    We used to have good billboard campaigns here about road safety and tv ads as well and people did listen and seemed to work. Don’t see much of it now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭dickdasr1234


    Abiding by the rules of the road in this country would allow you (if you were to go by road markings) to overtake on unsafe bends or partially unsighted by brows and dips. You could also legally drive (in certain locations) at speeds that no sensible person would contemplate.

    Conversely, the rules could prevent you from driving at perfectly sensible speeds on state-of-the-art roads and from overtaking (in certain locations) where it is perfectly safe to do so.

    Everyday single day I see a half-wit on his phone at 60pmh on the M50. To me, that merits at least a year off the road.

    Why do the Garda not have a facility for uploading dash-cam footage of dangerous driving? They are never going to police the roads with the necessary numbers.

    You can have all the rules and laws you like but it all becomes a bit of a farce in the absence of enforcement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    Thanks for identifying and clarifying my point where we all consider ourselves to be “ good drivers “



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭creedp


    Who said only those interested in driving 'should' post on a Motors Forum?

    Tbf coming on here and slagging off posters who have the temerity to call out poor driving habbits is unlikely to get a universally positive response.

    Is it your position that everybody on here is by default a poor driver or maybe its just the case that you think a few annonomous posters might be exaggerating their ability? In any case do you disagree that the examples of poor driving highlighted on this thread actually exist out there and it would be better for all road users if they were tackled?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,615 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    People speeding and being aggressive is really getting to me these days.

    I was parked outside a shop today, on a main road in a quiet enough town. A car pulled onto the main road, doing a safe enough speed, and some pr1ck already on the road, driving at speed had the audacity to drive up behind this fella and start flashing his lights.

    The speed limit is 30. There's speed bumps all over this place. Where the f"ck are you going that you think you're being delayed by some lad driving the limit?


    Another bug bear is constantly people changing lanes in traffic. Alright, fair enough sometime you need to, but the majority of time there is very little benefit.

    I often pick a few cars in different lanes when I'm in traffic and gauge who's going faster. It's very unusual to lose sight of a car, where it gets so far ahead by constantly changing lanes. Totally pointless.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Nowadays road safety is based on the likes of the RSA and AGS urging drivers not to break the law and at the same time giving school children hi-viz vests so they can be responsible for their own safety.

    If there was an actual desire to improve road safety then we would see some actual enforcement out there.



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