Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

BeerNut · 22-08-2019 02:35PM

L1011 wrote: »

Were some ridiculous reasons given at the time

Hogging the wifi and cluttering up the smoking area...

the beer revolu · 23-08-2019 11:22AM

My three local pubs all charge 50% the price of a pint for a half.

Last time I was in Dublin I found this fixed serving size really annoying. "Can I have a half a pint of x".
"No, it's served as a schooner"
At one point I ended up with a pint of something that I wanted a half of.

Buerhaus, Cork serves almost all its draught offerings in half, schooner or pint, all priced pro rata. (some less expensive beers only come in halves and pints, I think). It's not difficult math's to do this.

RasTa · 23-08-2019 12:28PM

No 1/3rd's?

Muahahaha · 23-08-2019 02:56PM

L1011 wrote: »

I'd need to find the article again but there was uproar when basically all Dublin pubs absolutely-not-as-a-cartel increased the extra for getting a half from one old penny back in the 60s. Were some ridiculous reasons given at the time but it was basically to make more money off people who regularly drank halfs

I remember in the 90's it was common enough to see women buy a pint of lager and ask for an empty half pint glass and then they would dump it in and drink from that.

the beer revolu wrote: »

Buerhaus, Cork serves almost all its draught offerings in half, schooner or pint, all priced pro rata. (some less expensive beers only come in halves and pints, I think). It's not difficult math's to do this.

AFAIK serving anything but a pint or half pint on draught contravenes rules set down by the Weights and Measures folk in Customs. The glasses are stamped on the base certifying the size of the glass . Maybe things have changed cause you see some restaurants serving what looks like 300-350ml beers. Id also question whether or not you're getting a full pint at festivals and concerts, wouldnt be surprised if they're serving 500ml rather than 568ml.

BeerNut · 23-08-2019 03:02PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

AFAIK serving anything but a pint or half pint on draught contravenes rules set down by the Weights and Measures folk in Customs

That was true for the UK up to about 2007 but has never been true for Ireland. You can serve beer here in any measure as long as what's advertised is what's served.

There are no "Weights and Measures folk in Customs".

n97 mini · 23-08-2019 04:36PM

BeerNut wrote: »

There are no "Weights and Measures folk in Customs".

No, but this is the equivalent here. You see their stickers with inspection dates on petrol pumps.
https://www.nsai.ie/legal-metrology/enforcement-information/

RasTa · 23-08-2019 04:39PM

Ireland has to be one of the worst places to drink in the EU. Anywhere else where you're not able to drink in a brewery taproom?

loyatemu · 23-08-2019 04:50PM

RasTa wrote: »

Ireland has to be one of the worst places to drink in the EU. Anywhere else where you're not able to drink in a brewery taproom?

I think you can now provided you've "taken a tour"

*points*
"mashtun, boiler, fermenter. Any questions?"

n97 mini · 23-08-2019 04:55PM

loyatemu wrote: »

I think you can now provided you've "taken a tour"

*points*
"mashtun, boiler, fermenter. Any questions?"

Still needs a licence, planning permission, various inspections and certificates. After that you have to close by 7pm. The only brewery that I think has applied for one is Black's.

L1011 · 23-08-2019 07:15PM

On the festival pints thing, I've taken a "glass" home once or twice to check and they were all 568ml. One I was convinced had to be dodgy as it looked so small

Shorter, wider, extremely thin material.

Would be totally legal to sell 500s if they said so of course.

Subcomandante Marcos · 23-08-2019 07:31PM

L1011 wrote: »

On the festival pints thing, I've taken a "glass" home once or twice to check and they were all 568ml. One I was convinced had to be dodgy as it looked so small

Shorter, wider, extremely thin material.

Would be totally legal to sell 500s if they said so of course.

GBB bars have been selling "2/3rd" measures in glasses that are graduated to half pints for years by claiming they're 2/3rds to the rim and they don't give a big head and have never been in trouble for it.

It's totally illegal but there's no enforcement.

L1011 · 23-08-2019 08:13PM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

GBB bars have been selling "2/3rd" measures in glasses that are graduated to half pints for years by claiming they're 2/3rds to the rim and they don't give a big head and have never been in trouble for it.

It's totally illegal but there's no enforcement.

It'll be difficult/definitely illegal to swipe one (they may sell them?) of those to check but such glasses exist - the CE mark on the glass should show the actual capacity to rim beside it. I have one here from a beer festival somewhere and it definitely holds the right amount.

Enforcement requires complaints.

rubadub · 23-08-2019 08:35PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Given all the claptrap from official Ireland about drinking, it's mad that you can be financially penalised for drinking less or drinking NA beer / soft drinks.

Yes, I would like to see them legally forced to sell half pints at half price to encourage more moderate drinking.

Technocentral wrote: »

Galway Bay bars charge half only for half pints too.

Have not been in one for a good while but this was not always the case, some drinks were half price and some were not, which I could not figure out.

Here is bull & castle. Some strange pricing, like the wicklow wolf and archway lager are 3.20/6.20 but guinness is 3.50/5.80. I guess they want to screw the guinness half pint people, and maybe encourage the drinking of beers people may not have tasted yet.

https://www.fxbuckley.ie/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/BC-003-Drinks-Downstairs-Jun.pdf

DRAUGHT Glass Pint
Buckley’s Pale Ale 3.50 5.80
Guinness 3.50 5.80
Heineken 3.50 6.10
O’Hara Stout 3.70 5.90
O’Hara Red 3.70 5.90
O’Hara IPA 3.70 5.90
Galway Hooker IPA 3.70 5.90
Orchard Thieves 3.70 6.60
Wicklow Wolf Lager 3.20 6.20
ArchWay Lager 3.20 6.20
Lagunitas IPA Glass 3.70 6.90
Estrella Galicia Larger 3.50 6.20

L1011 wrote: »

On the festival pints thing, I've taken a "glass" home once or twice to check and they were all 568ml. One I was convinced had to be dodgy as it looked so small.

This comes up an awful lot, without people testing them. It is often printed on the bottom too. A regular pint glass will usually go inwards at the top, the plastic ones are tapered out and there is a lot of beer in that top inch, or rather potential beer as they often will leave you short.

L1011 · 23-08-2019 08:53PM

rubadub wrote: »

This comes up an awful lot, without people testing them.

I've an engineering degree to justify :pac: (because I sure as feck don't use it in my actual job with Engineer in the title 99% of the time)

Idbatterim · 25-08-2019 01:10PM

Visited the one on abbey street for the first time last night. Very busy. E3.75 for a gin and tonic! In Dublin! What a joke !!! I think they also had three non alco beers for six euro etc. fantastic prices !

Cienciano · 26-08-2019 04:38PM

L1011 wrote: »

I'd need to find the article again but there was uproar when basically all Dublin pubs absolutely-not-as-a-cartel increased the extra for getting a half from one old penny back in the 60s. Were some ridiculous reasons given at the time but it was basically to make more money off people who regularly drank halfs

There was uproar about drink driving limits lowered, there was uproar about the smoking ban. Just imagine someone in power decided pints should actually be pints, so a marker on the glass at 568ml and the beer had to be to that level rather than the head. They'd be uproar again.

Sling12 · 03-09-2019 04:25PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

Visited the one on abbey street for the first time last night. Very busy. E3.75 for a gin and tonic! In Dublin! What a joke !!! I think they also had three non alco beers for six euro etc. fantastic prices !

Cant be denied....the prices are great....;)

maximoose · 05-09-2019 01:58PM

Anyone know what time Silver Penny starts serving?

slayerking · 05-09-2019 02:33PM

maximoose wrote: »

Anyone know what time Silver Penny starts serving?

AFAIK they open at 8am, only serving things like Breakfasts and coffees etc.

They'd only be able to start serving alcohol at the normal pub trading hours which is from 10:30 (12:30 on a Sunday due to mass :pac:)

wherearewe45 · 13-09-2019 04:26PM

Any word on a Wetherspoons coming to Limerick?

Muahahaha · 13-09-2019 04:33PM

Havent heard anything about Limerick but it wouldnt surprise me if they are actively looking for a site there given they're opening in Galway and Waterford

listermint · 13-09-2019 04:50PM

wherearewe45 wrote: »

Any word on a Wetherspoons coming to Limerick?

Hopefully not, Its a soulless kip run by an ardent hard brexit manipulator. A man who wants to see his country dive into recession so it pushes punters through his doors.

Chelon · 13-09-2019 04:51PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Havent heard anything about Limerick but it wouldnt surprise me if they are actively looking for a site there given they're opening in Galway and Waterford

Where in Galway?

Chelon · 13-09-2019 04:52PM

listermint wrote: »

Hopefully not, Its a soulless kip run by an ardent hard brexit manipulator. A man who wants to see his country dive into recession so it pushes punters through his doors.

That's a take I hadn't heard before, got me thinking lol

Still like their ales though

L1011 · 13-09-2019 06:38PM

Chelon wrote: »

Where in Galway?

Former GPO nightclub

Muahahaha · 13-09-2019 06:55PM

Chelon wrote: »

Where in Galway?

Former Carbon nightclub on Eglington St
https://www.thejournal.ie/wetherspoon-carbon-galway-4726961-Jul2019/

listermint · 13-09-2019 10:27PM

Chelon wrote: »

That's a take I hadn't heard before, got me thinking lol

Still like their ales though

Can dispute the beer. But the man's an absymal character.

I'd prefer they didn't flourish here tbh. They're a horrible place to be in the UK.

https://www.cityam.com/wetherspoons-boss-tim-martin-slams-elite-remainers-as-profit-sinks/

Here he is pissed off as his profits dive. Genius that fella.....

Vic_08 · 13-09-2019 10:45PM

listermint wrote: »

Can dispute the beer. But the man's an absymal character.

I'd prefer they didn't flourish here tbh. They're a horrible place to be in the UK.

https://www.cityam.com/wetherspoons-boss-tim-martin-slams-elite-remainers-as-profit-sinks/

Here he is pissed off as his profits dive. Genius that fella.....

Agree his Brexit shyte is off-putting but I'd rather he made cents on my pint than the Irish pub barons make euros on it.

Tim Martin sticks his head above the parapet so is ripe for criticism but lets be honest, do you really think most of the owners of Irish pub chains are likely to be wonderful skins using their profits for the common good either?

RasTa · 14-09-2019 12:27PM

They are even selling Kombacha now for £1.50. I paid £3 last time in a shop. Doing another stunt in the UK on the 19th. Something about wanting to pay the same tax as supermarkets so lowering there prices 10% or some rubbish.

Went in before my flight yesterday at around 6ish and was hard to find a table in a 200 table place.

conor678 · 14-09-2019 12:29PM

Sorry I strongly disagree with the sentiment about his business failing. From living in the UK every Wetherspoons I pass or visit is packed. They open numerous locations in empty town centre locations often doing excellent jobs revamping old buildings while offering excellent value for money.

Taking the politics out of it and being objective its a very successful model and will be a success in Ireland.

Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

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