Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake

Tazzimus · 12-09-2019 12:54PM

I must have been one of the only ones that actually didn't hate XIII :pac:
Tried XIII-2 and never bothered with XIII-3

I still hold X as my favourite one, looking forward to this though, as I wasn't mad on the original VII.

Vicxas · 12-09-2019 12:55PM

Tazzimus wrote: »

I must have been one of the only ones that actually didn't hate XIII :pac:
Tried XIII-2 and never bothered with XIII-3

I still hold X as my favourite one, looking forward to this though, as I wasn't mad on the original VII.

XIII was the straw that broke the camels back. I had enough of the whingy androgynous men children and had to give it a break.

Retr0gamer · 12-09-2019 12:58PM

It's a shame so many people never played FFXIII-3 as even though it's got a bad story it's just so much fun to play. It's pretty much a sequel to the 'Secret best PS1 RPG (tm)' Valkyrie Profile.

Also had a lot of fun with FXIII-2

I actually feel FFX is one of the weaker FF games. Loved it at the time but playing the HD remaster and it makes an awful lot of the same mistakes FFXIII made. Pretty graphics excuse a lot.

NoviGlitzko · 12-09-2019 01:07PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I actually feel FFX is one of the weaker FF games. Loved it at the time but playing the HD remaster and it makes an awful lot of the same mistakes FFXIII made. Pretty graphics excuse a lot.

FFX was linear in some aspects but the immersive world around it made you forget that. XIII on the other hand was like tying you to the front of a runaway train going from hallway A to hallway B.

Retr0gamer · 12-09-2019 01:48PM

I don't know. Found it didn't hold on revisiting it. The dungeons are too long and linear and the encounter rate too high. Once you know how to beat each enemy formation in an area you are just repeating the same tactics which is how ff13 feels.

Ff13 is much worse of course but I think ffx gets too much of a free pass because it looked gorgeous on launch and was the first decent ps2 rpg. It's got loads of flaws including the gameplay loop I just went through and a terrible and very rushed end game where all the end game gear is obtained from mini games rather than mastery of the core gameplay.

Tazzimus · 12-09-2019 02:01PM

I had great fun/frustration with the Dark Aeon hunt and the Monster Arena concoctions (**** you, Dark Yojimbo).
Although I gave up on dodging 200 lightning bolts for Lulu's celestial weapon, that annoyed the piss out of me.

By the time I got to fight Jecht, I could kill him with one hit.

Blitzball was oddly entertaining as well.

Evade · 12-09-2019 02:11PM

Vicxas wrote: »

XIII was the straw that broke the camels back. I had enough of the whingy androgynous men children and had to give it a break.

Who was androgynous in FF13?

Retr0gamer · 12-09-2019 02:13PM

Well I think square basically said they made lightning to be a Cloud that male cloud fans would feel uncomfortable about fancying

Evade · 12-09-2019 02:18PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Well I think square basically said they made lightning to be a Cloud that male cloud fans would feel uncomfortable about fancying

But she's clearly a woman.

Vicxas · 12-09-2019 02:25PM

Evade wrote: »

Who was androgynous in FF13?

This whiny pain in the arse:

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Evade · 12-09-2019 02:29PM

If you say so. Looks like a boy to me.

Retr0gamer · 12-09-2019 02:32PM

Tazzimus wrote: »

I had great fun/frustration with the Dark Aeon hunt and the Monster Arena concoctions (**** you, Dark Yojimbo).
Although I gave up on dodging 200 lightning bolts for Lulu's celestial weapon, that annoyed the piss out of me.

By the time I got to fight Jecht, I could kill him with one hit.

Blitzball was oddly entertaining as well.

Dark Aeons weren't part of the original game. They were only added to the international version, which Europe got. Penance was the last boss and he had 10 times less health than the original release.

pixelburp · 12-09-2019 02:32PM

And all this conversation about FF and its androgynous leads is going to get even more awkward if the Don Corneo section is translated verbatim from the original Ps1 version

Varik · 12-09-2019 02:33PM

Don't remember Hope being whiny, went on about vengeance and all but don't see much of the whiny Japanese protagonist in him.

Tazzimus · 12-09-2019 02:46PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Dark Aeons weren't part of the original game. They were only added to the international version, which Europe got. Penance was the last boss and he had 10 times less health than the original release.

He's still no pushover

Either is Nemesis from the Monster Arena.

I enjoyed the game anyway

Retr0gamer · 13-09-2019 07:42AM

Tazzimus wrote: »

He's still no pushover
Either is Nemesis from the Monster Arena.

I enjoyed the game anyway

I meant Nemesis. Penance was another international addition.

Vicxas · 13-09-2019 08:43AM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I meant Nemesis. Penance was another international addition.

Never got to fight Penance as i could never manage to kill Dark Bahamut. Yojimbo just never sliced him in 2 for me.

RedXIV · 13-09-2019 02:50PM

What do you reckon the odds are the the demo being shown at E3, PAX and now TGS will make it to the online store at some point?

Playstation Access have a full walkthrough of the demo but I'd rather not watch it if there is a chance of playing it at some point.

Video is below for those interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osEEQLSE6ng

RedXIV · 14-09-2019 11:37AM

Not really surprised they've added this considering how vocal the crowd who wanted "PRETTIER TURN BASED BATTLES!"

This was shown last night as part of the TGS walkthrough of FF7Remake, few other small things shown, for example, you can only equip one summon per character, they appear kinda similar to FFX aeons in that they show up, fight with you and then as they are timed with a bar, they perform signature move before they disappear.

Full walkthrough by Kitase is here if people want to watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxryETMIesI

panevthe3rd · 14-09-2019 05:07PM

RedXIV wrote: »

Not really surprised they've added this considering how vocal the crowd who wanted "PRETTIER TURN BASED BATTLES!"

This was shown last night as part of the TGS walkthrough of FF7Remake, few other small things shown, for example, you can only equip one summon per character, they appear kinda similar to FFX aeons in that they show up, fight with you and then as they are timed with a bar, they perform signature move before they disappear.

Full walkthrough by Kitase is here if people want to watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxryETMIesI

I thought they showed the ATB system turn based stuff months ago. Or maybe I misunderstood how it was supposed to work and thought they showed a turn based system.

Tazzimus · 14-09-2019 07:51PM

RedXIV wrote: »

Not really surprised they've added this considering how vocal the crowd who wanted "PRETTIER TURN BASED BATTLES!"

This was shown last night as part of the TGS walkthrough of FF7Remake, few other small things shown, for example, you can only equip one summon per character, they appear kinda similar to FFX aeons in that they show up, fight with you and then as they are timed with a bar, they perform signature move before they disappear.

Full walkthrough by Kitase is here if people want to watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxryETMIesI

That sounds more like the FFXII ones. FFX Aeons were like another character and only left if their health was gone or you dismissed them.

15-09-2019 07:19PM

Tell me that you don't control the summons, during the fight. Please let them arrive, cause destruction, and leave

Edit: Ah fvck, I posted this from watching the trailer a few pages back and no see it all but confirmed

Sonics2k · 15-09-2019 10:43PM

lordlame · 25-09-2019 11:59PM

New video up with the alps battle - bit more ifrit action ( 5 mins long )

https://youtu.be/R13Wx49ux5w

ZiabR · 26-09-2019 07:20AM

Anyone got any links to videos showing the "Classic Mode". I have no interest in moving and attacking with my characters. I am an old school FF gamer having finished 6,7,8,9,10,12 and 13. Didn't like 12 for the same reasons.

For me FF is all about story and clicking commands to initiate attacks etc.

Very interested in FF7 remake but only in classic mode.

Varik · 26-09-2019 10:06AM

Way people were talking about it I thought that the summon replace the 3 characters and then you'd use them like in 10. Like this, and it'll be cool to be playing while the summon is there standing tall above you.

ahnowbrowncow · 26-09-2019 11:54AM

From the videos the battles take awhile and enemies have lots of HP, hope this isn't just to prolong the game.

pixelburp · 26-09-2019 12:37PM

I must be getting old cos I couldn't keep track of that battle. So much visual noise and clutter going on it just looked like total chaos to me

26-09-2019 12:51PM

I actively disliked the battle system in FF:XV and this looks like more of the same.
Hoping that there really is a good ATB classic system in there to use, playing Battle Chasers at the moment and I like being able to control the game in turn based.

That clip just looks like a CG vomit.

Tazzimus · 26-09-2019 01:07PM

Yeah FF should be turn based, so classic mode should be fine for me.
Don't like how the Aeon is there with you, it should be like X where they take over from your party and do a bit of one on one.
Still undecided if I like the look of Ifrit as well.

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