Journalism and cycling

Tombo2001 · 06-09-2019 12:19pm

Boom.
Snap!

magicbastarder · 06-09-2019 12:19pm

great minds, etc.

magicbastarder · 06-09-2019 12:20pm

i've tweeted the journalist to point out that the headline makes a mockery of most of the content in the article.

Grassey · 06-09-2019 12:20pm

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All bike lanes in Dublin will be open 24 hours a day and at weekends “within a year or two,” a city councillor said.

Many cycle lanes are closed from 7pm to 7am and on weekends. Cycling campaigners have said that people cycle all the time, so lanes should not close.

Gary Gannon, a Social Democrats councillor for Cabra-Glasnevin, put forward a question to the chief executive at this week’s council meeting “to open - on a 24-hour basis - all cycling lanes within the Dublin city council area.”

Tombo2001 · 06-09-2019 12:20pm

Anyone see the letters page yesterday - about how the 'idiots' using e-scooters are as bad as the ones on 'ordinary bicycles'.

Janey mack - its like Boris and Brexit - as if they really want to corner this market and own it.

Tombo2001 · 06-09-2019 12:22pm

Genuinely - is car traffic even 1% of total traffic on Liffey Street - and yet is allocated 50% of the capacity.

magicbastarder · 06-09-2019 12:23pm

Grassey wrote: »

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all well and good, but a pointless gesture unless they're policed.

mr spuckler · 06-09-2019 12:23pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

what's going on in the irish times? are the subeditors revolting? what a bizarre headline to use for the article.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/new-liffey-street-plaza-eliminating-traffic-kills-businesses-1.4009019#.XXI-B1WpOOQ.twitter

They use a quote from an American tourist and frame it as a representative opinion? Wow, just wow.

Mickiemcfist · 06-09-2019 12:52pm

Tombo2001 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/new-liffey-street-plaza-eliminating-traffic-kills-businesses-1.4009019

The Irish Times does a vox pop on the pedestrianisation of Liffey Street area.

No surprises for which side they lean towards with the headline.

Why of course - eliminating the 50 people an hour that drive down Liffey Street will 'kill businesses'.

By this logic of course, we should allow cars back down Grafton Street and Henry Street - maybe just cut out the footpaths instead.

Couldnt make it up.

The funny thing is that the journalist is quite clearly in favour of the idea & totally at odds with the headline.

mr spuckler · 06-09-2019 12:55pm

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

The funny thing is that the journalist is quite clearly in favour of the idea & totally at odds with the headline.

That's happened a couple of times recently with similar stories in the IT...

magicbastarder · 06-09-2019 12:56pm

headline has changed, but still from one of the anti-pedestrianisation people.

Eamonnator · 06-09-2019 1:07pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

what's going on in the irish times? are the subeditors revolting? what a bizarre headline to use for the article.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/new-liffey-street-plaza-eliminating-traffic-kills-businesses-1.4009019#.XXI-B1WpOOQ.twitter

The man called James sounds like a real diamond!

Stark · 06-09-2019 2:50pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

The man called James sounds like a real diamond!

He wouldn't sound out of place as a guest priest on Father Ted.

AndrewJRenko · 06-09-2019 2:52pm

Stark wrote: »

Eamonnator wrote: »

The man called James sounds like a real diamond!

He wouldn't sound out of place as a guest priest on Father Ted.

I think I've seen his posts here from time to time

Seth Brundle · 06-09-2019 3:00pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I think I've seen his posts here from time to time

I'd put a tenner on it that he regularly adds to the comments section on theJournal.ie

Tombo2001 · 06-09-2019 4:55pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

I'd put a tenner on it that he regularly adds to the comments section on theJournal.ie

To be fair to The Journal

Leaving aside the comments sections which I suppose they are not responsible for....... I think its own coverage of cycling and cyclists has been reasonably benign.

work · 07-09-2019 1:31am

The Irish Times deserves to be continually slated for its poor journalism and anti-cycling propaganda.
...A guy called James.....wow high brow journalism.....oh but give out about cyclists and we will print it!!
Then the letters section...idiot e scooter and bicyclists...etc...what a load of crap.
Personally I have online subscription for the IT and have two hard copy subs for two placed of work, for customers. IT I am getting very close to cancelling the lot as The Journal is less Biased and the journalist quality is getting similar.
Shame on them with this campaign of hate and victim blaming of cyclists!

tomasrojo · 07-09-2019 2:11am

They'd hate to hear it, I imagine, but when it comes to the fight to maintain urban driving and urban car parking capacity at the expense of everyone else, they're the Daily Mail.

tomasrojo · 07-09-2019 9:17am

This isn't quite the same, as it's not an editorial, but really ...
https://twitter.com/ellenmcoyne/status/1169154810014326791

tomasrojo · 07-09-2019 9:23am

(Also, not cycling, obviously.)

magicbastarder · 07-09-2019 9:55am

tomasrojo wrote: »

They'd hate to hear it, I imagine, but when it comes to the fight to maintain urban driving and urban car parking capacity at the expense of everyone else, they're the Daily Mail.

it's about clicks. their 'web editor' (or whatever the job title is these days) seems far more clickbaity - unsurprisingly - than the print edition would suggest.

https://twitter.com/fergalreid/status/1170244253072728066

magicbastarder · 09-09-2019 4:45pm

i don't know when they'll be talking about it, but it was just mentioned on drivetime on radio 1, that they will be discussing 'whether we should be spending 10% of transport budget on cycle lanes and subsidising e-bikes'.

magicbastarder · 09-09-2019 4:52pm

on now. damian o'tuama is in the studio, and weirdly it's not an adversarial piece, it's just him.

mr spuckler · 09-09-2019 4:58pm

Neil Fox and Ciaran Cannon along with Conor Faughnan on the radio with Sean O'Rourke this morning.
https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/#/radio1/21616484

Good piece, positive & strong contribution from Conor Faughnan too.

The texts though

work · 09-09-2019 7:10pm

mr spuckler wrote: »

Neil Fox and Ciaran Cannon along with Conor Faughnan on the radio with Sean O'Rourke this morning.
https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/#/radio1/21616484

Good piece, positive & strong contribution from Conor Faughnan too.

The texts though

Very good thanks for putting that up. Some drivers will not be happy with Conor Faughan, no blaming cyclists, no vilifying cyclists. Well done RTE on this and the stupid texts were just that...Bikes shouldn't be allowed use roads or the path, classic.

It was probably respectful as Donna Fox's anniversary but fair dues. Her brother come across very well.
The new legislation sounds good and might help with the thread on "near misses". For those that didn't hear the piece the Garda will be able to prosecute simply on dangerous overtaking cyclists as a specific charge.

magicbastarder · 09-09-2019 8:40pm

The future is four wheels, cyclists be damned
https://theoutline.com/post/7919/vision-zero-bike-deaths-nyc-2019

Duckjob · 09-09-2019 9:32pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

The future is four wheels, cyclists be damned
https://theoutline.com/post/7919/vision-zero-bike-deaths-nyc-2019

Very good article. Hits the nail on the head about cities getting the type of population they build for.

droidus · 09-09-2019 9:57pm

has this been posted previously?

Cyclists Are Better Drivers Than Motorists, Finds Study

Cyclists who drive are better behind the steering wheel than motorists, a new analysis has found. The link between cycling and safer motoring was revealed by a UK insurance firm which offers specialist motor insurance policies for cyclists. This analysis correlates with an earlier study which found that cyclist-drivers tend to have faster reaction times than non-cyclists...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2018/10/09/cyclists-are-better-drivers-than-motorists-finds-study/?fbclid=IwAR2zCyyxMAaKaS8m9CTj0j4KffgkFOV7dCQgWWnnvYYpAiILx6GhDlvhT-Q#31b17d9d6f6c

AndrewJRenko · 09-09-2019 10:09pm

work wrote: »

Well done RTE on this and the stupid texts were just that...Bikes shouldn't be allowed use roads or the path, classic.

I wonder would RTE actually read out stupid texts if the issue was a race issue or a religious issue? There doesn't seem to be any filter/decency mechanism when it comes to cycling.

CramCycle · 10-09-2019 12:26am

droidus wrote: »

has this been posted previously?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2018/10/09/cyclists-are-better-drivers-than-motorists-finds-study/?fbclid=IwAR2zCyyxMAaKaS8m9CTj0j4KffgkFOV7dCQgWWnnvYYpAiILx6GhDlvhT-Q#31b17d9d6f6c

I imagine that would fit in nicely with work on F1 driver reaction times. Fascinating work years ago that showed that reactions, trained ones, actually took a short cut through the brain (laymen's terms here). I can well imagine that regular cyclists have a similar trained reaction. My thinking on it was different than the researchers, they proposed quicker reaction times, I felt it indictated that training meant you had to work through less possible reactions, hence the quicker arrival time to a reaction, also the training meant that , from experience, you reacted to the logical scenario, even in illogical circumstances.

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