Lawn ruined by cattle - advice

Ginger83 · 06-09-2019 12:35PM #1

Hi a farmer has a field rented beside us and his cattle have broken into ours.

He says he does not have insurance, any advice?

freedominacup · 06-09-2019 12:38PM

Ginger83 wrote: »

Hi a farmer has a field rented beside us and his cattle have broken into ours.

He says he does not have insurance, any advice?

He should have insurance. How big is the lawn? How much damage?

Ginger83 · 06-09-2019 01:16PM

freedominacup wrote: »

He should have insurance. How big is the lawn? How much damage?

1/2 Acre ruined, robot getting stuck everywhere.

He says he has insurance on his farm but not this rented field.

SmartinMartin · 06-09-2019 01:18PM

Get a quote to fix the damage, then ask him to pay up. If he doesn't, off to the small claims court with you.

hopeso · 06-09-2019 01:19PM

If his cattle broke in, it's his responsibility to repair any damage, regardless of his insurance, or lack of it.... The first step you should take is to photograph all the damage, in case it ends up being a drawn out process

patsy_mccabe · 06-09-2019 01:22PM

Ginger83 wrote: »

1/2 Acre ruined, robot getting stuck everywhere.

He says he has insurance on his farm but not this rented field.

Real first world problem.

freedominacup · 06-09-2019 01:24PM

Ginger83 wrote: »

1/2 Acre ruined, robot getting stuck everywhere.

He says he has insurance on his farm but not this rented field.

I would think he's chancing his arm. I don't remember ever specifying parcels and we've had a couple of lawn claims over the years. Can lead to a bit of a bump in your premium for a couple of years maybe he's trying to avoid that.

D3V!L · 06-09-2019 01:25PM

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freedominacup · 06-09-2019 01:26PM

SmartinMartin wrote: »

Get a quote to fix the damage, then ask him to pay up. If he doesn't, off to the small claims court with you.

Problem is the small claims court won't cover a landscaper reinstating a .5 acre lawn.

endainoz · 06-09-2019 01:26PM

If it's a half acre, it should be accessible easily enough by a tractor? Every farmer has a roller, surely he'll just roll it for you and the ground will have recovered by next spring. Also maybe sell the robot and let some wild flowers grow.

Mango Joe · 06-09-2019 01:28PM

I have personal experience where a person will be an insufferable bo**ocks and hope that you'll f off and pay for this yourself.

At the end off the day the Land Owner is making money renting the land

This Farmer is making money farming the land.

One or both of them is saving money by skipping on the annual insurance cost.

- Please do not be one bit shy about asserting yourself and making it very clear you expect this serious damage to be put right or you'll take whatever action is required.

endainoz wrote: »

If it's a half acre, it should be accessible easily enough by a tractor? Every farmer has a roller, surely he'll just roll it for you and the ground will have recovered by next spring. Also maybe sell the robot and let some wild flowers grow.

Its a lawn which 99.9% of Irish families have - These robots are increasingly common, don't be making inappropriate judgements on a basis of small-minded nonsense.

- Why don't you dig up your kitchen tiles and let wild flowers grow? What a comment...... Seriously.

Ginger83 · 06-09-2019 01:30PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Real first world problem.

Actually it is......I invested thousands in my lawns and a robot because i have motor neurone disease and cannot cut the grass.......but joke away

Ginger83 · 06-09-2019 01:33PM

endainoz wrote: »

If it's a half acre, it should be accessible easily enough by a tractor? Every farmer has a roller, surely he'll just roll it for you and the ground will have recovered by next spring. Also maybe sell the robot and let some wild flowers grow.

It was done by a landscaper so it will be repaired by 1

endainoz · 06-09-2019 01:33PM

Mango Joe wrote:

Its a lawn which 99.9% of Irish families have - These robots are increasingly common, don't be making inappropriate judgements on a basis of small-minded nonsense.

Jesus I'd say youd be a great neighbour.

Mango Joe · 06-09-2019 01:34PM

Ginger83 wrote: »

Actually it is......I invested thousands in my lawns and a robot because i have motor neurone disease and cannot cut the grass.......but joke away

Ah would you be not be fair......? He was hardly having a pop at people with long term illnesses or disabilities now was he?

I think it was a mildly humorous and inoffensive comment with not an ounce of bad intention.

Having our lawns cut by robots is quickly becoming more affordable and common but it still sounds outlandish and would have been unheard of until relatively recently, hence the comment.

endainoz · 06-09-2019 01:34PM

Ginger83 wrote:

Actually it is......I invested thousands in my lawns and a robot because i have motor neurone disease and cannot cut the grass.......but joke away

Is it not an option to ask him to roll it no?

Ginger83 · 06-09-2019 01:40PM

Mango Joe wrote: »

Ah would you be not be fair......? He was hardly having a pop at people with long term illnesses or disabilities now was he?

I think it was a mildly humorous and inoffensive comment with not an ounce of bad intention.

Having our lawns cut by robots is quickly becoming more affordable and common but it still sounds outlandish and would have been unheard of until relatively recently, hence the comment.

I suppose so, I am just sick of miserable farmers that wont fence off their lands

Ginger83 · 06-09-2019 01:41PM

endainoz wrote: »

Is it not an option to ask him to roll it no?

no

grassroot1 · 06-09-2019 01:51PM

Ginger83 wrote: »

Actually it is......I invested thousands in my lawns and a robot because i have motor neurone disease and cannot cut the grass.......but joke away

I think you are over reacting to Patsy's comment think the point is the robot is becoming more and more popular.
We understand how upsetting it is to have your property damaged and we certainly do not make little of your disease.

grassroot1 · 06-09-2019 01:53PM

Ginger83 wrote: »

I suppose so, I am just sick of miserable farmers that wont fence off their lands

One "farmer" not all of us..... I expect that's what you meant

Ginger83 · 06-09-2019 01:54PM

grassroot1 wrote: »

I think you are over reacting to Patsy's comment think the point is the robot is becoming more and more popular.
We understand how upsetting it is to have your property damaged and we certainly do not make little of your disease.

I over reacted no offence intended

Ginger83 · 06-09-2019 01:56PM

grassroot1 wrote: »

One "farmer" not all of us..... I expect that's what you meant

Plenty but not all.

Mooooo · 06-09-2019 02:00PM

Take a picture, get a quote to fix it. Send this on to him. His responsibility regardless of insurance cover

whelan2 · 06-09-2019 02:02PM

Hi is the field adjoining your lawn or did the cattle come up the road into it. Is there a risk of them breaking in again. Wouldn't be getting it fixed up until they are properly fenced in

06-09-2019 02:04PM

Happened to me a few months ago when cattle came into my garden. Got a quotation to fix the lawn/broken hedges and presented farmer with cost. They paid up, and we got the lawn repaired. Farmer has since put in electrical fencing. It's not a question of insurance, if they are responsible they are liable. Take care OP and enjoy your garden.

Ginger83 · 06-09-2019 02:05PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Hi is the field adjoining your lawn or did the cattle come up the road into it. Is there a risk of them breaking in again. Wouldn't be getting it fixed up until they are properly fenced in

Joined to us, not fenced at all.

CrankyHaus · 06-09-2019 02:05PM

You're being fobbed off. He's liable for damage caused by roaming cattle. Whether he's insured or not is irrelevant. He probably is and just doesn't want his premium affected. As soon as things escalate he'll most likely involve his insurance, he's just hoping he can fob you off and it won't get that far.

Don't be afraid to get an insurance assessor to help you deal with him or his insurance company if it's worth it. They may lowball you otherwise.

What was and is the condition of the fence and who repaired it after the cattle left? If there was no fence insist upon one, adequate to restrain cattle, being installed.

Ginger83 · 06-09-2019 02:06PM

Sunnyspot wrote: »

Happened to me a few months ago when cattle came into my garden. Got a quotation to fix the lawn/broken hedges and presented farmer with cost. They paid up, and we got the lawn repaired. Farmer has since put in electrical fencing. It's not a question of insurance, if they are responsible they are liable. Take care OP and enjoy your garden.

Thank you

hopeso · 06-09-2019 02:08PM

We've established that the farmer has no insurance, but what's his attitude aside from that? Is he accepting any responsibility for what happened, and the costs involved?

orm0nd · 06-09-2019 02:11PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Take a picture, get a quote to fix it. Send this on to him. His responsibility regardless of insurance cover

+1

if he's still stalling send him a solicitor's letter ,

if as he says he hasn't PL insurance cover he's an utter idiot/

Ginger83 · 06-09-2019 02:12PM

CrankyHaus wrote: »

You're being fobbed off. He's liable for damage caused by roaming cattle. Whether he's insured or not is irrelevant. He probably is and just doesn't want his premium affected. As soon as things escalate he'll most likely involve his insurance, he's just hoping he can fob you off and it won't get that far.

Don't be afraid to get an insurance assessor to help you deal with him or his insurance company if it's worth it. They may lowball you otherwise.

What was and is the condition of the fence and who repaired it after the cattle left?

We were fobbed off before and had to fix ourselves.

Some sort of white tape

Lawn ruined by cattle - advice

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