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10 year old Diesel car lack /high cost of Insurance / low resell value to Petrol & E

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  • 31-08-2019 2:18pm
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    bunderoon
    Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭


    Anyone affected by this yet?


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    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Going on the 2008 diesel boom, loads of people I'd imagine. There's not going to be any schemes to assist other than *maybe* a scrappage one specifically for electrics. And that's only if brexit doesn't cost the state loads, and they are stuck for domestic carbon emissions changes


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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,872 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    10 year old cars were worth feck all in this country before diesels went in and out of fashion. Look at the price of a car on the continent and then find an Irish, or UK, car and see how much less its worth here vs the continent.

    Its our age related plates which cause the low value, we have plenty of older cars insured no bother in my family.


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    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Older cars should be cheaper than newer cars. It drops off a cliff becuase of "expensive" tax. Insurance for me hasn't been an issue with the age profile of any cars I've had over the last 2 years. 1 of which was about 14 years old too...


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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Del2005 wrote: »
    10 year old cars were worth feck all in this country before diesels went in and out of fashion. Look at the price of a car on the continent and then find an Irish, or UK, car and see how much less its worth here vs the continent.

    Its our age related plates which cause the low value, we have plenty of older cars insured no bother in my family.

    It's the tax and now getting the insurance that's the issue.

    The cars themselves are fine, and would happily work up to 20yrs+.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    Xterminator
    Registered Users Posts: 4,717 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    galwaytt wrote: »
    It's the tax and now getting the insurance that's the issue..

    No, i would suggest its the inefficient use of fossil fuels and pollution that is the problem. the tax is used as a carrot and stick approach to wean you off your vehicular "cigarettes".


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    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,664 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Xterminator wrote: »
    No, i would suggest its the inefficient use of fossil fuels and pollution that is the problem. the tax is used as a carrot and stick approach to wean you off your vehicular "cigarettes".

    Bull. That's the current "trendy" reason, but the real reason is our motor "industry" wanting to constantly shift new(er) cars, and an insurance sector with no effective oversight.

    There's no reason a 10/12+ year old car shouldn't be able to be run cost-effectively so long as the taxes are and paid and NCT is valid. It's certainly better for de bunnies and tress than scrapping and replacing them unnecessarily.


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    Xterminator
    Registered Users Posts: 4,717 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Bull. That's the current "trendy" reason,

    Tell that to the residents of the bahamas.


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    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,307 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Bull. That's the current "trendy" reason, but the real reason is our motor "industry" wanting to constantly shift new(er) cars, and an insurance sector with no effective oversight.
    and the irish motorist wanting to constantly buy newer cars too, surely? i think i read this week that the value of car loans issued in the last year was the highest ever. of *course* the motor industry wants to constantly shift new cars, it's the main reason for their existence.

    also, with insurance (and i'm not defending the insurance industry here), a significant cost of your premium is irrelevant to the value of your own car; it's insuring you against damage to other motorists and cars.


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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,872 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Xterminator wrote: »
    No, i would suggest its the inefficient use of fossil fuels and pollution that is the problem. the tax is used as a carrot and stick approach to wean you off your vehicular "cigarettes".

    Is scrapping a viable vehicle and replacing it with another slightly less polluting vehicle a good use of resources though? Just because it's fuel is going out of fashion it doesn't mean that the vehicle to replace it will make the world better, if it doesn't last twice as long as the vehicle it's replacing how is it improving the environment?


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