GW 5 transfer thread

Chesty08 · 02-09-2019 10:30pm

Ace2007 wrote: »

His team is actually in decent enough shape, without having to make major changes.

Clean sheets are at a premium this season, so having Ryan isn't that big of an issue imo, could get Pope in for run of fixtures, but they haven't kept a CS yet, whereas Brighton have.

Defence - VVD and Lundstram both play so no issue there. Coleman has 2 CS from 4 games, in a season where CS are at a premium, he's doing ok, so don't think there is any rush to get rid of him. Hanley may be injured but more than likely will get his place back so should keep him. Rico - well he was never in anyone's long term plans of playing anyway? So only really need to transfer one defender.

Midfield - Salah, KdB, Sterling - all good. Ceballos has played well, and good easily have got a goal yesterday, at 5.5m I wouldn't be rushing to get rid of him. Possible could upgrade to the likes of James, if worried about game time of Ceballos, but it's not urgent. Dedoncker @ 4.5m - well your probably not going to be playing him, or be expecting much from him. so no pressing issue, except maybe upgrading Ceballos.

Forwards - Aguero all good. Greenwood - he's a bench fodder who will always get mins for united, he more than likely won't be startling in the league in the coming months, unless gets goals in other cup games. Again @ 4.5m what do you expect? King - Bournemouth have great fixtures coming up, and King is on penalties.

So all in all, you probably need one defender, and maybe upgrade a player in midfield/or downgrade to a playing 4.5m player and upgrade King to Barnes/Pukki/Abraham/Haller/Wilson/Jimenez/Kean

I think playing a WC would be a waste, you already have the likes of Aguero/Sterling/Salah/KdB/VVD.

Having Greenwood, Hanley & Rico means he will have to play Dedoncker who doesn’t looked nailed on for 2 points.

You can make cases for most players as that is why we choose them in the first place but by and large

Ryan, Dedoncker, Coleman, Ceballos & King should all be moved on along with the 3 dead woods on his bench.

Ace2007 · 02-09-2019 11:20pm

Chesty08 wrote: »

Having Greenwood, Hanley & Rico means he will have to play Dedoncker who doesn’t looked nailed on for 2 points.

You can make cases for most players as that is why we choose them in the first place but by and large

Ryan, Dedoncker, Coleman, Ceballos & King should all be moved on along with the 3 dead woods on his bench.

But why?

Coleman has 2 CS so far this season - what more was expected of him after 4 games? You expecting him to be scoring?

Likewise Ryan he’s a cheap keeper - who do you purpose he is replaced by?

He can easy sell dendocker for Hayden or Stephens or another 4.5 mid that plays.

Have you seen ceballos play? Folk on here are very quick to buy and sell players after one/two games - the guy is really good and will get scores, and is a good price.

The majority of teams in the league and even on boards will have at least two of the dead wood players that you speak of. You want a bench that will get you a point or two if needed, not a bench that you will always leave goals behind surely?

So in essence the OP, may have 2/3 moves and so it’s not wild card territory imo.

As Parlance said many players would be happy to wildcard to that team,

basillarkin · 03-09-2019 12:10am

need to get kun and barnes in, halller and vardy will have to go for this, also will need to reconstruct the midfield slightly

Wisesmurf · 03-09-2019 10:32am

Trying to keep competitive in a fairly meaty money league and currently top 5.
Managed to resist the Pukki train and a good number of others have done a WC
I've rotated Kane, Auba and Aguero to good effect with transfers.

Current team:

Pope (Button)
Robbertson , TAA, Zinchenko, Kelly (Lundstram)
Bernardo S, James, Salah, Dendonker (Perez)
Aguero, Vardy (Greenwood)

WC Team:

Pope (Ryan)
Robbertson , TAA, Zinchenko, Kelly (Hanley)
Mount, James, Salah, Pulisic (Cantwell)
Aguero, Abraham (Barnes)

I want to get rid of the dead wood that i've been hiding so far and players I think have run their course:
Button, Perez - Vardy/Lundstram/Bernardo

Thoughts on below? I'm half thinking of not doing the WC yet but I think CHE players are a must

PARlance · 03-09-2019 11:19am

Wisesmurf wrote: »

WC Team:

Pope (Ryan)
Robbertson , TAA, Zinchenko, Kelly (Hanley)
Mount, James, Salah, Pulisic (Cantwell)
Aguero, Abraham (Barnes)

I want to get rid of the dead wood that i've been hiding so far and players I think have run their course:
Button, Perez - Vardy/Lundstram/Bernardo

Thoughts on below? I'm half thinking of not doing the WC yet but I think CHE players are a must

You've got it listed as 4-4-2 but I assume it'll be 3-4-3 more often than not with Barnes as 3rd striker?

I wouldn't be tripling up on Chelsea attack myself. 6 goals in 4 games, 5 of them coming against 2 promoted teams. 3 of them against a ridiculously open Norwich.

I would favour 3-5-2 myself. Barnes & Pulisic to Greenwood & KDB or something along those lines would make it a much stronger 11 imo.

Ace2007 · 03-09-2019 11:49am

Wisesmurf wrote: »

Trying to keep competitive in a fairly meaty money league and currently top 5.
Managed to resist the Pukki train and a good number of others have done a WC
I've rotated Kane, Auba and Aguero to good effect with transfers.

Current team:

Pope (Button)
Robbertson , TAA, Zinchenko, Kelly (Lundstram)
Bernardo S, James, Salah, Dendonker (Perez)
Aguero, Vardy (Greenwood)

WC Team:

Pope (Ryan)
Robbertson , TAA, Zinchenko, Kelly (Hanley)
Mount, James, Salah, Pulisic (Cantwell)
Aguero, Abraham (Barnes)

I want to get rid of the dead wood that i've been hiding so far and players I think have run their course:
Button, Perez - Vardy/Lundstram/Bernardo

Thoughts on below? I'm half thinking of not doing the WC yet but I think CHE players are a must

Mount and Pulisic is over kill imo, Chelsea are not good enough to have 3 forward players in a team, yet alone 2 midfield players, they aren't keeping CS, so your losing the CS point x 2 by having both of them.

Are people sold on Mount being a good FF player, yes he has 2 goals to date, though one of them in against Norwich who are simple just terrible in defence.

Not sure why you would sub out Lundstram for Hanley, given Hanley is injured and plays for Norwich. Kelly and Zinchenko are both at risk of losing their place, while you can downgrade Zinchenko if that happens, Kelly will be dead wood.

The most glaring omission is the absence of Sterling and/or KdB.

Personally I'm not a fan of having both TAA and Robbertson - if you had a 7m forward who only got 12 points from 4 games, you wouldn't be long getting rid of him, Liverpool in defence isn't the same as last year, have been shaky and with Adrian in goal - there is always a risk of errors. Out of Liverpool's next 8 games, that include Chelsea, United, Spurs, City and Leicester, how many CS do you see?

You talk about places that have run their course -

Button was never ever going to play, so you are getting exactly what you thought you would when you got him in the first place.

Lundstram is a 4.0m player who plays - again what more do you want from him? He is also an enabler to more expensive players.

Vardy has 3 goals in 2 games, don't see why he is an urgent reason to get rid

Bernardo is the trap of being a great PL player but not a great FF player, so by all means move him on.

Perez gamble that didn't work out - easy to fix.

On your actually team, you have Barnes in brackets - but surely you would be playing him every week - he is way to good to be ever on the bench, if you are benching him you might as well stick with Greenwood.

Wisesmurf · 03-09-2019 11:56am

Ace2007 wrote: »

Mount and Pulisic is over kill imo, Chelsea are not good enough to have 3 forward players in a team, yet alone 2 midfield players, they aren't keeping CS, so your losing the CS point x 2 by having both of them.

Are people sold on Mount being a good FF player, yes he has 2 goals to date, though one of them in against Norwich who are simple just terrible in defence.

Not sure why you would sub out Lundstram for Hanley, given Hanley is injured and plays for Norwich. Kelly and Zinchenko are both at risk of losing their place, while you can downgrade Zinchenko if that happens, Kelly will be dead wood.

The most glaring omission is the absence of Sterling and/or KdB.

Personally I'm not a fan of having both TAA and Robbertson - if you had a 7m forward who only got 12 points from 4 games, you wouldn't be long getting rid of him, Liverpool in defence isn't the same as last year, have been shaky and with Adrian in goal - there is always a risk of errors. Out of Liverpool's next 8 games, that include Chelsea, United, Spurs, City and Leicester, how many CS do you see?

You talk about places that have run their course -

Button was never ever going to play, so you are getting exactly what you thought you would when you got him in the first place.

Lundstram is a 4.0m player who plays - again what more do you want from him? He is also an enabler to more expensive players.

Vardy has 3 goals in 2 games, don't see why he is an urgent reason to get rid

Bernardo is the trap of being a great PL player but not a great FF player, so by all means move him on.

Perez gamble that didn't work out - easy to fix.

On your actually team, you have Barnes in brackets - but surely you would be playing him every week - he is way to good to be ever on the bench, if you are benching him you might as well stick with Greenwood.

Thanks both. Formatting issue - Barnes will definitely start the next few weeks.

I'll have another draft after the feedback above and come back

slimshady007 · 03-09-2019 12:56pm

Triple up on Sterling, KDB and Kun has worked out well but meant I've gone without Liverpool attack. I've got away with it to an extent so far but fear they'll get a bucket load in their next 4 games. If you were to downgrade one of the City boys who would it be. Other big money player is Auba but they have a nice run over the next 10 weeks and Arsenal look decent (from an attacking perspective) so expect to get a good return from him.

Wisesmurf · 03-09-2019 1:02pm

Edited with the feedback above:

Current team:

Pope (Button)
Robbertson , TAA, Zinchenko, Kelly (Lundstram)
Bernardo S, James, Salah, Dendonker (Perez)
Aguero, Vardy (Greenwood)

WC Team:

Pope Button
PVA , TAA, Zinchenko, (Kelly Lundstram)
De Brunye, James, Salah, Guendouzi (Dendoncker)
Aguero, Vardy Barnes

PARlance · 03-09-2019 1:09pm

Personally I would just do Perez and B Silva to De Brunye and Guendouzi (and make the others moves in later weeks) and keep the WC.

Scorpion Sting · 03-09-2019 3:23pm

Ace2007 wrote: »

His team is actually in decent enough shape, without having to make major changes.

Clean sheets are at a premium this season, so having Ryan isn't that big of an issue imo, could get Pope in for run of fixtures, but they haven't kept a CS yet, whereas Brighton have.

Burnley kept a clean sheet in GW 1, 3-0 home to Southampton.

Always Be Closing · 03-09-2019 3:28pm

Probably go Kane and Pedro to Mane and a cheap striker

Ace2007 · 03-09-2019 3:43pm

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

Burnley kept a clean sheet in GW 1, 3-0 home to Southampton.

my bad, for some reason I had Pope playing for Bournemouth in my head

Islander13 · 03-09-2019 9:14pm

Zinchenko is highly likely to be out of the City team after the International break. Mendy and Angelino will be ahead of him by end Sept

km79 · 03-09-2019 9:20pm

Islander13 wrote: »

Zinchenko is highly likely to be out of the City team after the International break. Mendy and Angelino will be ahead of him by end Sept

Based on ......?
Mendy will be a major threat no doubt. Until he gets injured again.
Angelino. No way

I haven’t got zinchenko because of Mendy . As soon as he inevitably gets injured again I will

eagle eye · 04-09-2019 12:17am

Zinchenko has been.playing very well, hard to imagine he'll be dropped if he maintains his form.

crushproof · 04-09-2019 8:37am

I don't have him either but I reckon he'll stay in the team considering how we'll he's played so far this season. Mendy will challenge but prob get injured again!

Dr. Bre · 04-09-2019 8:38am

Was thinking ceballos in. Will he be regular tho? I noticed he was benched v spurs

elefant · 04-09-2019 8:46am

Islander13 wrote: »

Zinchenko is highly likely to be out of the City team after the International break. Mendy and Angelino will be ahead of him by end Sept

What could you possibly be basing Angelino being ahead of him on?

The Phantom Jipper · 04-09-2019 6:32pm

Is anyone else tempted by either Son and/or Aubameyang with their upcoming fixtures? I'd like to get in both but would likely require sacrificing Sterling to make up the bulk of the cash

The Phantom Jipper · 04-09-2019 6:34pm

crushproof wrote: »

I don't have him either but I reckon he'll stay in the team considering how we'll he's played so far this season. Mendy will challenge but prob get injured again!

Agreed on Zinchenko. City have won every game he's played in, except for one drawn game. I think Laporte being out makes it more likely he'll keep his place aswell, rather than throwing a new variable like Mendy into the mix.

Porthallian · 04-09-2019 7:53pm

The Phantom Jipper wrote: »

Agreed on Zinchenko. City have won every game he's played in, except for one drawn game. I think Laporte being out makes it more likely he'll keep his place aswell, rather than throwing a new variable like Mendy into the mix.

They only have 2 fit CBs in Stones/Otamendi so I wonder had Zinchenko ever played CB?

He could fit in beside Stones with Mendy/Danilo at LB

Axwell · 04-09-2019 7:55pm

Porthallian wrote: »

They only have 2 fit CBs in Stones/Otamendi so I wonder had Zinchenko ever played CB?

He could fit in beside Stones with Mendy/Danilo at LB

Be doing well to have Danilo tog out for them since hes gone to Juventus :pac:

Porthallian · 04-09-2019 8:15pm

Axwell wrote: »

Be doing well to have Danilo tog out for them since hes gone to Juventus :pac:

Good spot!!

Maybe Cancelo but he's more of a RB.

On an unrelated note Juve have some squad!

Islander13 · 04-09-2019 8:59pm

elefant wrote: »

What could you possibly be basing Angelino being ahead of him on?

PSG offered 25m for Angelino this summer (City had a buy back clause for 6m or so) and is a specialist left back, not the grand reach you're making it out to be

Zinchenko gets exposed against any kind of decent attacker. Plus his poor distributon was a big contributing factor to Laportes injury against Brighton by giving the ball away for that phase. He might get one or two more games but will fade into the background like Delph almost exactly this time last year I predict.

Time will tell, who knows with Pep, but a converted No. 10 is unlikely to last the course for the season at left back if Pep wants to prepare for the champions league games that matter

Porthallian · 05-09-2019 8:15am

Digne/4.5m def or Otamendi/Maitland Niles?

Don't know much about M Niles but they have some nice fixtures

DaMorganator · 05-09-2019 9:10am

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Was thinking ceballos in. Will he be regular tho? I noticed he was benched v spurs

At the moment you might see him rotated for big games where Arsenal will look to use 3 of their more defensive minded midfielders like against Spurs at the weekend. But in saying that he should start the majority of the other fixtures, and with 2 prolific goalscorers in front of him I'd expect plenty of assists!

NoviGlitzko · 05-09-2019 11:17am

DaMorganator wrote: »

At the moment you might see him rotated for big games where Arsenal will look to use 3 of their more defensive minded midfielders like against Spurs at the weekend. But in saying that he should start the majority of the other fixtures, and with 2 prolific goalscorers in front of him I'd expect plenty of assists!

Came here to ask the same question! I'll start him then for Watford away.

Shedite27 · 07-09-2019 2:01pm

Took a week free from FF/boards, been refreshing.

Current Team:
Pope
Digne VVD Diop Lundstram (Rico)
Salah KDB Sterling Ceballos (Dedoncker)
Pukki Kane (Greenwood)

I have one too many duds in my team so need to downgrade Kane to get a bit more strength. Either upgrade Rico significantly and stay 442, upgrade Ceballos to Martial (which has been in my head for about 2 weeks now), or upgrade Greenwood too and go 343.

Kane/Greenwood - Barnes/Haller

Pope
Digne VVD Diop/Lunstram (Rico)
Salah KDB Sterling Ceballos (Dedoncker)
Pukki Haller Barnes

Shedite27 · 07-09-2019 2:06pm

DaMorganator wrote: »

At the moment you might see him rotated for big games where Arsenal will look to use 3 of their more defensive minded midfielders like against Spurs at the weekend. But in saying that he should start the majority of the other fixtures, and with 2 prolific goalscorers in front of him I'd expect plenty of assists!

Arsenal are very different away from home, wouldn't want any Arsenal players away. At his price tho you could be able to bench him for tough away games.

The Phantom Jipper wrote: »

Is anyone else tempted by either Son and/or Aubameyang with their upcoming fixtures? I'd like to get in both but would likely require sacrificing Sterling to make up the bulk of the cash

I've a feeling I'm going to jump KDB-Son missing and chasing hauls for a few months!

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