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Brexit discussion thread X (Please read OP before posting)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭InTheShadows


    Tories are finished

    Dream on pal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Andrea leadsom talking about a deal. What deal are they talking about ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,899 ✭✭✭54and56


    Barnier and Co must be quaffing champagne and laughing their heads off tonight as the Tory party tears itself apart.

    All they have to do is sit on their hands, hold their position and stay cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,359 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Surprised no one is asking how will the EU respond to no deal being taken off the table?

    Will their stance harden?

    Remember Boris is in Dublin on Monday...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭boggerman1


    Nope he's walked these clowns right into it. The public aren't sending Corbyn to Brussels. It's over. No deal inevitable.

    Ok Brendan O'Neill we get it


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,896 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,049 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Popeleo wrote: »
    A chancer like Boris kicking Churchill's grandson out of the Tory party. Sums up Brexit, really.

    It won't be a good look.

    Although Leadsom is being interviewed on Sky now and seems to be rowing back on the idea of removing the party whip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,562 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Surprised no one is asking how will the EU respond to no deal being taken off the table?

    Will their stance harden?

    Remember Boris is in Dublin on Monday...

    It hasn't been yet.
    I would expect nothing to happen at EU level until the GE sorts itself out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Tories are finished

    Dream on pal.
    May starting to look like a strong leader now, depaffell's first test = huge fail


  • Administrators Posts: 55,209 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Johnson's legs have been taken from under him. He's a lame duck.

    A Prime Minister who has lost his authority straight out the gate. This will have long term ramifications for him, even if the tories do win an eventual election.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Andrea leadsom talking about a deal. What deal are they talking about ?

    The intention is to re-heat the withdrawal agreement for a 4th time on the 21st October.

    And it won't pass anyway.

    Because Parliament don't want "no deal"
    And the same MP's don't want "deal"

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    Labour have screwed the remoaners by keeping Corbyn in. If they had replaced him with someone competent when they had the chance they could have overthrown the democratic will of the public.




    I am not so sure the democratic will of a majority of the people who voted for brexit would be overly excited about just crashing out without a deal and all the misery that will bring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭McGiver


    ath262 wrote: »
    if the alliance holds he will not get 66% to go ahead with election
    3/5ths 60% only, some 380


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Surprised no one is asking how will the EU respond to no deal being taken off the table?

    Will their stance harden?

    Remember Boris is in Dublin on Monday...
    It hasn't been taken off the table. They voted to have a vote tomorrow. If they vote tomorrow then that will be off the table.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭maynooth_rules


    gmisk wrote: »
    Christ Andrea Leadsom is useless

    But she has children, which makes her better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,409 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    There is only 2 ways the Conservatives will not be in government in that election if it happens.

    1) Labour and the other parties come together in how to select people for an election so its 1 on 1
    2) Or Labour and other parties get together for a coalition and set it out for the election and then have a majority


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Surprised no one is asking how will the EU respond to no deal being taken off the table?

    Will their stance harden?

    Remember Boris is in Dublin on Monday...
    The EU don't care that no deal is cancelled. Nothing for them to say other than "oh, that's nice".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,836 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Andrea leadsom talking about a deal. What deal are they talking about ?
    It's er a secret?....so much so the EU haven't been told anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Surprised no one is asking how will the EU respond to no deal being taken off the table?

    Will their stance harden?

    Remember Boris is in Dublin on Monday...
    They won't do anything much until Britain shows up with a new plan. Judging by whats rumoured it'll still be no change as it will be on Monday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,895 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    What an epic tv tonight, Bercow was the star of the show once again.

    But fair play to the rebels in the conservatives, of course it wasnt easy but they stood up when their country need them and did was best for their country.

    Pity other politicians only care for personal glory or their party


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,836 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    But she has children, which makes her better
    She is constantly putting her foot in her mouth I almost forgot about that one!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    What does tonight mean overall? Any chance of a Brexit extension or referendum not to leave?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    awec wrote: »
    Johnson's legs have been taken from under him. He's a lame duck.

    A Prime Minister who has lost his authority straight out the gate. This will have long term ramifications for him, even if the tories do win an eventual election.

    It has ramifications for every future Prime Minister.

    This is a massive precedent.

    If Parliament doesn't like something Comrade Jezz cooks up 2 years from now, they can compel Corbyn to accept a decision they or any supra-national body decide, on any matter whatsoever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    There is only 2 ways the Conservatives will not be in government in that election if it happens.

    1) Labour and the other parties come together in how to select people for an election so its 1 on 1
    2) Or Labour and other parties get together for a coalition and set it out for the election and then have a majority

    3) The Brexit party take a share of their vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    There is only 2 ways the Conservatives will not be in government in that election if it happens.

    1) Labour and the other parties come together in how to select people for an election so its 1 on 1
    2) Or Labour and other parties get together for a coalition and set it out for the election and then have a majority
    Either of this is possible and let's not forget the Farage influence in all of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,689 ✭✭✭Infini


    figges wrote: »
    Something more sinister I suspect. Something heinous, in his mind at least. When men of integrity say things like that its a bit worrying.

    Likely it's the fear that a no deal will unleash the kind of chaos that gets people killed and spirals into the kind of stuff that brought about Nazi Germany, they havent gone quite over the line but there's been quite a few echos of what happened to weimar of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭gooch2k9


    Headshot wrote: »
    What an epic tv tonight, Bercow was the star of the show once again.

    But fair play to the rebels in the conservatives, of course it wasnt easy but they stood up when their country need them and did was best for their country.

    Pity other politicians only care for personal glory or their party

    They have to do it again tomorrow. It sounds like they haven't had the whip removed tonight. They will be put under serious pressure tomorrow by No.10.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,320 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    devnull wrote: »
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    List of Rebels on both sides.

    Looks like not one Scottish Tory MP rebelled, what a bunch of wasters they are


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Tories are finished

    Dream on pal.
    It's funny, the Brits want to leave the EU but won't, now the government want a GE but wont get it, the opposition can have a GE but dont want it, what's the word, TIN POT


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭InTheShadows


    The people of the UK aren't ever putting a charlatan like Corbyn into number 10. Today is a marvelous day for the people who voted to leave the EU.


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