Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2019/2020

BorneTobyWilde · 02-09-2019 03:20PM

The White Wolf wrote: »

I wonder what kind of wages Fiorentena will be paying him.

20k a week with a life supply of Prozac

BorneTobyWilde · 02-09-2019 03:28PM

Hope he does well, I know nothing of Booby Dunking but if he can get his career off to a early start then fair play to him. He was getting no where near Firmino's no9 role.

BorneTobyWilde · 02-09-2019 03:31PM

Florence is a nice location, it will be a great experience if he can settle. I fear he'll be home with tail between his legs in a Jan though.

Bandana boy · 02-09-2019 03:37PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Florence is a nice location, it will be a great experience if he can settle. I fear he'll be home with tail between his legs in a Jan though.

Lovely little city , the emphasis being on little ,its about the size of Kilkenny .
time will tell if his talent can stay ahead of the damage his ego is doing.

Peatys · 02-09-2019 03:57PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Florence is a nice location, it will be a great experience if he can settle. I fear he'll be home with tail between his legs in a Jan though.

Took me way too long to figure out where that is a map of

eyerer · 02-09-2019 04:05PM

Peatys wrote: »

Took me way too long to figure out where that is a map of

The world from Toby's perspective? :P

LiamoSail · 02-09-2019 04:08PM

Umaro wrote: »

Will be interesting to follow what happens to Bobby Duncan at Fiorentina. It seems a terrible idea for his career to go play in Italy at such a young age. Combine the language barrier and the fact he hasn't broken into first team football yet, means it'll be really difficult for him to get playing time.

The whole thing stinks of people getting in his ear and trying to make as much money out of him as possible. You'd wonder about the envy that having Steven Gerrard in the extended family creates, its probably more toxic than you'd realise for one part of the family to see another part living so well.

There’s plenty of references to him being badly advised or people getting in his ear, but maybe he’s just a dick? Plenty of others have people in their ear and families full of expectation and yet avoid this kind of nonsense.

Not sure how likely him breaking in to the Fiorentina side is, but in a league as tight defensively as Serie A coupled with the language barrier, it won’t be easy.

02-09-2019 04:20PM

sideswipe wrote: »

Holly **** your right........well apart from the koala 'bear' bit because its a marsupial.

Nah, that's a Drop bear

BorneTobyWilde · 02-09-2019 05:28PM

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-make-44million-transfer-window-19171481

We made 44 million this window. Dam, hope we see a signing in Jan.

BorneTobyWilde · 02-09-2019 05:40PM

Eriksen on a free would be nice. Matip out of contract in ten months, need to tie him down before some poaches him.

mosstin · 02-09-2019 05:46PM

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

And possibly Chlamydia, they are riddled!

What kind of ****ing Googling were you at to come up with that, eh?

gimli2112 · 02-09-2019 05:51PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-make-44million-transfer-window-19171481

We made 44 million this window. Dam, hope we see a signing in Jan.

That won't interest our rivals though. To be fair it's not the first transfer window they've made a massive profit but all the focus is on VVD/Keita/Fab etc. Some of the fees they get for unwanted players is astonishing, often clubs just about give players away

Agent Coulson · 02-09-2019 06:07PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-make-44million-transfer-window-19171481

We made 44 million this window. Dam, hope we see a signing in Jan.

Net Spend since Klopp became manager £68m

Agent Coulson · 02-09-2019 06:16PM

What FSG have done with the club is stunning.

Liverpool can't complete financially with Man City, Man U,Chelsea, Madrid, Barca, PSG, Munich, Juve yet they have built one of the strongest top two teams in football on net spend of £68m.

All while expanding the stadium building a new training ground and bringing in record sponsorship deal and making the club self sufficient and not needing a sugar daddy.

Turtyturd · 02-09-2019 06:17PM

Just for comparison that’s one months wages for Alexis Sanchez.

Harry Palmr · 02-09-2019 06:27PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Just for comparison that’s one months wages for Alexis Sanchez.

is that before of after his loan to Roma?

Other possible comparators - Pogba's social media income, Luke Shaw's happy meal budget, Jesse Lingard's allowance

OwaynOTT · 02-09-2019 06:49PM

mosstin wrote: »

What kind of ****ing Googling were you at to come up with that, eh?

Reckon he was watching QI.

The Good Ole Boys · 02-09-2019 07:14PM

Bandana boy wrote: »

Lovely little city , the emphasis being on little ,its about the size of Kilkenny .
time will tell if his talent can stay ahead of the damage his ego is doing.

Starfleet Student · 02-09-2019 07:29PM

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Firmino sorts it out.
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Nunu · 02-09-2019 07:40PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

What FSG have done with the club is stunning.

Liverpool can't complete financially with Man City, Man U,Chelsea, Madrid, Barca, PSG, Munich, Juve yet they have built one of the strongest top two teams in football on net spend of £68m.

All while expanding the stadium building a new training ground and bringing in record sponsorship deal and making the club self sufficient and not needing a sugar daddy.

I wouldn’t include Juventus on that list. Their transfer business has been astonishing last few years. Actually very similar to how Liverpool have operated.

Agent Coulson · 02-09-2019 07:54PM

Duncan has completed his move.

Everyone at the club wishes Bobby the best of luck with his future career.

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1168584542510354433?s=20

POKERKING · 02-09-2019 07:56PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

What FSG have done with the club is stunning.

Liverpool can't complete financially with Man City, Man U,Chelsea, Madrid, Barca, PSG, Munich, Juve yet they have built one of the strongest top two teams in football on net spend of £68m.

All while expanding the stadium building a new training ground and bringing in record sponsorship deal and making the club self sufficient and not needing a sugar daddy.

Is it Klopp or FSG?

If they arent actually investing in the playing squad are they only a couple of big transfers going wrong from being burned badly? And if there not investing in the squad then where is all the money gone from tv rights and the champions league runs? Stadium and training ground?

Genuine question not trying to knock them.

From the outside looking in it looks to me like it’s more down to Klopp(and co) his genius than anything FSG have done. I dont know the ins and outs of it though.

Treviso · 02-09-2019 08:03PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Duncan has completed his move.

Everyone at the club wishes Bobby the best of luck with his future career.

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1168584542510354433?s=20

~Rebel~ · 02-09-2019 08:11PM

POKERKING wrote: »

Is it Klopp or FSG?

If they arent actually investing in the playing squad are they only a couple of big transfers going wrong from being burned badly? And if there not investing in the squad then where is all the money gone from tv rights and the champions league runs? Stadium and training ground?

Genuine question not trying to knock them.

From the outside looking in it looks to me like it’s more down to Klopp(and co) his genius than anything FSG have done. I dont know the ins and outs of it though.

It's a bit of both - but you also have to keep in mind that Klopp actually being there is also something FSG did. And they put in place the team of scouts and analytics that have identified most of our brilliant purchases. That team wasn't working well with Rodgers, so they changed the piece that seemed ill-fitting, which was Rodgers. And then you suddenly see all the pieces that team had assembled become instantly much better with a manager better suited to the structure.

As for the money - football clubs are expensive... the year of the Coutinho transfer was the first year Liverpool were in the black in a very long time. Without a sugar daddy, most of the club's income gets swallowed up in wages (which are now many multiples of what they were only 10 years ago). They had the increased money to either tie down the stars, or buy new stars, and they picked the former, so everyone important is now secured on a long term contract (first time Liverpool have come 2nd and not lost at least one indispensable player).

The biggest thing is that it's a careful, considered build. The club spends within its means, but does so wisely so the income increases. They then spend that increase wisely, so you take another increase, and build larger brand awareness, and get better sponsorships, which leads to more money, which allows you to further each of those things and start winning things, which further increases the money. It's basically how any business works in any other field. That's all FSG.

martyos121 · 02-09-2019 08:13PM

POKERKING wrote: »

Is it Klopp or FSG?

If they arent actually investing in the playing squad are they only a couple of big transfers going wrong from being burned badly? And if there not investing in the squad then where is all the money gone from tv rights and the champions league runs? Stadium and training ground?

Genuine question not trying to knock them.

From the outside looking in it looks to me like it’s more down to Klopp(and co) his genius than anything FSG have done. I dont know the ins and outs of it though.

I’d hope that some of the money we haven’t spent in the transfer market is funding the redevelopment of the Anfield Road end. A lot of our income has also gone into some big contracts we’ve renewed in the past year and a half, and those contracts are rumoured to be heavily incentivised, so our wage bill is going to be massive when the forwards are doing well (pretty much all the time

).

Klopp is just one of those managers who prefers a smaller squad, and I’m sure there were players he wanted to bring in over the summer but the deals weren’t done for whatever reasons, but I believe him when he says he’s happy with the squad. If the club identifies another “game changer” as they like to call them, I’m extremely confident that the owners will pay whatever it takes to bring them in. It’s an all or nothing approach to the transfer market, but it’s worked brilliantly for us so far and I imagine the money will always be there for one of those huge signings if they’ll take us up another level.

You’re right that we could end up burned with a bad transfer given the “quality over quantity” approach, but Edwards and co. appear to be meticulous in their recruitment process and they only seem to want to spend the big bucks on what they feel is a sure thing. That’s why most supporters wouldn’t doubt the club if, for example, we went back and signed another Southampton player for big money. The hit rate is close to 100%, so transfers are kind of a big deal for us and something to really look forward to. We probably won’t even spend in January, but we can probably look forward to a big spend next summer (Mbappé 2020, whisper it quietly.....:pac:).

Edit: beaten to the punch by Rebel on a couple of points there.

bennyineire · 02-09-2019 08:17PM

Laporte out for 4/5 months with an ACL injury been reported on Twitter. Feel bad for the player but it is what it is now, let's hope Liverpool can take advantage

Agent Coulson · 02-09-2019 08:21PM

bennyineire wrote: »

Laporte out for 4/5 months with an ACL injury been reported on Twitter. Feel bad for the player but it is what it is now, let's hope Liverpool can take advantage

Back in 8 weeks so when he visits Pep’s Barca doctor.

Harry Palmr · 02-09-2019 08:31PM

POKERKING wrote: »

Is it Klopp or FSG?

If they arent actually investing in the playing squad are they only a couple of big transfers going wrong from being burned badly? And if there not investing in the squad then where is all the money gone from tv rights and the champions league runs? Stadium and training ground?

Genuine question not trying to knock them.

From the outside looking in it looks to me like it’s more down to Klopp(and co) his genius than anything FSG have done. I dont know the ins and outs of it though.

FSG keep Liverpool on a short leash financially - they spend on infrastructure which adds to the bottom line for decades to come (Annie Road and the new training ground are the current projects) and they hire people who are very good at what they do allowing the club to sell both star names, marginal squad figures and academy/youth players for at times eye watering sums which means that the recruitment of A level talent can be achieved
without accruing debt. City can just buy someone/anyone, Utd likewise Liverpool's revenues are growing quickly but still lag sufficiently to mean net spend does actually matter unless willing to go into debt which is clearly not in the FSG manual.

This summers lack of incoming is based on a couple of things - first the unmined potential of Fabinho (played half a season), Keita (played half a season) Gomez (missed half season), OxCham (missed whole season) plus Brewster (missed a whole season) plus Lallana and Shaqiri means there is a lot of unburnt fuel in the tank. Second (and I can't prove this in any way!) I think they have lined up one, maybe two big deals for next summer. Michael Edwards and his team certainly think ahead and are persistent when it comes to landing the right player. It could be someone obvious (Mpabbe 2020!) but it could be a player/s they rate hugely but who hasn't been linked even somewhat jokingly at this point.

rob316 · 02-09-2019 08:52PM

It's easier for us to offload players for high fees as our wages are lower than most other clubs in the top 6.

gimli2112 · 02-09-2019 08:59PM

I'm not sure, saw something a few months back indicated our wage bill is pretty high. I mean we're not going to pay Gareth Bale's wages or the like but they pay well enough.

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