Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

thomond2006 · 23-08-2019 9:17am

The best we could have hoped for. The easiest away game to start off and a winnable home tie against Racing.

LuckyGent88 · 23-08-2019 9:33am

irelandrover wrote: »

Why is the date and time of the away v Racing still TBC?

PSG play Monaco on the Sunday so think they might have to consider that. Ideally French love the Sunday rugby games.

Podge_irl · 23-08-2019 10:13am

ha, ignore. Wrong thread

yerrahbah · 24-08-2019 1:14pm

https://tickets.saracens.com/selection/event/seat?perfId=101317483002&productId=101317468355&utm_campaign=347495_European%20fixtures&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Saracens&utm_content=Munster&dm_i=4YKT,7G4N,1IPU4N,RL0I,1

If anyone is thinking of going, Saracens away tickets are available

Tickets for all the home European games are available too

Mav11 · 24-08-2019 4:10pm

Planning on bringing the young fellah down to see the Southern Kings match on October 5th. Anybody have any advice for me? I presume that there would be no problems picking up tickets at the gate?

Thanks
Mav

The Lost Sheep · 24-08-2019 4:22pm

Mav11 wrote: »

Planning on bringing the young fellah down to see the Southern Kings match on October 5th. Anybody have any advice for me? I presume that there would be no problems picking up tickets at the gate?

Thanks
Mav

No issue at all. They play in a 40k stadium and have 2 to 3k attendance on average

Mav11 · 24-08-2019 4:27pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

No issue at all. They play in a 40k stadium and have 2 to 3k attendance on average

Thanks a mil looking forward to it.

Caranica · 24-08-2019 4:35pm

Last time the game was in George so munster folk haven't done a game in PE yet. With CJ being with Ireland, no reason to move it this time

Mav11 · 24-08-2019 4:38pm

Caranica wrote: »

Last time the game was in George so munster folk haven't done a game in PE yet. With CJ being with Ireland, no reason to move it this time

I haven't been before, but I hear that PE is a lovely spot. Might take a few days after, to do a bit of touring!!

Jump_In_Jack · 26-08-2019 7:15pm

Springboks' Rassie Erasmus to secure the services of former Irish international Felix Jones

errlloyd · 26-08-2019 7:16pm

Mav11 wrote: »

I haven't been before, but I hear that PE is a lovely spot. Might take a few days after, to do a bit of touring!!

Man, I've no idea who said PE was lovely. The Garden route and surrounding area is nice, but don't spend too much time in the city.

Caranica · 26-08-2019 7:28pm

Short term signings a possibility and Charlie Hodgson with the team for a couple of days as JvG continues to bring in specialists.

[URL="Short-term signings possible as Munster await final Ireland World Cup squad https://the42.ie/4783188"]Short-term signings possible as Munster await final Ireland World Cup squad https://the42.ie/4783188[/URL]

thomond2006 · 26-08-2019 7:37pm

I don't see a need for short term signings. The injury profile of the senior squad is fine. The only position Munster may be short in is hooker with only KOB and Marshall but there's two academy players in that position.

Tomtom364 · 26-08-2019 8:06pm

Only short term position I could think of is if Klyne and Beirne both travels leaves just Holland and O'Shea in the senior squad.

thomond2006 · 26-08-2019 8:07pm

Tomtom364 wrote: »

Only short term position I could think of is if Klyne and Beirne both travels leaves just Holland and O'Shea in the senior squad.

Wycherley or SOC can play lock.

Mr Tickle · 27-08-2019 6:58am

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

Springboks' Rassie Erasmus to secure the services of former Irish international Felix Jones

That's interesting. Given the flack Jones has taken over the last year i'd be curious to see how this plays out.

badboyblast · 27-08-2019 5:39pm

Mr Tickle wrote: »

That's interesting. Given the flack Jones has taken over the last year i'd be curious to see how this plays out.

Flack from keyboard warriors, what a big up for him , he is talented, people always quick to point fingers .

Wouldnt it be gas if SA won the world cup and Felix working with them .

bennyl10 · 27-08-2019 5:46pm

badboyblast wrote: »

Flack from keyboard warriors, what a big up for him , he is talented, people always quick to point fingers .

Wouldnt it be gas if SA won the world cup and Felix working with them .

The flack for Munsters attack was deserved and came from people who watched Munster on a regular basis.

This is a great opportunity for him if true, but the criticism was from far more than ‘keyboard warriors’

thomond2006 · 29-08-2019 4:14pm

Munster A:
Rob Hedderman (UCC); Matt Bowen (UCC), Louis Bruce (UCC), Alan Tynan (Academy), Jonathan Wren (Academy); Ben Healy (Academy), Jack Stafford (Academy);
James French (Academy), Scott Buckley (UCC) (C), Corrie Barrett (Garryowen); Kevin Seymour (Garryowen), Paddy Kelly (Academy); David Hyland (Cork Con), Jack Daly (Academy), Cian Hurley (Clonakilty).

Replacements:
Eoghan Clarke (Academy), Aaron Hennessy (Nenagh Ormond), James Kendrick (Cashel), Conor Mitchell (Young Munster), Jack Crowley (Bandon), Pa Ryan (Shannon).

There's a lot more participants from the academy this weekend.

Sabre0001 · 30-08-2019 1:56pm

JVG and Larkham chatting about pre-season. SL wants to add some detail to our attack, saying that maybe not enough line breaks were created or players beaten one-on-one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz3ngQaiCMI

Burkie1203 · 30-08-2019 8:10pm

https://twitter.com/Munsterrugby/status/1167526897527513097?s=19

thomond2006 · 02-09-2019 9:23am

Indo reporting that Munster are looking to sign Jed Holloway, a versatile back five forward from the Waratahs, for World Cup cover.

If the reports are true and Munster will lose four back five forwards to Japan it makes sense to bring someone in.

Caranica · 02-09-2019 12:15pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Indo reporting that Munster are looking to sign Jed Holloway, a versatile back five forward from the Waratahs, for World Cup cover.

If the reports are true and Munster will lose four back five forwards to Japan it makes sense to bring someone in.

Were gonna need him now!

thomond2006 · 02-09-2019 12:30pm

So during the RWC Munster are left with a 23 like the below:

Cronin, Marshall, Archer, Holland, Wycherley, JOD, Cloete, Botha;
McCarthy, Bleyendaal, Sweetnam, Scannell, Goggin, Nash, Haley

KOB, LOC, Scott, DOS, TOD, Mathewson, JJH, Daly

IIRC Wootton is out injured until 2020. Open to correction...

On Holloway, on reflection I'm not sure that signing will get the green light. I would have thought RWC cover was the idea behind re-signing Arno Botha and there's still four senior locks and six backrow players remaining. Unless there are injuries in that group I'm not sure a RWC joker is needed.

shootermacg · 02-09-2019 12:32pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

So during the RWC Munster are left with a 23 like the below:

Cronin, Marshall, Archer, Holland, Wycherley, JOD, Cloete, Botha;
McCarthy, Bleyendaal, Sweetnam, Scannell, Goggin, Nash, Haley

KOB, LOC, Scott, DOS, TOD, Mathewson, JJH, Daly

IIRC Wootton is out injured until 2020. Open to correction...

Still, not bad at all considering the amount of guys we're missing. I was hoping that DoS would kick on into the first team this year.

Tomtom364 · 02-09-2019 12:55pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

So during the RWC Munster are left with a 23 like the below:

Cronin, Marshall, Archer, Holland, Wycherley, JOD, Cloete, Botha;
McCarthy, Bleyendaal, Sweetnam, Scannell, Goggin, Nash, Haley

KOB, LOC, Scott, DOS, TOD, Mathewson, JJH, Daly

IIRC Wootton is out injured until 2020. Open to correction...

On Holloway, on reflection I'm not sure that signing will get the green light. I would have thought RWC cover was the idea behind re-signing Arno Botha and there's still four senior locks and six backrow players remaining. Unless there are injuries in that group I'm not sure a RWC joker is needed.

I think Whooton is meant to be good to go for this season.

Henry Ford III · 02-09-2019 4:08pm

Tomtom364 wrote: »

I think Whooton is meant to be good to go for this season.

I hope he steps it up. He has looked good at times going forwards but Teddy Thomas made him look very weak defensively.

RobbieRuns · 03-09-2019 7:56am

Henry Ford III wrote: »

I hope he steps it up. He has looked good at times going forwards but Teddy Thomas made him look very weak defensively.

Yeah, he is so easy to tackle...........

Jump_In_Jack · 03-09-2019 8:34pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

So during the RWC Munster are left with a 23 like the below:

Cronin, Marshall, Archer, Holland, Wycherley, JOD, Cloete, Botha;
McCarthy, Bleyendaal, Sweetnam, Scannell, Goggin, Nash, Haley

KOB, LOC, Scott, DOS, TOD, Mathewson, JJH, Daly

IIRC Wootton is out injured until 2020. Open to correction...

On Holloway, on reflection I'm not sure that signing will get the green light. I would have thought RWC cover was the idea behind re-signing Arno Botha and there's still four senior locks and six backrow players remaining. Unless there are injuries in that group I'm not sure a RWC joker is needed.

This is how I’d see the squad shaping up without our World Cup players:
1. Cronin, 17. Loughman, O’Connor
2. Marshall, 16. O’Byrne
3. Archer, 18. Scott, Parker, Knox
4. O’Shea
5. Holland, 19. Wycherley, O’Connor
6. Botha, 20. Coombes
7. O’Donnell, Cloete, Oliver
8. O’Donoghue, O’Sullivan
9. Mathewson, 21. Cronin, McCarthy, Casey, Stafford
10. Hanrahan, 22. Bleyendaal
11. Wootton, Coombes
12. Scannell, Arnold
13. Goggin, 23. Daly, McHenry
14. Sweetnam, Nash
15. Haley, Tynan

shootermacg · 04-09-2019 7:15am

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

This is how I’d see the squad shaping up without our World Cup players:
1. Cronin, 17. Loughman, O’Connor
2. Marshall, 16. O’Byrne
3. Archer, 18. Scott, Parker, Knox
4. O’Shea
5. Holland, 19. Wycherley, O’Connor
6. Botha, 20. Coombes
7. O’Donnell, Cloete, Oliver
8. O’Donoghue, O’Sullivan
9. Mathewson, 21. Cronin, McCarthy, Casey, Stafford
10. Hanrahan, 22. Bleyendaal
11. Wootton, Coombes
12. Scannell, Arnold
13. Goggin, 23. Daly, McHenry
14. Sweetnam, Nash
15. Haley, Tynan

Not bad at all, Holland will probably captain, he's a great influence on the pitch.
You might want to swap Goggin and Arnold though

Jump_In_Jack · 04-09-2019 10:14am

shootermacg wrote: »

Not bad at all, Holland will probably captain, he's a great influence on the pitch.
You might want to swap Goggin and Arnold though

Holland should definitely captain that squad alright.

I’d like to see a centre partnership of 12. Goggin, 13. Scannell at some point.
I think Goggin showed something special at the start of last season but then injury hit and he never got back to the same level.
Scannell has pace that he rarely uses as he doesn’t have any space at 12.
If he could play 13 and see if his skills and pace could offer another option, particularly against big rush defences, his ability to chip and chase or to be a playmaker in the wider channels could be exciting.

Caranica · 04-09-2019 12:04pm

I think Tyler will captain it. It's most likely Holland's last season, we need to build for the future, and JvG rates Tyler as a captain.

Jump_In_Jack · 04-09-2019 4:25pm

Caranica wrote: »

I think Tyler will captain it. It's most likely Holland's last season, we need to build for the future, and JvG rates Tyler as a captain.

I’d prefer Holland, simply to bridge the gap until the World Cup contingent return.

ionadnapokot · 05-09-2019 7:41pm

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

Caranica wrote: »

I think Tyler will captain it. It's most likely Holland's last season, we need to build for the future, and JvG rates Tyler as a captain.

I’d prefer Holland, simply to bridge the gap until the World Cup contingent return.

Beirne and Holland usually call the lineouts?
Anybody know much about Kleyn in the lineout? My perception is Beirne, POM and CJ are the primary targets.

Jump_In_Jack · 05-09-2019 8:41pm

ionadnapokot wrote: »

Beirne and Holland usually call the lineouts?
Anybody know much about Kleyn in the lineout? My perception is Beirne, POM and CJ are the primary targets.

CJ hardly ever, he 6’1 and heavy to lift.
It’s Beirne running the line-outs with himself and Kleyn as main targets, fairly evenly shared, with O’Mahony at the front for defensive line-outs.
If Beirne is missing it would be Holland running the line-outs.

Mucky_Tackies · 06-09-2019 8:15am

Holland is a ****ing gun at lineouts. Supposedly spends hours upon hours of extra time pouring over other team lineouts trying to crack calls. Loves it he does.

Anyone know if the match in Cork tonight against Leinster 2nds is likely to be streamed anywhere?

yerrahbah · 06-09-2019 11:50am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6-lbcU5yiM

Still on the look out for an additional coach

Burkie1203 · 06-09-2019 1:28pm

https://twitter.com/LindaOkaythen/status/1169861629338456065?s=19

Caranica · 06-09-2019 1:35pm

There are protests planned for outside the game and I think if he's in the 23 it will harm ticket sales. I can't go to the game anyway but I've heard people who traditionally would say they won't if Jackson is playing.

Cookiemunster · 06-09-2019 1:45pm

Caranica wrote: »

There are protests planned for outside the game and I think if he's in the 23 it will harm ticket sales. I can't go to the game anyway but I've heard people who traditionally would say they won't if Jackson is playing.

Jackson will probably be involved as it'll be a matchday 40ish rather than 23. Different teams each half and probably more subs during the second half. That's what stops me going to preseason friendlies rather than who might or might not be playing.

Henry Ford III · 06-09-2019 2:13pm

Protesting against what though?

P.J. conducted himself very poorly after the trial for sure, and the Whatsapp stuff was pretty bad*, but he was found not guilty and shouldn't that be the end of the matter? A group of clearly outraged but unqualified people shouldn't be running a parallel kangaroo court justice system.

*Loads of similar stuff goes on on social media all the time but isn't made public.

Caranica · 06-09-2019 3:00pm

I haven't been to that fixture since the 2012 game when Joe Ansbro broke his neck. Friday night games don't work when you live in Dublin and it's not a game worth taking a half day for.

Phileas Frog · 06-09-2019 3:35pm

Caranica wrote: »

There are protests planned for outside the game and I think if he's in the 23 it will harm ticket sales. I can't go to the game anyway but I've heard people who traditionally would say they won't if Jackson is playing.

I'd say Munster couldn't give a flying fluich about ticket sales especially since most of them were given away for free to MRSC members.

bennyl10 · 06-09-2019 10:08pm

Phileas Frog wrote: »

I'd say Munster couldn't give a flying fluich about ticket sales especially since most of them were given away for free to MRSC members.

Becuse they had to becuase general sales were so damn bad

The Lost Sheep · 06-09-2019 10:10pm

bennyl10 wrote: »

Becuse they had to becuase general sales were so damn bad

No more they do it for most pre season games. Ticket sales are never any good for these games

Cookiemunster · 07-09-2019 8:02am

bennyl10 wrote: »

Becuse they had to becuase general sales were so damn bad

What? It's a preseason friendly. MRSC members get free entry to the pre season friendlies every year as part of the membership package.

Tickets sales for the Pro14 were actually up last season and I'd expect similar this season, so I've no idea where you're getting that info from.

thomond2006 · 07-09-2019 8:27am

Paddy Butler training with Munster.

bennyl10 · 07-09-2019 8:36am

Cookiemunster wrote: »

What? It's a preseason friendly. MRSC members get free entry to the pre season friendlies every year as part of the membership package.

Tickets sales for the Pro14 were actually up last season and I'd expect similar this season, so I've no idea where you're getting that info from.

I just meant this game in particular, it has struggled to sell on general, even less than usual for a preseason.

Phileas Frog · 07-09-2019 8:40am

bennyl10 wrote: »

I just meant this game in particular, it has struggled to sell on general, even less than usual for a preseason.

But as has already been pointed out, MRSC members always get free tickets for the pre-season games. Nothing has changed this year.

Do you work in the Munster Rugby ticket office with your inside knowledge?

salmocab · 07-09-2019 8:41am

I imagine the looming World Cup and Ireland having friendlies have more to do with ticket sales than paddy Jackson

Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

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