Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2019/2020

gafferino · 21-08-2019 10:21AM

jasonb wrote: »

Anyone here signed up to The Athletic? Have seen a lot of buzz about it and am tempted, but am wondering if anyone using it could tell me what they think.

Thanks...

Yep i signed up a few weeks ago. There is a promo until the end of August for €2.50 a month so pretty good value.

I think the content is very good to be honest. At the very least on a par with some of the better papers and getting better. From a Liverpool point of view they obviously have James Pearce who is well connected and doing good articles every couple of days. He also does Q&As around every game as far as i can see and a podcast will be added as far as I know.

Simon Hughes is also on board now. He was with The Independent and Anfield Wrap previously and has written books on Liverpool most recently this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/Allez-Inside-Resurgence-Liverpool-Champions/dp/1787632709
Simon has some good articles on there already.

Add to that some other really good writers like Rafael Honigstein who does the odd piece on Klopp etc.

Thats just the Liverpool angle but dont forget you have access to the whole thing with lots of football articles from around the world but obviously a tonne of US sports on there if you want.

No ads, good app with the football side of things being built on all the time (its literally just started a few weeks ago). Most sports writing is utter gibberish so if you want something with a little more thought and substance its well worth it IMHO.

Luckycharms_74 · 21-08-2019 11:46AM

gafferino wrote: »

Yep i signed up a few weeks ago. There is a promo until the end of August for €2.50 a month so pretty good value.

I think the content is very good to be honest. At the very least on a par with some of the better papers and getting better. From a Liverpool point of view they obviously have James Pearce who is well connected and doing good articles every couple of days. He also does Q&As around every game as far as i can see and a podcast will be added as far as I know.

Simon Hughes is also on board now. He was with The Independent and Anfield Wrap previously and has written books on Liverpool most recently this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/Allez-Inside-Resurgence-Liverpool-Champions/dp/1787632709
Simon has some good articles on there already.

Add to that some other really good writers like Rafael Honigstein who does the odd piece on Klopp etc.

Thats just the Liverpool angle but dont forget you have access to the whole thing with lots of football articles from around the world but obviously a tonne of US sports on there if you want.

No ads, good app with the football side of things being built on all the time (its literally just started a few weeks ago). Most sports writing is utter gibberish so if you want something with a little more thought and substance its well worth it IMHO.

Thanks for that post .

I was contemplating signing up for a while, Just did it now.
Its great value for the yearly offer. I dont mind paying for proper content and have a subscription to the times uk as well.

I'm sure the football will get more comprehensive but you can see so far the steller line of of journos joining up.

gimli2112 · 21-08-2019 12:31PM

I see Gary Neville is trying to remain relevant. It's one thing to think Salah may leave, it's another to express it like this. He should go back to football management, he was better at that.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7376607/Mohamed-Salah-dismisses-claims-Gary-Neville-leave-Liverpool.html

Agent Coulson · 21-08-2019 12:39PM

That was taken from a Sky roadshow in front of a live audience it's part the banter that Sky want to promote between Neville and Carragher.

jasonb · 21-08-2019 12:42PM

Thanks for all the responses re The Athletic. Reckon I'll give it a go, apart from LFC I also follow NFL and MLB so I should find a good bit of content. With the special offer it's £30 a year after the first free month, so I can try it for the month and then see what I think.

SM01 · 21-08-2019 12:43PM

Gary Neville seems to be descending into more tabloid-lite sound-bites and his views are becoming increasingly insignificant /Merson-esque. He's still worth listening to but i think he's on the wane. It's a shame because for a long while he was well worth listening to (United affiliations aside).

BorneTobyWilde · 21-08-2019 12:57PM

https://twitter.com/elchaupo/status/1162852346625482752

Surprised no one had snapped up Jose, He'd shine in Italy, they love the chess football he's famous for. He'd forever win Serie A with a decent side.
Maybe he'll be next in after Klopp. Klopp joked yesterday he'll retire in 2022.

Widdensushi · 21-08-2019 01:00PM

toxic

The Good Ole Boys · 21-08-2019 01:03PM

The Athletic is the best. If you want to be informed about sport, it's your only option. If fact, I think it should be a prerequisite for posting on this forum.

gimli2112 · 21-08-2019 01:07PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/elchaupo/status/1162852346625482752

Surprised no one had snapped up Jose, He'd shine in Italy, they love the chess football he's famous for. He'd forever win Serie A with a decent side.
Maybe he'll be next in after Klopp. Klopp joked yesterday he'll retire in 2022.

Germans really have a terrible sense of humour.

If Jose was a possibility I'd probably overcome my fear of flying, learn to fly and fly banners back and forth over Anfield

BullBlackNova · 21-08-2019 01:46PM

People shouldn't take snippets like that from Neville seriously - it's designed to provoke a reaction. It was in a live studio setting too so it's just part of the banter that Sky are building between him and Carragher.

I won't go as far as to say that Neville is losing his touch or anything like that but the fact that a lot of people take everything he says as gospel is just an indictment of the poor standard of punditry on TV. He's good, he has good points, but he also has bad ones. For every good piece of analysis of Mignolet (or was it Karius?) and the jumping style, he comes up with silly nonsense too - like the Mané red card against City. He claimed "no red card, ref ruined the game" and stuck to it no matter how many replays of Mané kicking Ederson in the head he saw.

He's not the worst pundit on Sky by a long shot but it's worth taking what he says with a pinch of salt, just like with every other pundit.

super_furry · 21-08-2019 02:11PM

Signed up for the Athletic myself - €33.50 for a year is a decent deal - but it's worth bearing in mind that it's all long-read, feature type stuff. You're not getting match reports or the general day to day sports news here.

Talisman · 21-08-2019 03:01PM

gafferino wrote: »

Add to that some other really good writers like Rafael Honigstein who does the odd piece on Klopp etc.

I forgot about Honigstein - the book excerpt about Klopp showing the players his CR7 boxers before the final in Kiev cracked me up.

RugbyLover123 · 21-08-2019 03:43PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/elchaupo/status/1162852346625482752

Surprised no one had snapped up Jose, He'd shine in Italy, they love the chess football he's famous for. He'd forever win Serie A with a decent side.
Maybe he'll be next in after Klopp. Klopp joked yesterday he'll retire in 2022.

I’d say he’s had plenty of offers but still thinks he deserves/should get a role at a powerhouse club. I’d say he’s had offers from the like of Roma, Lazio even Milan but I’d say Juve would be the only job he’d take in Italy. I don’t know where is left for him to go tbh. PSG or maybe Bayern if this season is a disaster. He’s done in the PL I think, nobody big enough would touch him.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he rocked up at Wolves in the near future actually.

.G. · 21-08-2019 03:55PM

He'll be at PSG soon enough surrounded by limitless cash just how he likes it. I never ever want to see him in charge at Liverpool.

Turtyturd · 21-08-2019 05:00PM

He needs a short term gig where he can be guaranteed to get a few trophies and walk away after the second season before the trademark Mourinho 3rd season that some united fans still claim to be a myth kicks in.

PSG, Bayern and Juve would fit the bill although I think Bayern wouldn’t want the stain on their reputation and they’d probably win just as much without him. Could see another Chelsea homecoming where their fans are convinced he’s back for the long haul and this time will be totally different only for the exact same thing to happen again.

Most likely step will be international management where he won’t cause trouble with the squad as quickly and Mourinhoball will be more acceptable as long as he delivers results. Whatever it is he won’t be near Liverpool although that was obvious before the suggestion was made.

koppy · 21-08-2019 05:26PM

Be interesting to see how hed get on in a international job. Not been able to buy who he wants etc.
Like him myself but hopefully never see him as liverpool boss.

~Rebel~ · 21-08-2019 06:03PM

koppy wrote: »

Be interesting to see how hed get on in a international job. Not been able to buy who he wants etc.
Like him myself but hopefully never see him as liverpool boss.

He'd be perfect for international football I think, very pragmatic stuff. Think it'll be a while before he takes a job like that though, it's not involved enough for him at this stage yet, think he'll be wanting the day-to-day type of job for another while.

I like the impression of him a lot of the time, particularly while he's out of work... in a way he reminds me of Barton, can have moments where you seem to get access to the vulnerabilities and see the thoughts and emotions going on inside, and he can be quite charming and thoughtful - but the instant he's backed into a corner, or feels threatened, or emotions are high, the feral destructive nature kicks in. He's done too many despicable things when he's in that mode for me to ever be able to warm to him I think.

mosstin · 21-08-2019 06:37PM

koppy wrote: »

Be interesting to see how hed get on in a international job. Not been able to buy who he wants etc.
Like him myself but hopefully never see him as liverpool boss.

Really? I find this remarkable. Odious man - bully, little regard for his players, once successful but collateral damage of that success often toxic. I cannot stand him, and this recent attempt to soften his edges is pathetic.

The Good Ole Boys · 21-08-2019 06:44PM

He time is over but is a great man who achieved great things. You say bully, but I say driven and passionate human, who wanted the best out of his players by any means necessary. many of he old player say he is wonderful man. Materazzi was in tears at his departure. Says a lot in my mind.

Agent Coulson · 21-08-2019 06:46PM

Starfleet Student · 21-08-2019 06:49PM

Creepy gif.

mosstin · 21-08-2019 07:02PM

The Good Ole Boys wrote: »

He time is over but is a great man who achieved great things. You say bully, but I say driven and passionate human, who wanted the best out of his players by any means necessary. many of he old player say he is wonderful man. Materazzi was in tears at his departure. Says a lot in my mind.

His ex-physio suggests otherwise. Hideous bully. There is no argument to say that he wasn't. Funny you should mention Materazzi - birds of a feather.

The Good Ole Boys · 21-08-2019 07:04PM

mosstin wrote: »

His ex-physio suggests otherwise. Hideous bully. There is no argument to say that he wasn't. Funny you should mention Materazzi - birds of a feather.

Cannot prove a negative.

Many players thought he was a good man. John Terry would not be the player he became without the guiding touch of Jose.

mosstin · 21-08-2019 07:06PM

The Good Ole Boys wrote: »

Cannot prove a negative.

Many players thought he was a good man. John Terry would not be the player he became without the guiding touch of Jose.

You could barely use English coherently a few months back and now you're a philosopher?

Agent Coulson · 21-08-2019 07:08PM

A Gif paints a thousand word no need for Grammarly that way.

The Good Ole Boys · 21-08-2019 07:09PM

mosstin wrote: »

You could barely use English coherently a few months back and now you're a philosopher?

These things are not mutually exclusive. I still struggle with English, but Grammarly helps me a lot when I am typing on my PC computer.

Jose was a driven man, I do not think he was a bully, maybe he made few mistakes with some people, but I think it is very harsh to judge him on a couple of isolated incidents.

internelligent · 21-08-2019 07:10PM

mosstin wrote: »

You could barely use English coherently a few months back and now you're a philosopher?

He/she switches back and forth. Schizophrenia? Split personality? He's gets some t hanks so all's good

Potential Underachiever · 21-08-2019 07:15PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

He needs a short term gig where he can be guaranteed to get a few trophies and walk away after the second season before the trademark Mourinho 3rd season that some united fans still claim to be a myth kicks in.

PSG, Bayern and Juve would fit the bill although I think Bayern wouldn’t want the stain on their reputation and they’d probably win just as much without him. Could see another Chelsea homecoming where their fans are convinced he’s back for the long haul and this time will be totally different only for the exact same thing to happen again.

Most likely step will be international management where he won’t cause trouble with the squad as quickly and Mourinhoball will be more acceptable as long as he delivers results. Whatever it is he won’t be near Liverpool although that was obvious before the suggestion was made.

Nearly every post you make has to be getting a dig in at another club, you managed a 2 for 1 special here with Utd and Chelsea, it's not bad going, other days it's Arsenal or Spurs and seemingly Aston Villa lately.

It's petty, pointless stuff tbh but I dare not say it has no place in this Liverpool thread as I still have not managed to compile a list of stuff appropriate for in here yet as I will no doubt be asked to produce.

Agent Coulson · 21-08-2019 07:16PM

Salah running on water.

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