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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    530e was sold yesterday in sarsfield motors. Had a spin in a 2018 520i msport 14000 miles on clock. 36k they want for it. Which isn't too bad but it's not the car for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,609 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The 530i would be a better all rounder than the 520i but there is still a hefty premium over for them over the 520i and they are much rarer. Did you talk figures about trading in the 530d? I don't think you would be happy going from the 530d to the 520i anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    The figures mentioned don't even warrant talking about but I'll do it anyway.... 23k cost to change from a 141 530d to a 181 520i


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,922 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    You would be nuts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,609 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    That's just crazy, and they moan then at the amount of people buying in the UK instead of buying local.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    The figures mentioned don't even warrant talking about but I'll do it anyway.... 23k cost to change from a 141 530d to a 181 520i

    I don’t think I was too far away in my guesstimate of what they would be offering on trade in for the 530d so.
    530i/e would be much nicer although I’m sure a 520i goes well too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Yeah the 520i was a nice car and had plenty of go in it. It had 43950 on the window and a printout of Internet ad for 39950 in the window. Salesman said it was 39950 so I took it for a spin. When I got back he said its actually reduced to 35950 and offered me 13k for my own off that so 23k plus my own.
    Was nice being back in a petrol to be honest but the idea behind the 530e is that I would easily cover my work commute in one which obviously the 520i can't.
    To be honest the 4 year old 530d was the most expensive car I've ever bought at 20k so might wait a while for prices to come down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,922 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    It's actually nice to see the 320i and 520i making a small comeback. I see a few 320i new models in stock so they must be shifting a few.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,069 ✭✭✭Casati


    Yeah the 520i was a nice car and had plenty of go in it. It had 43950 on the window and a printout of Internet ad for 39950 in the window. Salesman said it was 39950 so I took it for a spin. When I got back he said its actually reduced to 35950 and offered me 13k for my own off that so 23k plus my own.
    Was nice being back in a petrol to be honest but the idea behind the 530e is that I would easily cover my work commute in one which obviously the 520i can't.
    To be honest the 4 year old 530d was the most expensive car I've ever bought at 20k so might wait a while for prices to come down.

    Interesting that you thought the 520i had plenty of go, I’d say the 530e would be lovely. In fairness you car sounds great too so you will be better off hanging onto it for a bit longer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Casati wrote: »
    Yeah the 520i was a nice car and had plenty of go in it. It had 43950 on the window and a printout of Internet ad for 39950 in the window. Salesman said it was 39950 so I took it for a spin. When I got back he said its actually reduced to 35950 and offered me 13k for my own off that so 23k plus my own.
    Was nice being back in a petrol to be honest but the idea behind the 530e is that I would easily cover my work commute in one which obviously the 520i can't.
    To be honest the 4 year old 530d was the most expensive car I've ever bought at 20k so might wait a while for prices to come down.

    Interesting that you thought the 520i had plenty of go, I’d say the 530e would be lovely. In fairness you car sounds great too so you will be better off hanging onto it for a bit longer

    It wasn't short of power at all was quite a nice drive. I had an e60 523i before the 530d and the 520i had as much power easily. One thing about the g30 though is that it's certainly not a patch on the interior of the new Audi A6, that's a stunner of an interior best I've ever been in.
    It's a step up from the f10 slightly though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    mickdw wrote: »
    It's actually nice to see the 320i and 520i making a small comeback. I see a few 320i new models in stock so they must be shifting a few.

    I agree. Whether it’s electric petrol or hybrid, I will definitely not be buying a diesel again. I still think 520d I have is a great all rounder but diesel is not the future for mainstream motoring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,069 ✭✭✭Casati


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    I agree. Whether it’s electric petrol or hybrid, I will definitely not be buying a diesel again. I still think 520d I have is a great all rounder but diesel is not the future for mainstream motoring.

    I wouldnt right off diesel just yet but it certainly doesn’t suit all drivers who have bought them, at the moment looking at new 5 series the best all rounder is still the 520d, on the Irish config the 520i isn’t listed at all and the 530i is a lot dearer, while the 530e although great doesn’t have a big enough boot for that sector

    I’m surprised that the S90 T8 doesn’t sell in larger numbers, the performance is amazing, and I see Volvo are discounting pre reg models buy over 20k so they must not be moving many


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    Might sell more of them if and when the price of petrol/diesel becomes the same.
    Nice looking car but any tests I’ve read have said that it doesn’t fell 400hp to drive.
    Volvo are making some very nice cars, something I wouldn’t have thought a few years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Casati wrote: »
    carsfan2 wrote: »
    I agree. Whether it’s electric petrol or hybrid, I will definitely not be buying a diesel again. I still think 520d I have is a great all rounder but diesel is not the future for mainstream motoring.

    I wouldnt right off diesel just yet but it certainly doesn’t suit all drivers who have bought them, at the moment looking at new 5 series the best all rounder is still the 520d, on the Irish config the 520i isn’t listed at all and the 530i is a lot dearer, while the 530e although great doesn’t have a big enough boot for that sector

    I’m surprised that the S90 T8 doesn’t sell in larger numbers, the performance is amazing, and I see Volvo are discounting pre reg models buy over 20k so they must not be moving many

    The 520i I drove was a UK import going by the speedo setup but I'm sure it can be reconfigured because its digital. Can't see the sense of a 520i in Ireland with the grants available for the 530e. A bigger boot is the only advantage everything else is inferior


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭digiman


    The figures mentioned don't even warrant talking about but I'll do it anyway.... 23k cost to change from a 141 530d to a 181 520i

    What's the spec on your own? My brother is looking for a new car at the moment if you are thinking of selling privately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,922 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    The 520i might prove to be a slightly more reliable long term driver.
    While the electric part of the 530e may well be more reliable than the turbo bits of the engine, I would generally be more fearful of running the 530e out of warranty versus a 520i. I'd imagine you would be pretty snookered regarding where you could get those fixed if there were electric issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,609 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The 520i is turbo charged also afaik.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    bazz26 wrote: »
    The 520i is turbo charged also afaik.

    Is the 520i and 530i not the same engine essentially with the 30i in a higher output?
    I’m guessing the 520 could be easily remapped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,922 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    bazz26 wrote: »
    The 520i is turbo charged also afaik.
    Yes it is. My point was that even if the 520i is a turbo and could possibly go wrong just as much as the electric parts, it's still likely to be easier to fix that the 530e that will likely mean main dealer if anything wrong relating to the hybrid system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,609 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    Is the 520i and 530i not the same engine essentially with the 30i in a higher output?
    I’m guessing the 520 could be easily remapped.

    Yes, it's the same lump used in the 520i/530i and 530e. Larger turbo and injectors afaik for the 530i.
    mickdw wrote: »
    Yes it is. My point was that even if the 520i is a turbo and could possibly go wrong just as much as the electric parts, it's still likely to be easier to fix that the 530e that will likely mean main dealer if anything wrong relating to the hybrid system.

    I get what your saying now, the electrification parts certainly add additional complexity but it seems to be the way things are going. Audi have started fitting mild hybrid electric motors on their new diesel models now too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    digiman wrote: »
    The figures mentioned don't even warrant talking about but I'll do it anyway.... 23k cost to change from a 141 530d to a 181 520i

    What's the spec on your own? My brother is looking for a new car at the moment if you are thinking of selling privately.

    It's just not enough of a step up from f10 to g30 and chatting with the missus today we are probably going to hang on to it. She (probably rightly) questioned why I want to borrow now after wiping out most of my savings last year buying it. In fairness it was my dream car last year when I bought it and I suppose it still is. I think I'll wait for cars I want to come closer to the 20k mark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    I’ve been looking online again at the Tesla.
    62k for the Tesla model 3 performance seems like great value for massive performance and great spec and tech.3.5 seconds to sixty and over 300 mile range, Then when I read the forums etc it seems quality is still an issue with loads of the cars that have been delivered even lately and I worry about customer back up post delivery.
    Any chance you might get a test of one Mark and what do you think of them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭blingrhino


    Do you think they look "cheap " inside compared to a merc ,bmw ,audi etc ?

    understand the minimal look but somehow i would feel shortchanged on a 62k car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭millington


    The figures mentioned don't even warrant talking about but I'll do it anyway.... 23k cost to change from a 141 530d to a 181 520i

    13k for a 2014 530d :eek: How do people afford to do these things?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,530 ✭✭✭MarkN


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    I’ve been looking online again at the Tesla.
    62k for the Tesla model 3 performance seems like great value for massive performance and great spec and tech.3.5 seconds to sixty and over 300 mile range, Then when I read the forums etc it seems quality is still an issue with loads of the cars that have been delivered even lately and I worry about customer back up post delivery.
    Any chance you might get a test of one Mark and what do you think of them?

    If you’re coming from a BMW or Audi etc you will miss build quality and feeling of class. That’s not to say the 3 wasn’t nice - it was. A few car review people were booked in including myself and then we got word to say all the demos were sold. Hard to know what the deal was there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    millington wrote: »
    The figures mentioned don't even warrant talking about but I'll do it anyway.... 23k cost to change from a 141 530d to a 181 520i

    13k for a 2014 530d :eek: How do people afford to do these things?

    Well I can't afford to do it so I'm not going ahead with it. However it was 36k for a 181 520i msport with 14000 miles so its a 23k cost to change or 5,750 to come up each year. Although a 530d is a dearer beast than a 520i new so you're prob talking 7k a year like for like between a 1 year old and a 5 year old. It cost me 18k to go from a 2006 523i msport, which I got 2k for, to a 20k 2014 530d msport which I have now. Might change again when cost to change is in the region of 10k
    Just doesn't make sense at the moment for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Well I can't afford to do it so I'm not going ahead with it. However it was 36k for a 181 520i msport with 14000 miles so its a 23k cost to change or 5,750 to come up each year. Although a 530d is a dearer beast than a 520i new so you're prob talking 7k a year like for like between a 1 year old and a 5 year old. It cost me 18k to go from a 2006 523i msport, which I got 2k for, to a 20k 2014 530d msport which I have now. Might change again when cost to change is in the region of 10k
    Just doesn't make sense at the moment for me

    Similar gig here. Came from an '05 E61 523i Sport to a 2013 F11 530d Sport. Sold the E61 privately and paid €22.5k for the F11 last year. Can't see myself looking at changing for at least 18 months.

    Specced up a G31 530d Sport X-Drive there recently, wasn't long getting up to €85k :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    I took the plunge and went "next" and just bought a mrk 3 mx5. Great little car, changes direction so fast but with the short wheel base it's very snappy on the limit which means it's more nerve wracking to push on in a corner. Car feels like it will oversteer slightly instead of being more neutral with the 50/50 weight distribution. And with the driving seat just in front of the rear axle you are further back from the pivot point at the from wheels so you move more compared to a car with back seats. Not as pleasant tbh. Stock suspension feels reasonably stiff.

    Engine feels pokey in the mid range but the engine is not that economical (low 30 mpgs with mixed driving). Engine noisey enough above 4500rpm, almost like it's not enjoying it. All the controls feel very tight.

    Can't adjust seat height strangely but it's grand as I'm 6ft 2. You sit low down and can't really see the front of the car. The bonnet could be long, like from an e type jag for example and you wouldn't know.

    No storage in doors apart from cup holders which is annoying. Despite huge wheel arch clearances you sit really far down close to the road. You have to climb out effectively. Sun visor can't be rotated to block sun if shining through the side windows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,571 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Saw the new 3 series yesterday. The thing dude wise , looks like a noddy car ! 50,000 for the entry level in an m sport for a 3 series ?! Looooollllllllll! What’ll that be worth in 3 years ?! 20,000-25,000?


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    Idbatterim wrote: »
    .............50,000 for the entry level in an m sport for a 3 series ?! Looooollllllllll! What’ll that be worth in 3 years ?! 20,000-25,000?

    GFMV for BMWs are generally 45% and there's often little actual equity so you are not far out in your estimates.
    New cars depreciate lots in the first 3 years........... shocker.


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