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All Ireland Senior Hurling (Liam Mccarthy Cup) 2019

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  • #4712
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭threeball


    cjmc wrote: »
    The first 20 mins or so there looked to be only one winner. Kilkenny backs were getting everything then the red card . Also thought the first goal could have been saved easily enough. But in the second half tipp played a more effective game and deservedly won easily enough in the end. Rain didn't help

    This is even remotely correct. Tipp had already come from 5 down to be a point in front when the red card was given. Kk were already in trouble. Tipp also should have had a penalty for the round the neck challenge on Callinan. The red card just exacerbated a problem that was already well under way for KK. The tipp back six were getting on top and their forwards starting to find space. Having Hogan they'd still have been beaten but only by a couple of points less.


  • #4713
    ClanofLams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    Limpy wrote: »
    No it's all settled who will get HOTY and the all stars?

    It wil be the softest all star for any player in a long time.

    Callanan HOTY

    Couple of Wexford lads Chin and O’Keefe

    Couple of Limerick lads Gillane and Sean Finn

    Pat Horgan

    Maybe 4 kk? Lawlor Parraig Walsh TJ Colin Fennelly

    Six Tipp Brian Hogan, Ronan Maher, Brendan Maher, Noel McGrath, John O’Dwyer, Callanan

    All stars off top of my head so probably missing someone obvious or have one from one line too many


  • #4714
    Seadin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭Seadin


    Hogan or no Hogan. Kilkenny were completely destroyed. They had no answers.


  • #4715
    Cypher_sounds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,284 ✭✭✭Cypher_sounds


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    Since when ?

    'I hate Kilkenny...'

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91662346&postcount=364

    Only seeing this now as I went out for dinner just after the second half started.
    Jeez the middle of an all Ireland hurling final you delve deep into my post history from 5 years ago. :pac: Quite sad really. Did you actually have nothing better to do?

    Looking back on that post I was actually defending a Kilkenny player there which shows my unbiased.

    To answer your question since about 2 to 3 years ago.


  • #4716
    big_drive
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭big_drive


    ClanofLams wrote: »
    Callanan HOTY

    Couple of Wexford lads Chin and O’Keefe

    Couple of Limerick lads Gillane and Sean Finn

    Pat Horgan

    Maybe 4 kk? Lawlor Parraig Walsh TJ Colin Fennelly

    Six Tipp Brian Hogan, Ronan Maher, Brendan Maher, Noel McGrath, John O’Dwyer, Callanan

    All stars off top of my head so probably missing someone obvious or have one from one line too many

    Agree with most of those except goalie. I’d say it will be Rowland from Laois. I’d have Quaid, Murphy, fanning all ahead of hogan


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  • #4717
    99problems1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 391 ✭✭99problems1


    What happened to RTEs rule of not having pundits who are from the counties that are playing??

    Shefflin was completely biased and bitter. The rules of hurling are the rules of the game whether it's a dead rubber league game or the final of the all ireland. You can't just change the rules because it might make the game a better spectacle for neutrals or because the game might be ruined with a red card.

    But I knew when the red card happened that Shefflin was never in a million years going to go against his buddies and say it was a deserved red.


  • #4718
    RMAOK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭RMAOK


    big_drive wrote: »
    Agree with most of those except goalie. I’d say it will be Rowland from Laois. I’d have Quaid, Murphy, fanning all ahead of hogan

    What about eoin Murphy from Kilkenny?


  • #4719
    big_drive
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭big_drive


    RMAOK wrote: »
    What about eoin Murphy from Kilkenny?

    I mentioned him


  • #4720
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,498 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Shefflin embarrassed himself. Instead of asking why did Hogan make such a rash decision and get himself sent off and cost his team, he brought the integrity of the referee into question. Embarrassing and biased.


  • #4721
    PhuckHugh22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭PhuckHugh22


    Funny that the KK lads were laughing last week that Tipp lads are just full of excuses for defeats and all I see for last 3 pages was excuses.

    Well done Tipp. Fair play to both teams and all players in the championship this year another great year of hurling.

    Will our year ever come. From a frustrated Waterford man.


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  • #4722
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,498 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Why do Sunday game pundits give out about referees not being consistent, and then when they apply the actual rules they say that they should apply common sense (i.e. ignore the rules to suit the situation).


  • #4723
    PhuckHugh22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭PhuckHugh22


    Brian Hogan is a moral certainty to get the all star


  • #4724
    ClanofLams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    Think Murphy is the best goalkeeper in the country but think Hogan will probably get the All Star, despite puck out struggles early on today. No goals conceded in four out of eight championship games including All Ireland final is impressive, they like to share them around a bit I think too.

    Murphy has conceded three goals in three games this year. Don’t think many of those were his fault but hard to say on face of it that it’s all star form.


  • #4725
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    Cypher_sounds wrote: »
    Only seeing this now as I went out for dinner just after the second half started.
    Jeez the middle of an all Ireland hurling final you delve deep into my post history from 5 years ago. :pac: Quite sad really. Did you actually have nothing better to do?

    Looking back on that post I was actually defending a Kilkenny player there which shows my unbiased.

    To answer your question since about 2 to 3 years ago.

    5 years ago. But leopards never change their spots etc and criticising a refereeing decision is not defending a Kilkenny player.

    Indeed 'I hate Kilkenny but...' shows how unbiased you are.

    Anyway, it took less than five seconds.

    Click on Username - Click on Find More Posts By... - Click on GAA in forums.

    Bye now !


  • #4726
    Comhrá
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    I thought Cody was a bit ungracious in his post game interview.

    No word of congrats to Tipp, just saying how well his team played, casts aspersions on the sending off decision, and then says it twice.

    For a manager so used to the accolades, he sounded very sour and bitter in defeat..

    https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/brian-cody-youd-want-sure-red-card-205235


  • #4727
    big_drive
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭big_drive


    ClanofLams wrote: »
    Think Murphy is the best goalkeeper in the country but think Hogan will probably get the All Star, despite puck out struggles early on today. No goals conceded in four out of eight championship games including All Ireland final is impressive, they like to share them around a bit I think too.

    Murphy has conceded three goals in three games this year. Don’t think many of those were his fault but hard to say on face of it that it’s all star form.

    I really wouldn’t rate Hogan that highly. Think he’s an average enough goalie, not bad just not on the level of Quaid, Nash , Murphy


  • #4728
    tastyt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭tastyt


    Comhra wrote: »
    I thought Cody was a bit ungracious in his post game interview.

    No word of congrats to Tipp, just saying how well his team played, casts

    aspersions on the sending off decision, and then says it twice.

    For a manager so used to the accolades, he sounded very sour and bitter in defeat..

    https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/brian-cody-youd-want-sure-red-card-205235

    Cody's an ignorant prick

    He knows sheedy has always had his number


  • #4729
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Why do Sunday game pundits give out about referees not being consistent, and then when they apply the actual rules they say that they should apply common sense (i.e. ignore the rules to suit the situation).

    Totally agree. Richie Hogan done Barrett. Its that simple. He caught him in the head with a high tackle. Hogan will know himself looking back on it. It was the correct call by Owens and his linesman.


  • #4730
    BloodyBill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭BloodyBill


    big_drive wrote: »
    Agree with most of those except goalie. I’d say it will be Rowland from Laois. I’d have Quaid, Murphy, fanning all ahead of hogan

    John O Dwyer and Noel McGrath didn't puck a ball in the Munster final.


  • #4731
    Sheep breeder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    99problems1 wrote: »
    What happened to RTEs rule of not having pundits who are from the counties that are playing??

    Shefflin was completely biased and bitter. The rules of hurling are the rules of the game whether it's a dead rubber league game or the final of the all ireland. You can't just change the rules because it might make the game a better spectacle for neutrals or because the game might be ruined with a red card.

    But I knew when the red card happened that Shefflin was never in a million years going to go against his buddies and say it was a deserved red.

    Henry could do nothing else only defend if ever wants to manage Kilkenny and the people would never forgive him, he was foolish to let himself be put on the panel today and no tipp person on the panel.


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  • #4732
    PhuckHugh22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭PhuckHugh22


    Can we start a Tommy Walsh appreciation thread. The man is gold.

    https://twitter.com/MaireTNC/status/1163098052422512640?s=19


  • #4733
    ClanofLams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    big_drive wrote: »
    I really wouldn’t rate Hogan that highly. Think he’s an average enough goalie, not bad just not on the level of Quaid, Nash , Murphy

    Yeah but winning team gets more all stars, it’s not just the best player in every position. Cork aren’t getting more than one and Horgan is a cert. Don’t think Murphy is getting on the number of goals conceded alone, rightly or wrongly. Though it’s hard to say Huw Lawlor should get one if you’re thinking that way I guess.

    Quaid is probably his main competition. He might get it alright but just think four ‘clean sheets’ including final will be enough for Hogan to get over line especially when Quaid got it last year, which seems to be a factor though shouldn’t be.


  • #4734
    ClanofLams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    BloodyBill wrote: »
    John O Dwyer and Noel McGrath didn't puck a ball in the Munster final.

    It’s semi finals and finals that really count. McGrath man of the match in semi, O’Dwyer very good too. Both good today. McGrath is nailed on cert think O’Dwyer gets one too.


  • #4735
    Mysterypunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Congrats to Tipp, no arguments much the better side, Joanne Cantwell is excellent, Henry Shefflin talks some rubbish.


  • #4736
    seligehgit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    PhuckHugh22 wrote: »
    Can we start a Tommy Walsh appreciation thread. The man is gold.

    https://twitter.com/MaireTNC/status/1163098052422512640?s=19

    He's a legend!


  • #4737
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Red card was very harsh.

    But Tipp in full flight is some sight to see.


    Once they settled they were class today.


  • #4738
    Car99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Car99


    What happened hogans nose? He didnt seem to be marked before leaving the pitch.

    Edit. Just read on KK website Barrett did it in earlier confrontation.


  • #4739
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Red card was very harsh.

    But Tipp in full flight is some sight to see.


    Once they settled they were class today.

    not sure how its harsh. he intentionally put his arm out to hit him. it couldnt be clearer. he set out to injure his oposition. if it was an accident then yes but it wasnt.


  • #4740
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭threeball


    BloodyBill wrote: »
    big_drive wrote: »
    Agree with most of those except goalie. I’d say it will be Rowland from Laois. I’d have Quaid, Murphy, fanning all ahead of hogan

    John O Dwyer and Noel McGrath didn't puck a ball in the Munster final.

    They picked enough on the day that mattered.


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  • #4741
    washman3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    ClanofLams wrote: »
    Yeah but winning team gets more all stars, it’s not just the best player in every position. Cork aren’t getting more than one and Horgan is a cert. Don’t think Murphy is getting on the number of goals conceded alone, rightly or wrongly. Though it’s hard to say Huw Lawlor should get one if you’re thinking that way I guess.

    Quaid is probably his main competition. He might get it alright but just think four ‘clean sheets’ including final will be enough for Hogan to get over line especially when Quaid got it last year, which seems to be a factor though shouldn’t be.


    Quaid did not get one last year. Murphy did, and deservedly so. Quaid has'nt won an All-Star.
    Hogan a cert for me this year.
    Expect Tipp to get 5, just like Limerick last year. Seems to be the run of things now. The days of AI winners getting 8-10 awards are gone.


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