Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2019/2020

Agent Coulson · 13-08-2019 04:08PM

Reddy is reporting Klopp wants a clearer pathway to first team football for Sepp that’s why he is happy to let Lovren go.

The young lad must be showing something in training since he joined.

Harry Palmr · 13-08-2019 04:18PM

As I said....:)

Dickerty · 13-08-2019 04:21PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Reddy is reporting Klopp wants a clearer pathway to first team football for Sepp that’s why he is happy to let Lovren go.

The young lad must be showing something in training since he joined.

I mean, if that doesn't hugely backfire, that's brilliant. Same for not replacing Clyne, Sturridge or Moreno, cause we have quality kids who will benefit from the games. He's building a roadmap for the next decade, not just looking at a single season.

shamrock55 · 13-08-2019 04:24PM

Just watching a thing on Dalglish and how he was the first player/manager to lead a team out in fá Cup final, and got me thinking has there ever been another player/manager in the English or any other top flight, didn't seem unusual at the time but it was obviously very rare cos I can't think of any others before or since, I think maybe gullit for Chelsea for a bit but I'm not sure on that

gibgodsman · 13-08-2019 04:27PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Just watching a thing on Dalglish and how he was the first player/manager to lead a team out in fá Cup final, and got me thinking has there ever been another player/manager in the English or any other top flight, didn't seem unusual at the time but it was obviously very rare cos I can't think of any others before or since, I think maybe gullit for Chelsea for a bit but I'm not sure on that

Gullit won the FA Cup as a player manager for Chelsea

Osmosis Jones · 13-08-2019 04:27PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Just watching a thing on Dalglish and how he was the first player/manager to lead a team out in fup final, and got me thinking has there ever been another player/manager in the English or any other top flight, didn't seem unusual at the time but it was obviously very rare cos I can't think of any others before or since, I think maybe gullit for Chelsea for a bit but I'm not sure on that

I think Giggs might have been a player manager for the last month of the season Moyes was fired in.

gibgodsman · 13-08-2019 04:31PM

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

I think Giggs might have been a player manager for the last month of the season Moyes was fired in.

4 Games and won 2, Alan Shearer is the same standard

8-10 · 13-08-2019 04:34PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Just watching a thing on Dalglish and how he was the first player/manager to lead a team out in fá Cup final, and got me thinking has there ever been another player/manager in the English or any other top flight, didn't seem unusual at the time but it was obviously very rare cos I can't think of any others before or since, I think maybe gullit for Chelsea for a bit but I'm not sure on that

Gullit & Vialli for Chelsea and Hoddle was player manager too in the 90's - was it at Palace?

Edit: Nope, Chelsea also - they loved player-managers in the 90's!

Fitz* · 13-08-2019 04:40PM

John Terry took charge of Chelsea for 20 mins in one game that he played in.

gibgodsman · 13-08-2019 04:41PM

8-10 wrote: »

Gullit & Vialli for Chelsea and Hoddle was player manager too in the 90's - was it at Palace?

Edit: Nope, Chelsea also - they loved player-managers in the 90's!

Sure their best player manager ever was Kepa Arrizabalaga :pac:

Agent Coulson · 13-08-2019 04:42PM

FitzShane wrote: »

John Terry took charge of Chelsea for 20 mins in one game that he played in.

As did Kepa in the league cup final.

Agent Coulson · 13-08-2019 04:57PM

There is a couple wing/forward free agents might be worth taking a punt on two lads called Markovic & Assaidi and a center forward called Mario.

The one some of us always wanted at one time Honda

Ribery is also a free agent

Ste- · 13-08-2019 05:02PM

Wayne Rooney for Derby maybe in the future?

I feel dirty for typing that sentence.

Raisins · 13-08-2019 05:08PM

Letting lovren go for 15m is a brilliant decision if we pull it off. It’s a sign of how well the club is run. It just won’t allow an old 4th choice injury prone throw back to the Rogers regime sit there on 100k a week to make mistakes in the league cup. It’s in massive contrast to utd who now have about 100 centre halves to get rid of.

dmigsy · 13-08-2019 05:25PM

Initially, and purely from a playing perspective, it seems mad to sell Lovren without a replacement but when you look at the stats, finances and his current position in the pecking order, it makes sense.

From a business perspective it's a straightforward decision to sell; big salary, lot's of injuries last season, declining value.
Lovren played 986 mins in the league, plus a couple in cups last season so 10 - 15 games to cover if the CBs ahead of him have similar injury records to last season. Hopefully Gomez stays fit, otherwise Fabinho will fill in or else Hoever / Van der Berg will get a run out at CB.

Happy enough to not see him pull on the red shirt again if it goes through, he did ok for Liverpool. Italy will likely suit him. A little slower, a little less frantic. He'll do well there. Just don't do a loan with the option to buy!

The Good Ole Boys · 13-08-2019 06:44PM

Simon Mignolet's Club Brugge are 1-0 down in Kyiv! I hope he can get into champion league.

Riesen_Meal · 13-08-2019 06:55PM

Oh FFS

All we need...

https://twitter.com/MaddockMirror/status/1161332194645880833?s=20

rob316 · 13-08-2019 06:59PM

gibgodsman wrote: »

To be honest its some decent business by Barca, Neymar, while being a twat, has a brand of his own, similar to players like Ronaldo and Messi, while no where near as good, he brings in huge amounts of fans and with that merchandise sales.

Rakitic is 31? They already replaced him, Coutinho has never settled, and was going to be sold or loaned out anyway. So 100m plus players leaving anyway, some good business.

PSG want rid of the problem child anyway id say.

shamrock55 · 13-08-2019 07:12PM

Been a few bit part player/managers it seems, but didn't Kenny play most games in 86/87 that would have been very unusual to be playing most games and to be successful too of course by winning the double
Don't think we'll ever see the likes again in modern football

shamrock55 · 13-08-2019 07:14PM

Fieldog wrote: »

Oh FFS

All we need...

https://twitter.com/MaddockMirror/status/1161332194645880833?s=20

Jesus christ Keita is a disastet

ERG89 · 13-08-2019 07:17PM

Fieldog wrote: »

Oh FFS

All we need...

https://twitter.com/MaddockMirror/status/1161332194645880833?s=20

The Good Ole Boys · 13-08-2019 07:26PM

ERG89 wrote: »

What this mean?

ERG89 · 13-08-2019 07:33PM

The Good Ole Boys wrote: »

What this mean?

Basically sarcasm that he was really fit in the first place. He's constantly getting injured so I'm glad that we have enough midfielders in the squad to cover & he's not someone who we might need to play in defence when we have injuries there.

Riesen_Meal · 13-08-2019 07:51PM

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1161345011440660486?s=20

All the feels, love this club to death...

~Rebel~ · 13-08-2019 08:06PM

gibgodsman wrote: »

To be honest its some decent business by Barca, Neymar, while being a twat, has a brand of his own, similar to players like Ronaldo and Messi, while no where near as good, he brings in huge amounts of fans and with that merchandise sales.

Rakitic is 31? They already replaced him, Coutinho has never settled, and was going to be sold or loaned out anyway. So 100m plus players leaving anyway, some good business.

Honestly think it's a genuinely terrible deal for them... they're effectively spending more than what they got for him a few years ago, and are getting back an older, more troublesome, and constantly injured version. He's spent more than half of his time with PSG out injured - and is still out injured. So at this point in time right now, he's been injured for 9 months straight, after being injured for 6 months straight the previous year. And it's ankle problems too, which are notoriously hard to properly get rid of. Especially for nimble, quick footed players like him, because there's constant pressure put on a tiny area from both his own weight and all the momentum of his speed every time he does a quick movement, which his entire game is based upon.

They'd have been far far far better off doing whatever they needed to do to get Mbappe instead. Far more resilient, far younger, equally good.

Fitz* · 13-08-2019 08:51PM

Keita was rushed back from injury to play in AFCON. He was captain too, so a massive cog in their team. I think being rushed back is having an affect on him now.

Well they, or else his muscles do break down a lot, which is a big worry.

Knex* · 13-08-2019 08:58PM

Dickerty wrote: »

For every person saying "Why are we leaving ourselves short?" there is one saying "Good riddance always injured and error prone" and another saying "The kids can only improve if they get games". As always, I reckon Klopp knows what he's doing...

What if he's just making it all up? What if he's just absolutely winging it, like a normal person?

Not a ****ing clue what the overall picture is, but just goes to work every day and sees what happens.

That'd be gas.

Knex* · 13-08-2019 09:02PM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Honestly think it's a genuinely terrible deal for them... they're effectively spending more than what they got for him a few years ago, and are getting back an older, more troublesome, and constantly injured version. He's spent more than half of his time with PSG out injured - and is still out injured. So at this point in time right now, he's been injured for 9 months straight, after being injured for 6 months straight the previous year. And it's ankle problems too, which are notoriously hard to properly get rid of. Especially for nimble, quick footed players like him, because there's constant pressure put on a tiny area from both his own weight and all the momentum of his speed every time he does a quick movement, which his entire game is based upon.

They'd have been far far far better off doing whatever they needed to do to get Mbappe instead. Far more resilient, far younger, equally good.

If this deal goes through, the whole Neymar saga of the past few years has been absolutely bonkers.

13-08-2019 09:04PM

Mignolet went through with Brugge. 4-3 on agg.

Agent Coulson · 13-08-2019 09:04PM

I think we have come out best of the original Neymar transfer.

Neymar to PSG for 220m Barca use 140m of that for Coutinho which Liverpool use to buy the players which turn them into European Champions.

Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2019/2020

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