Why is getting a rare steak such an impossibility in Ireland?

Giblet · 07-08-2019 05:37PM

tuxy wrote: »

So your favourite cut is round steak?
I guess some people like it to be really tough and chewy. Personally I like fillet.
What cut does everyone else usually buy?

Fillet is like chewing cardboard, no flavour. Best cut is usually ribeye.

Grandeeod · 07-08-2019 05:59PM

Giblet wrote: »

Fillet is like chewing cardboard, no flavour. Best cut is usually ribeye.

Ah I'd disagree with you there Giblet. While I like most cuts of steak, fillet remains my favourite, but I mostly buy Sirloin due to the cost of fillet. That said I bought two fillets yesterday. Having the second one tonight. Its currently sitting at room temp after a seasoning of salt and black pepper.

Grandeeod · 07-08-2019 06:02PM

tuxy wrote: »

So your favourite cut is round steak?
I guess some people like it to be really tough and chewy. Personally I like fillet.
What cut does everyone else usually buy?

My most bought cut is Sirloin. Its great value if you want a monster steak on the plate. My fave cut is fillet. But pricey if you want a big piece. I use round steak for stir fry, but velvetise it first so its not chewy as feck. My least fave is striploin.

Strumms · 07-08-2019 06:39PM

tuxy wrote: »

I gave up on buying stake while out. It really is so simple to cook it to your own preference but very difficult to order it the way you like in Ireland unless you like it burnt to a crisp.
Lots of other things on the menu that chefs here usually get right.

THIS.... restaurants here and cooking steak 😫

OneArt · 07-08-2019 06:42PM

stateofflux wrote: »

I cry a little inside when i hear people ordering a fillet steak well done.

I fully support their right to eat well-done steak.

But it almost makes me fly into murderous rage.

Grandeeod · 07-08-2019 07:00PM

OneArt wrote: »

I fully support their right to eat well-done steak.

But it almost makes me fly into murderous rage.

It's an inherited ignorance IMHO. I'm in my late 40s and didn't get much steak until I was working and could afford the odd eating out experience. When having steak, "well done" was the go to setting. When I think about how much tasteless crap I paid good money for.:rolleyes: I only started to appreciate a decent steak when I took an interest in cooking. I'm content with how I cook it, whatever the cut. Not a complete blood bath, but I need to have the dark juices running from it as it stands. Some people just think that to be cooked, it has to be dry and require sauce to moisten it.

I'm on a spoil myself roll this week and having a second fillet steak tonight. A light salad and yes chips, but I won't need a sauce. The steak juices will do the trick.

Potential-Monke · 07-08-2019 07:13PM

I like my food cooked. Simple as that. Raw/rare does not appeal to me in the slightest. And that's ok. it's everyone's own opinion. I think the lot of ye are mad for eating uncooked meat, but each to their own. And don't bother trying to convince me otherwise, I've had this argument too many times to care anymore.

tuxy · 07-08-2019 07:16PM

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I think the lot of ye are mad for eating uncooked meat, .

Is it the taste of rare steak you don't like or the texture?

the beer revolu · 07-08-2019 07:16PM

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I like my food cooked. Simple as that. Raw/rare does not appeal to me in the slightest. And that's ok. it's everyone's own opinion. I think the lot of ye are mad for eating uncooked meat, but each to their own. And don't bother trying to convince me otherwise, I've had this argument too many times to care anymore.

Genuine question. No judgement intended.
Have you ever eaten a rare or medium rare steak?

Potential-Monke · 07-08-2019 07:26PM

tuxy wrote: »

Is it the taste of rare steak you don't like or the texture?

the beer revolu wrote: »

Genuine question. No judgement intended.
Have you ever eaten a rare or medium rare steak?

Yes, I have tried it. It's both the taste and texture. I know it sounds silly, but the taste of a rare steak just doesn't seem right to me. And the texture puts me right off, it doesn't feel like meat to me.

I saw a video recently of a lad who paid for a $5, $50 and $500 burger, and he said the texture of the $500 burger was like a marshmallow... I puked a little in my mouth. And iirc the $5 was the best.

07-08-2019 07:34PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

That said I bought two fillets yesterday. Having the second one tonight. Its currently sitting at room temp after a seasoning of salt and black pepper.

You're good to yourself.

Grandeeod · 07-08-2019 07:36PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You're good to yourself.

Nobody else is.:D

Markcheese · 07-08-2019 08:14PM

I had rib eye out, for the first time a couple of weeks ago, they suggested cooking it medium rare, (for the fat to render down), really really nice flavour ... (I'd usually go for very rare),
To be fair I've enjoyed steaks from raw to well done(just), and I've tried to (and failed) to send back a blue steak (for another flash on the grill), because it was still fridge cold in the middle,
Go with what you like...

Micky 32 · 07-08-2019 08:15PM

My girlfriend usually has the opposite problem. She likes hers very well done and always gets pink.!, no one seems to be able to do well done.

the beer revolu · 07-08-2019 08:27PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

My girlfriend usually has the opposite problem. She likes hers very well done and always gets pink.!, no one seems to be able to do well done.

A properly cooked well done steak should have just a tiny touch of pink in the middle.

Potential-Monke · 07-08-2019 08:44PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

A properly cooked well done steak should have just a tiny touch of pink in the middle.

No, a well done steak should have no pink, so it's well done! What's after well done if you don't want pink?

And it is 100% possible. A girl I was going out with years ago brought me as a +1 to a wedding in Bunratty House Hotel. Pure posh, I was completely out of place. The options were steak or fish, and I don't like fish much, so steak it was. Got a cylinder of steak, with about a 2 inch circumference and about 3 inches high. I wanted it well done (green sticker!) and out it came, perfectly brown all around and inside. No pink. So it is possible.

Debub · 07-08-2019 09:13PM

Rare (pink) burgers can be done if the meat is minced in-house just before cooking, same as for Tartare, like Bunsen do it.
Steak with fat can also be done rare, most good steaks will be atleast dry aged for 28 days, flavor gets intense, cooked on really very high heat to char the outside, melt fat to keep the steak moist and pink inside (example a good quality ribeye done by a good chef is great rare done) - like Wagyu. Have had deeply marbled (fat veins) 50 days aged steak rare done and the taste is awesome. Meat has to be of really good quality to enjoy a steak as rare done, to be eaten at places that you are sure that the quality is important/good. Just sharing my experience of eating (and cooking) steak in some really good places globally.

El_Duderino 09 · 07-08-2019 10:58PM

Potential-Monke wrote: »

No, a well done steak should have no pink, so it's well done! What's after well done if you don't want pink?

What's after well done? Very well done with no juice.

tuxy · 07-08-2019 11:00PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What's after well done? Very well done with no juice.

There is nothing after well done except burnt. Well done is already mostly dried up. Medium is the one with a small bit of pink in the centre.

Edgware · 07-08-2019 11:03PM

tuxy wrote: »

There is nothing after well done except burnt. Well done is already mostly dried up. Medium is the one with a small bit of pink in the centre.

"a small bit of pink in the centre" Oooooh Vicar!

the beer revolu · 08-08-2019 09:47AM

tuxy wrote: »

There is nothing after well done except burnt. Well done is already mostly dried up. Medium is the one with a small bit of pink in the centre.

No, medium is quite pink in the centre.
Well done has a hint of pink in the very centre.
Very well done has no trace of pink.

tuxy · 08-08-2019 12:55PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

No, medium is quite pink in the centre.
Well done has a hint of pink in the very centre.
Very well done has no trace of pink.

Yes I made mistake there, I meant to say medium well is slightly pink in the centre. Very will done is not a thing it's just a way of saying burnt.

the beer revolu · 08-08-2019 01:06PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

No, medium is quite pink in the centre.
Well done has a hint of pink in the very centre.
Very well done has no trace of pink.

On doing a bit of research, it depends on where you get your information.
Some sources say well done has "little to no pink", other say "fully brown with no pink".

El_Duderino 09 · 08-08-2019 01:18PM

There appears to be some disagreement about how a steak should be cooked. So we (meaning everyone altogether) aren't holding chefs to the same standard. So 2 people could get the same steak cooked medium and have rate the chef very differently on how they cooked it to order.

Riskymove · 08-08-2019 01:23PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

There appears to be some disagreement about how a steak should be cooked. So we (meaning everyone altogether) aren't holding chefs to the same standard. So 2 people could get the same steak cooked medium and have rate the chef very differently on how they cooked it to order.

in fairness it is hardly the first time a thread argument on boards had its basis in the ignorance of people rather than their knowledge

Potential-Monke · 08-08-2019 01:27PM

I've googled, and the vast majority of images show a well done steak as having no pink. Medium well has some pink. Done = completely cooked = no pink.

Homelander · 08-08-2019 01:32PM

Perfect medium. Not sure why anyone would order well done, at that stage it's dry, chewy and lacking flavor.....unless for some reason they had no option but steak, and just don't like the pinkness/juice.

tuxy · 08-08-2019 01:34PM

Homelander wrote: »

Perfect medium. Not sure why anyone would order well done, at that stage it's dry, chewy and lacking flavor.....unless for some reason they had no option but steak, and just don't like the pinkness/juice.

At that stage a burger has much more flavor and there nothing wrong with burgers, burgers are great too and much cheaper.

Potential-Monke · 08-08-2019 01:38PM

I don't know why ye keep saying a well done steak doesn't have flavour. It does.

08-08-2019 01:43PM

I've had all varieties of steak, cooked in different ways, and my default is always 'well done'. I much prefer it.

Dunno why people have an issue with that.

Why is getting a rare steak such an impossibility in Ireland?

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