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Where do you get your drinking water?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Perrier was 1990 so more than a week ago



    Dasani was 2004 and like a lot of bottled water it was little more than this

    I understand that but why post a list that was already posted a number of times and try to link a completely unrelated point?
    The celtic pure water comes from a well, if it came from the tap it wouldn't contain high levels of arsenic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭madmaggie


    hmm, Pesticides used in the field? - cryptosporidium that live in animal guts and digestive tract and then they poop it out? , slurry spreading? - no, I dont think I would be drinking any water in a field
    No chemicals used in the area, no animals in the vicinity, no slurry spreading. Been drinking itfor fifty years. I know it could happen, but I love that water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    madmaggie wrote: »
    No chemicals used in the area, no animals in the vicinity, no slurry spreading. Been drinking itfor fifty years. I know it could happen, but I love that water.

    well if you have been drinking it for 50 years and your still alive and well I guess its OK then :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    I should check and double check my facts but here I go anyway, the reason I hear that its been going on for so long (and there are a lot of rumours as you can guess) but is that the water company applied for planning permission to build a new treatment plant at the location of the lough , but there was an endangered type of snail in the lough where the drinking water comes from for the area .. so planning permission was refused.

    It seems these species of snails have more rights, than safe drinking water that humans can consume ...
    No you're right about the snail Andy. And best of all, that species is meant to be a carrier of Cryptosporidium and all.

    I'm in the same area as yourself. Have been lugging 5ltr bottles of water home from work in the daily. It's tough going with 3 small kids here, one a baby


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,712 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Water John wrote: »
    It depends in which part of the country you're Lidl shop is in. Lidl in the south of the country is not supplied by Celtic Pure.

    Yes if you are on holidays in the sun, if you put tap water in a clear bottle in the sunshine for 6 hours, all bacteria will be killed by the UV light.

    Can you give proof of this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    In most cases I have my doubts that bottled water is any better or safer than tap water.
    Public supply water here is regularly tested.

    It would seem so.
    Is it known if the recall was triggered by Celtic Pure, or was it down stream (;)) detection from retail by FSAI that caught this ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    It would seem so.
    Is it known if the recall was triggered by Celtic Pure, or was it down stream (;)) detection from retail by FSAI that caught this ?

    The report on the news said it was only one of the wells at the Co. Monahan plant that was contaminated.
    I don't know enough to have any idea what causes high arsenic levels in a well though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,997 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Proof of which? I have family working in Lidl.
    Second, look at my name. That Water refers to potable water.

    I have a vague recollection of arsenic being mentioned in relation to Monaghan in my past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    No you're right about the snail Andy. And best of all, that species is meant to be a carrier of Cryptosporidium and all.

    I'm in the same area as yourself. Have been lugging 5ltr bottles of water home from work in the daily. It's tough going with 3 small kids here, one a baby

    I bet it is , I really feel for you. I have been having the 5ltr bottled and my dogs have, but my wife and son still prefer the tap water over bottled or filtered water so they have been carrying on drinking it out of the tap all throughout the ban - I have been telling them they are silly to do so , but they havent had upset stomach, sickness or anything through drinking it - but yeah your right to be cautious having a baby and that - must have been / be a right pain.

    I have heard that supervalu in Boyle are refilling 5ltr bottles for 50cent if you bring them in , so I am going to look further into it and see if Whitesides Supervalu in Ballisodare can do the same or similar.

    Glencar water are also offering something similar as well in some of these areas if your interested and it helps, according to Lough Talt water warriors on Facebook.

    I will be glad wehn its all sorted out this new plant at lough gill , its not only a pain having to get these 5ltr bottles but also disposing the things afterwards having to put them into the recycling bins especially for families - some of these families recycling bins are overflowing with these empty bottles now!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Water John wrote: »
    Proof of which? I have family working in Lidl.
    Second, look at my name. That Water refers to potable water.

    What about Aldi?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,997 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    A dose of Crypto isn't funny. It only takes one of the buggers to cause it.
    Yeah, Tipp by and large has very good ground water.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Water John wrote: »
    A dose of Crypto isn't funny. It only takes one of the buggers to cause it.
    Yeah, Tipp by and large has very good ground water.

    Yeah I was thinking of Aldi where more water comes from Celtic Pure than the Tipperary source. I've not checked Lidl locally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Water John wrote: »
    A dose of Crypto isn't funny. It only takes one of the buggers to cause it.

    I know, I do keep telling them, but what can you do. if it looks right and clear they drink it! - only plus side is, on some site I read that if you have a healthy immune system if you get infected it might be a couple of days of diarrhoea and sickness and stomach ache , but supposed to be very bad for the old and young and people with impaired health


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,308 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Arsenic isn't a problem in the amounts being found in bottled water.
    Its above agreed limits, but miles away from poisoning you.
    Arsenic can be consumed in surprisingly high dosages, as long as its slowly built up to the higher levels, and was consumed in Victorian times as it gives you sleek glossy hair and a clear complexion.......

    Try getting it in your local chemist and you might run into trouble, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    I bet it is , I really feel for you. I have been having the 5ltr bottled and my dogs have, but my wife and son still prefer the tap water over bottled or filtered water so they have been carrying on drinking it out of the tap all throughout the ban - I have been telling them they are silly to do so , but they havent had upset stomach, sickness or anything through drinking it - but yeah your right to be cautious having a baby and that - must have been / be a right pain.

    I have heard that supervalu in Boyle are refilling 5ltr bottles for 50cent if you bring them in , so I am going to look further into it and see if Whitesides Supervalu in Ballisodare can do the same or similar.

    Glencar water are also offering something similar as well in some of these areas if your interested and it helps, according to Lough Talt water warriors on Facebook.

    I will be glad wehn its all sorted out this new plant at lough gill , its not only a pain having to get these 5ltr bottles but also disposing the things afterwards having to put them into the recycling bins especially for families - some of these families recycling bins are overflowing with these empty bottles now!

    I'm originally from Boyle myself. Over 2 yrs on a boil water notice there. Move to Tubbercurry then and another one!

    Give that water a wide berth mate, in Super Valu. It's been tested and found to be no more than tap water


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Arsenic isn't a problem in the amounts being found in bottled water.

    I figured as much as no one has been hospitalised. I assume the rules on low levels are in place to catch it in time and force the company to do something about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    I'm originally from Boyle myself. Over 2 yrs on a boil water notice there. Move to Tubbercurry then and another one!

    Give that water a wide berth mate, in Super Valu. It's been tested and found to be no more than tap water

    If it's tap water from a good source that may not be a bad deal if your own tap water is compromised. Better than wasting plastic anyway.
    Of course it's ridiculous that any tap water in a first word country is unsafe though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    I'm originally from Boyle myself. Over 2 yrs on a boil water notice there. Move to Tubbercurry then and another one!

    Give that water a wide berth mate, in Super Valu. It's been tested and found to be no more than tap water

    :eek: oh right thanks for the heads up - and thats bad news/bad luck about moving into a place that has another boil water notice!

    its terrible in this day and age in a developed country not being able to drink water out of the tap isnt it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,308 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    tuxy wrote: »
    I figured as much as no one has been hospitalised. I assume the rules on low levels are in place to catch it in time and force the company to do something about it.

    Unless they are adding Arsenic to the water at the bottling plant, has there ever been a case of Arsenic Poisoning from a natural spring source anywhere in Britain or Ireland?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Unless they are adding Arsenic to the water at the bottling plant, has there ever been a case of Arsenic Poisoning from a natural spring source anywhere in Britain or Ireland?

    do you mean in a way that a dis-gruntled worker could have added it on purpose? :eek:

    be good if they could put up some kind of figure of mmg or whatever per 5ltr it has to be before water has to be recalled and then say how much has been found in the tested bottled water


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    tuxy wrote: »

    'higher than normal levels found' but it doesn't say in the article what is 'normal levels' and neither does it say 'how much higher' was found.. it seems very classified information but i think we the public should be informed what is acceptable level of arsenic in water and what was found in these tested ones - maybe it would cause unnecessary panic and maybe more outrage though if they did. Maybe thats why we only get a fraction of the story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    be good if they could put up some kind of figure of mmg or whatever per 5ltr it has to be before water has to be recalled and then say how much has been found in the tested bottled water

    The current EU limit on arsenic in drinking water is 10 micrograms per litre.
    So probably slightly above that would be my guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    tuxy wrote: »
    The current EU limit on arsenic in drinking water is 10 micrograms per litre.
    So probably slightly above that would be my guess.

    ah right , thank you - I couldnt find that figure ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,308 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    ah right , thank you - I couldnt find that figure ..

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