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Why is getting a rare steak such an impossibility in Ireland?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭stateofflux


    I cry a little inside when i hear people ordering a fillet steak well done.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Brian? wrote: »
    Most places I order it blue, that way it comes rare.

    Marco Pierre White, FX Buckley(various locations), Shanahans on the Green among others will deliver a perfectly cooked steak.
    Brian? wrote: »
    I eat raw beef quite often, carpaccio and tartare.

    You're fooling nobody. You love it well done and covered in ketchup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    I cry a little inside when i hear people ordering a fillet steak well done.

    The Irish middle aged man way:

    Give us the large fillet love, VERY well done.
    No salad please, just chips, LOADS of pepper sauce, be quick about it love will you?

    Said while frothing and sweating,


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    I cry a little inside when i hear people ordering a fillet steak well done.

    I'd say the Chef cries a solitary tear of sadness infused with disappointment.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The Irish middle aged man way:

    Give us the large fillet love, VERY well done.
    No salad please, just chips, LOADS of pepper sauce, be quick about it love will you?

    Said while frothing and sweating,

    That's one of the grimmest posts I've ever read!


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Omackeral wrote: »
    You're fooling nobody. You love it well done and covered in ketchup.

    You got me. Preferably chef ketchup.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    The best steaks I've had were in the killinure chalets, glasson, Athlone,

    And also at the Maol Reidh hotel in Tully cross, Renvyle, Connemara.

    Always come out how you ask for.
    I have been told by more than one chef, that a lot of the time, orders for well done steaks always get the worst cuts of meat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    Love the way people are almost offended by other people not liking steak cooked the way they do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Omackeral wrote: »
    That's one of the grimmest posts I've ever read!

    Unfortunately it's true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,051 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    The Irish middle aged man way:

    Give us the large fillet love, VERY well done.
    No salad please, just chips, LOADS of pepper sauce, be quick about it love will you?

    Said while frothing and sweating,

    I worked in a golf course clubhouse restaurant and I can say that's pretty spot on. LIke anything else. Certain products carry gravitas by virtue of being expensive. If you don't know anything about food but want to look classy, just order the steak -well done, no salad and make sure there's no "blood".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    GarIT wrote: »
    You literally went to the equivalent of McDonalds and complained that the meat wasn't rare. Spoons don't cook anything, only microwave from frozen and will pretend it was cooked if you ask

    Thats incorrect. Steaks are cooked to order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,341 ✭✭✭Esse85


    In fairness the original poster didn't question the quality of the steak they got in Weatherspoons.

    Regardless of whether it was a cheap and cheerful place as above or a fine dining restaurant, the establishment should be able to serve steaks according to the customers requests, e.g. rare to well done.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Esse85 wrote: »
    In fairness the original poster didn't question the quality of the steak they got in Weatherspoons.

    Regardless of whether it was a cheap and cheerful place as above or a fine dining restaurant, the establishment should be able to serve steaks according to the customers requests, e.g. rare to well done.

    some cuts of meat you couldn't serve rare e.g. a cut with a certain amount of fat in it.

    rare fat would be rank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,531 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    MR Lemon should understand that if he wants quality food and service he should go to a restaurant, not a budget pub chain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    when we eat out somewhere nice i tend to order things i cant cook well at home. so i dont end up ordering steak as its very easy to cook at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭Degag


    Esse85 wrote: »
    In fairness the original poster didn't question the quality of the steak they got in Weatherspoons.

    Regardless of whether it was a cheap and cheerful place as above or a fine dining restaurant, the establishment should be able to serve steaks according to the customers requests, e.g. rare to well done.

    Indeed.

    However to bemoan how a whole country cooks their beef based on how one British pub chain cooks theirs probably isn't fair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭Degag


    Mr.S wrote: »
    Do they actually cook it Bleu / Blue though? I've yet to find a place that will 'officially' do it, and rare is the best you'll get. And when they do entertain your request, it's basically rare anyway. Assumed it was down to health regulations?

    Burger joints aren't allowed give you a rare burger, for example.

    Sushi sold in Ireland isn't fresh fresh, it's flash frozen at source and defrosted - reducing the risk of bacteria.

    I've had beef carpaccio in a few places and that essentially is blue.

    Burgers are minced hence why they are different from a food safety perspective. In saying that you can get your burger pink in some of the "top end" burger joints.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭petros1980


    Brian? wrote: »
    Not the kind of question I ask.

    So your initial post makes no sense then. Think before you post...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭petros1980


    I bet you've never eaten one.

    Why? You can't accept other people have different tastes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭Degag


    petros1980 wrote: »
    Why? You can't accept other people have different tastes?

    To be fair (and this isn't aimed towards you) anybody who i've met who eats their steak well done won't entertain the idea of a rare steak because of the "blood" not the taste or flavour. They simply haven't tried it or won't try it because they are afraid of it!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭petros1980


    The Irish middle aged man way:

    Give us the large fillet love, VERY well done.
    No salad please, just chips, LOADS of pepper sauce, be quick about it love will you?

    Said while frothing and sweating,

    :confused::confused:

    This thread has attracted some tools...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭petros1980


    Degag wrote: »
    To be fair (and this isn't aimed towards you) anybody who i've met who eats their steak well done won't entertain the idea of a rare steak because of the "blood" not the taste or flavour. They simply haven't tried it or won't try it because they are afraid of it!

    Ok, maybe fair enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    The Irish middle aged man way:

    Give us the large fillet love, VERY well done.
    No salad please, just chips, LOADS of pepper sauce, be quick about it love will you?

    Said while frothing and sweating,

    This is nonsense anyway. It’s basically men who like steak and it’s middle aged men who have the money to buy it in expensive restaurants.

    Fans of good steak like em rare or medium rare in general.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    Expecting a good steak in Wetherspoons is like expecting efficiency from the HSE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭IamMetaldave


    I have been told by more than one chef, that a lot of the time, orders for well done steaks always get the worst cuts of meat.

    I’ve heard the same a bunch of times! Makes complete sense, if you’re going have the steak taste like it was cremated, why use good cuts!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    How come beef tartare never took off over here. We don't eat enough variety of fish either.

    I blame the Brits and their ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I usually ask for medium although what I'm hoping that translates as is:
    "Not rare, not well-done, but whatever version of medium is best for that cut of steak."

    Probably the menu or server should list, for this cut of steak, chef recommends ordering rare-medium OR medium to well done.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    petros1980 wrote: »
    So your initial post makes no sense then. Think before you post...

    I thought. Then posted.

    What’s your point exactly?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Mr.S wrote: »
    Do they actually cook it Bleu / Blue though? I've yet to find a place that will 'officially' do it, and rare is the best you'll get. And when they do entertain your request, it's basically rare anyway. Assumed it was down to health regulations?

    Burger joints aren't allowed give you a rare burger, for example.

    Sushi sold in Ireland isn't fresh fresh, it's flash frozen at source and defrosted - reducing the risk of bacteria.

    I posted the regulations earlier. As long as the outside of steak is cooked it’s all good.

    All sushi is flash frozen.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Health hazard in my opinion


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