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Brexit discussion thread IX (Please read OP before posting)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    Here I was, under the impression Arlene thought homosexuality was a sin, and now she wants to turn the license plates into a rainbow flag. Red, white and blue on a yella background. Paisley must be kicking in his silken coffin just about now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,191 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Very good article by David McWilliams in yesterdays Irish Times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    The port itself is a control. You can't just disappear a container load of Argentinian beef between the port and the BIP.


    Sorry but it happens with a lot worse than beef https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/01/drug-suspects-trapped-in-container-call-antwerp-police-for-help


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,990 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    mod: below standard posts deleted


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,089 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Arlene reveals her plans on how they’re going to be spending their billion bribe.
    I’m dyin to know what ‘uk cultural revival’ entails.

    https://twitter.com/darranmarshall/status/1157756722695614466?s=21
    They've already started cultural revival in NI but only for usums not themums.



    Red, White & Blue number plates.
    🔹Free-to-Air coverage of cricket
    - Tories control the BBC purse strings (and appointments to the board) talk to them about paying for it
    Remember the Free TV licences for OAP's ?

    🔹Making Remembrance Day a bank holiday.
    - who doesn't want another bank holiday , but why not a public holiday ?

    🔹Massive infrastructure spending.
    - Remind us of how much has been spent west of the Bann ?
    - on how much of funding for the new roads through her constituency have been provided from the EU / Irish government ?

    🔹UK Cultural renewal.
    - had to LOL at Bunting (so much nicer than Flegs)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,683 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    otnomart wrote: »

    I doubt there is an airport or port in the world where some stuff doesn't get through. When drugs become impossible to get then you have hit peak customs control. And that isn't gonna happen anytime soon.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    They've already started cultural revival in NI but only for usums not themums.



    Red, White & Blue number plates.
    🔹Free-to-Air coverage of cricket
    - Tories control the BBC purse strings (and appointments to the board) talk to them about paying for it
    Remember the Free TV licences for OAP's ?

    🔹Making Remembrance Day a bank holiday.
    - who doesn't want another bank holiday , but why not a public holiday ?

    🔹Massive infrastructure spending.
    - Remind us of how much has been spent west of the Bann ?
    - on how much of funding for the new roads through her constituency have been provided from the EU / Irish government ?

    🔹UK Cultural renewal.
    - had to LOL at Bunting (so much nicer than Flegs)


    They’re in cloud cuckoo. I’m not even sure who they’re pitching this to?
    It’s supposed to be, by their own statement, a fund for all NI.

    And that’s what they come up with?

    I can’t help but think they DUP are willingly and knowingly trying to destroy themselves. Between this and the objection to special status for NI which would have and easily could be a massive boon to the entire province


    Unless...they’ve already agreed to the border in the sea and this is to appeal to and soften up their base before they announce it?

    Maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,491 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    otnomart wrote: »
    I understand that things will get tough for the UK, but I just don't see the same rewards for beef as cocaine. I know refrigerated containers are referred to as 'reefers' in the trade, but that's about as close as it gets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,065 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    So would farmers have to drive to a checking point prior to driving over the border or would we have officials visiting all premises?

    And what about muti-farm loads? Would the containers be sealed to avoid extra stuff being put in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,839 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    We'll make all the lorry drivers collecting from farms around the border, custom officials, problem solved.

    Steve Barclay claiming Barnier needs a new mandate. They are trying to say a new parliament resets everything to zero.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Very good article by David McWilliams in yesterdays Irish Times.

    He argues that Ireland and the EU should let the UK crash and burn and that Ireland will be more than okay in the coming years. It's probably a fair point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭brickster69


    otnomart wrote: »

    Probably because Rotterdam only physically check 3% of goods coming in from outside of the EU. So if they check 3% of goods there it must be ok for 3% everywhere on the EU border.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    Well the UK are in the EU right now only because their government signed the Agreement to Extend Brexit.

    If they really are demanding renegotiation it means they are either totally ignorant of current situation, or they do know and simply don't care about what was signed.

    In either case the do themselves a disservice as they aptly demonstrate they are not worthy of trust.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,065 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    otnomart wrote: »

    Probably because Rotterdam only physically check 3% of goods coming in from outside of the EU. So if they check 3% of goods there it must be ok for 3% everywhere on the EU border.

    The point is not the 3%. The point is that it is entirely under EU control over what they check. They can increase that 3% whenever they wish.

    NI is different as no border would exist so EU relies on a third country to cooperate. A third country that has stated it won't follow the rules, wants to control everything, and won't abide by any EU rulings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    Probably because Rotterdam only physically check 3% of goods coming in from outside of the EU. So if they check 3% of goods there it must be ok for 3% everywhere on the EU border.


    Everywhere that has the systems to check electronically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Agree fully and I think more Irish people are think along these lines not less like the British press is reporting

    I was of the idea that I didn't want Britain to suffer. That 48% of the people didn't vote for this in 2016,and that probably more would now. But it's little things, like the fact that over 50% of the votes in the by election during the week went to Brexit party and conservatives. I find that staggering. After all that has come out, all the lies and bull****, so so many leavers have hardened their views if anything. Ultimately the UK needs a hard nó deal brexit as a wake up call. But as usual if that happens, the Telegraph, Daily Mail, Sun, the Express and bloody leaflets in Weatherspoons will say its all the fault of the fault of the bullies in the EU.
    Wetherspoon's should be boycotted in Ireland they are just **** holes anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,839 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Agree Declan, couldn't see the attraction of going to one, any way, esp in Ireland.
    Center Parcs rejigged their Irish site to specifically carter for Irish tastes, fair play to them. Martin talks about replacing EU beers, ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Kaybaykwah wrote: »
    Here I was, under the impression Arlene thought homosexuality was a sin, and now she wants to turn the license plates into a rainbow flag. Red, white and blue on a yella background. Paisley must be kicking in his silken coffin just about now.
    I think Arlene is a man


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,859 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I think Arlene is a man

    Serious discussion only please. This is not acceptable here.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Water John wrote: »
    We'll make all the lorry drivers collecting from farms around the border, custom officials, problem solved.

    Steve Barclay claiming Barnier needs a new mandate. They are trying to say a new parliament resets everything to zero.
    I'm beginning to wonder about those "top" universities in england ( always use small e )


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,491 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Water John wrote: »
    Agree Declan, couldn't see the attraction of going to one, any way, esp in Ireland.
    Center Parcs rejigged their Irish site to specifically carter for Irish tastes, fair play to them. Martin talks about replacing EU beers, ffs.
    Tim Martin is that most unique of brexiters. Pushing hard for the thing that is most likely to decimate his business. He already has trouble getting staff, has alienated half the population and as stated above is threatening to reduce the choice in his outlets and turn away even more customers. A true hero of brexit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭fash


    Yes, but the Rotterdam BIP are 40 miles away from the physical border.
    When ever this nonsense point is raised, I am left wondering whether the person making it is a troll, a gullible fool or something in between.

    Let's pretend for a moment that what you said is an actual plan: so you plan to expropriate all land from the border inland from the border by 40 miles (of note the Rotterdam BIP is 40km -not miles- from the furthest terminal) - and drive out the (mostly Catholic) inhabitants, wall or fence that in and then convert that space into the largest border infrastructure the world has ever known?

    What do you do with the inhabitants you drive out? Is your plan to liquidate them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Water John wrote: »
    Agree Declan, couldn't see the attraction of going to one, any way, esp in Ireland.
    Center Parcs rejigged their Irish site to specifically carter for Irish tastes, fair play to them. Martin talks about replacing EU beers, ffs.
    Tim Martin is that most unique of brexiters. Pushing hard for the thing that is most likely to decimate his business. He already has trouble getting staff, has alienated half the population and as stated above is threatening to reduce the choice in his outlets and turn away even more customers. A true hero of brexit.
    A hard Brexit would drive down his labour costs in england it would put him out of business in ireland I say bring on a hard brexit the more I think about it the the more I like it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭Lackadaisical


    Water John wrote: »
    Agree Declan, couldn't see the attraction of going to one, any way, esp in Ireland.
    Center Parcs rejigged their Irish site to specifically carter for Irish tastes, fair play to them. Martin talks about replacing EU beers, ffs.

    I'd just point out that Centre Parcs is actually a Dutch company. They operate similar facilities all over Europe and they're all highly localised.

    I'm not really sure what it has to do with Brexit tho other than I assume UK holiday makers will have to look more towards Staycation destinations due to falling GBP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭fash


    Water John wrote: »
    Steve Barclay claiming Barnier needs a new mandate. They are trying to say a new parliament resets everything to zero.

    I would respond that unfortunately although the UK has changed leader it hasn't changed parliament - and as the UK agreed to extend the A50 date from April to October in the basis of no change to the WA, unfortunately the UK has no mandate to demand a change in mandate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭brickster69


    fash wrote: »
    When ever this nonsense point is raised, I am left wondering whether the person making it is a troll, a gullible fool or something in between.

    Let's pretend for a moment that what you said is an actual plan: so you plan to expropriate all land from the border inland from the border by 40 miles (of note the Rotterdam BIP is 40km -not miles- from the furthest terminal) - and drive out the (mostly Catholic) inhabitants, wall or fence that in and then convert that space into the largest border infrastructure the world has ever known?

    What do you do with the inhabitants you drive out? Is your plan to liquidate them?

    So what you are saying is that checks cannot be carried out away from the border. That Coveney, Varadkar, UK, WTO and EU are all wrong when they say checks will not be done at the border.

    Checks will have to be carried out somewhere either at the border or away from the border. Best hurry up and decide which !

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,673 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    fash wrote: »
    I would respond that unfortunately although the UK has changed leader it hasn't changed parliament - and as the UK agreed to extend the A50 date from April to October in the basis of no change to the WA, unfortunately the UK has no mandate to demand a change in mandate.

    I wonder if a week of no-deal brexit (no insulin, no airplanes, ...) would get it out of the UK's system. A Practice 'no deal', maybe at the beginning of September.

    Too bad it can't happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Was in Tesco's today and it crossed my mind should we be building up a stock of non perishable goods that come from the uk or Europe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Was in Tesco's today and it crossed my mind should we be building up a stock of non perishable goods that come from the uk or Europe

    Why not try lidl or Aldi instead I presume they have this problem a bit more licked

    On a more serious note I presume this is one of the things the Govt and the logistics people in the chains have been thinking about, based on the UK's case it looks like a problem of how many thousand square feet of chilled store space is in the Republic and I am not sure there's a good answer to that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,491 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Was in Tesco's today and it crossed my mind should we be building up a stock of non perishable goods that come from the uk or Europe
    Wouldn't think so. The difference in shipping time from mainland Europe and the landbridge can be measured in hours.


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