South of England

fryup · 04-08-2019 10:11AM

essex girls

(the clue is in the name of the county)

Panthro · 04-08-2019 10:11AM

padd b1975 wrote: »

Strange place Cornwall.

How so?!

KaneToad · 04-08-2019 10:16AM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

The only part of the UK with a climate as disappointing as ours is Scotland, south of England is completely different

I love the Irish climate! Nothing disappointing about it, for me.

RasTa · 04-08-2019 10:20AM

Well Manchester is similar to Galway rain wise. This was taken on the 1st

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fryup · 04-08-2019 10:24AM

padd b1975 wrote: »

Strange place Cornwall.

strange accent, and they see themselves as celts other than saxons...and they have their own language too

arccosh · 04-08-2019 10:43AM

Lived near Portsmouth for a few years...bit of a strange micro climate because the Isle of Wight blocked the majority of any bad rain or wind coming from the channel.

Much better weather than Ireland, one year I was in shorts and t-shirt until late October... last summer I was there it maxed out at 32 degrees... was like Spain for a good month. Weather is definitely a positive. Solent water temperature drops to about 10 degrees in the winter and spring, but was close to 20 one year during the summer, nothing better than an after work sea swim :-)

Pay is genereally better and there are some great jobs in the tech, building and recreational sectors

Lots of negatives though (for me anyway), SE UK is very affluent, and what goes with it, is snobbery... was always looked at as the paddy who wanted to tarmac your driveway (I'm a telecoms engineer btw :-D)... Brexit has sturred up a lot of indirect racism, I know people probably don't mean it, but if the shoe was on the other foot, there would be outrage. Don't get me wrong, I've met some lovely people down here, but the majority are up their own hole c*nts looking out for themselves (I'm the only one on my secton who isn't in a boat club, or has a private plane share). It's very colonial at times also, the empire is still very much seen as alive down this way.

It's been very hard to break into any social circles (maybe because I didn't come from an affluent background, so it's all new to me), but as mentioned above in another post, give me northerners any day for some craic...

For somewhere so close, it is soo different.

Don't expect a pub open past 11, after that you might find a slug and lettuce open until 1, other than that it's a nightclub or casino (might be your thing, it's not mine anymore, would much prefer a pub Ireland style, few drinks and a band until 1 or 2 am).

Think the M50 is bad, you haven't seen the M27 or M3, absolute disasters (southern part of the M25 and Guildford also worth a mention).

It's expensive to fly back to Ireland from regional airport, Exeter, Southampton (Bournemouth? I know flights to Dublin have stopped, but do they still fly to others?) can be quite pricey.... obviously Gatwick and Heathrow are much cheaper options, timed right.

Outside any sort of main town, you will need a car, trains etc... can't be relied on atm.

What's keeping me here you're probably asking... job is definitely the main one, I'm getting experience I'd have to wait about 10 years to get in Ireland, getting some ammount of money put into me to train, pension is ridiculous compared to what I used to have, and better pay also. Also a general better quality of life than back home (bar the social side). I get looked after over here.

Would love to move back to family and friends, but they've also been moving on with their lives, not saying I would go back and I wouldn't have friends, but it would be much different than before I left, and I don't know what would be worse, the lonely feeling I get here from time to time, or getting the same feeling when I'm back home.

It's a conflicting situation to be in, but if I went back home, I'd be taking 10 steps back.... also I don't think I could afford to rent tbh ... Still a lot of learning and growing to be done over here I think.

arccosh · 04-08-2019 10:55AM

Also, I see Cornwall mentioned a lot.... stunning place when the weather is right, but think of west of Ireland for weather similarities...

I've been in Cornwall in January when eveything is closed bar surf bars and B&B's... unless it's your thing, it can be a bit grim. Cornish are very closed to outsiders moving into the community also.

Also a bit of random info, it's mostly built on granite, so you're advised in some areas to keep your windows open year long to stop radon building up ... we had a site down there with a radon meter which went off the healthy level charts if the ventilation system wasn't on... :-D

Harry Palmr · 04-08-2019 10:55AM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

July/August average temps

Belfast - 19C
Dublin - 20C
London - 23C

Let's not exaggerate too much, it's warmer, but not significantly so.

Someone else who doesn't understand what an average indicates apparently . The peaks are notably higher than either Dublin or Belfast. They've had two genuine health threatening hot spells so far this summer.

https://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/maps/city

wexandproud · 04-08-2019 10:58AM

arccosh wrote: »

Lived near Portsmouth for a few years...bit of a strange micro climate because the Isle of Wight blocked the majority of any bad rain or wind coming from the channel.

Much better weather than Ireland, one year I was in shorts and t-shirt until late October... last summer I was there it maxed out at 32 degrees... was like Spain for a good month. Weather is definitely a positive. Solent water temperature drops to about 10 degrees in the winter and spring, but was close to 20 one year during the summer, nothing better than an after work sea swim :-)

Pay is genereally better and there are some great jobs in the tech, building and recreational sectors

Lots of negatives though (for me anyway), SE UK is very affluent, and what goes with it, is snobbery... was always looked at as the paddy who wanted to tarmac your driveway (I'm a telecoms engineer btw :-D)... Brexit has sturred up a lot of indirect racism, I know people probably don't mean it, but if the shoe was on the other foot, there would be outrage. Don't get me wrong, I've met some lovely people down here, but the majority are up their own hole c*nts looking out for themselves (I'm the only one on my secton who isn't in a boat club, or has a private plane share). It's very colonial at times also, the empire is still very much seen as alive down this way.

It's been very hard to break into any social circles (maybe because I didn't come from an affluent background, so it's all new to me), but as mentioned above in another post, give me northerners any day for some craic...

For somewhere so close, it is soo different.

Don't expect a pub open past 11, after that you might find a slug and lettuce open until 1, other than that it's a nightclub or casino (might be your thing, it's not mine anymore, would much prefer a pub Ireland style, few drinks and a band until 1 or 2 am).

Think the M50 is bad, you haven't seen the M27 or M3, absolute disasters (southern part of the M25 and Guildford also worth a mention).

It's expensive to fly back to Ireland from regional airport, Exeter, Southampton (Bournemouth? I know flights to Dublin have stopped, but do they still fly to others?) can be quite pricey.... obviously Gatwick and Heathrow are much cheaper options, timed right.

Outside any sort of main town, you will need a car, trains etc... can't be relied on atm.

What's keeping me here you're probably asking... job is definitely the main one, I'm getting experience I'd have to wait about 10 years to get in Ireland, getting some ammount of money put into me to train, pension is ridiculous compared to what I used to have, and better pay also. Also a general better quality of life than back home (bar the social side). I get looked after over here.

Would love to move back to family and friends, but they've also been moving on with their lives, not saying I would go back and I wouldn't have friends, but it would be much different than before I left, and I don't know what would be worse, the lonely feeling I get here from time to time, or getting the same feeling when I'm back home.

It's a conflicting situation to be in, but if I went back home, I'd be taking 10 steps back.... also I don't think I could afford to rent tbh ... Still a lot of learning and growing to be done over here I think.

visit bournmouth 3 or 4 times a year for the last few years and used to fly with flybe to southampton but ryan air are flying direct to bournmouth again , 4 times a week i think , I used them a few weeks back , handy flight times too . Climate is better there than here , more sun , bit warmer , far less frost and rain .

Osborne · 04-08-2019 11:01AM

RasTa wrote: »

Well Manchester is similar to Galway rain wise. This was taken on the 1st

That's a great photo.

Harry Palmr · 04-08-2019 11:03AM

fryup wrote: »

strange accent, and they see themselves as celts other than saxons...and they have their own language too

They are Celts!

arccosh · 04-08-2019 11:07AM

wexandproud wrote: »

visit bournmouth 3 or 4 times a year for the last few years and used to fly with flybe to southampton but ryan air are flying direct to bournmouth again , 4 times a week i think , I used them a few weeks back , handy flight times too . Climate is better there than here , more sun , bit warmer , far less frost and rain .

cheers for the heads up !! looking a flights for £40 return.... definitely beats the usual 85-140 from Southampton

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 04-08-2019 11:08AM

It does have better weather. Fo sho. I lived there one summer in the notorious stretch of bad summers in the UK and Ireland from 2007 to 2012. It was a below average summer and there was still a base level of warmth there that you just don’t get in Ireland. I got used to it being at least 22 degrees every day. It’s just balmier, even on cloudy days. I got athlete’s foot there for the first time in my life.

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

London is slightly different though innit bruv.

The buildings absorb heat and then radiate it. find summer nights in London can be stifling. Lived there for years as well, as a student, and often couldn't get a good night's sleep in summers.

London is a little heat island but all of the south of England fares way better than us. I was a good distance south west of London.

my3cents · 04-08-2019 11:14AM

Seanachai wrote: »

I'm seriously considering relocation, it's seems like a petty reason but I'm sick of the grey skies here, it's messing with my moods.

Air quality is crap and the sky is always full of planes and helicopters, no matter where you are there is always noise and at night light pollution. Lived 10 years in Surrey.

purplepanda · 04-08-2019 11:54AM

There's a definite difference between the weather here in SE England & the west of Ireland where there is far too much rain for my liking! :rolleyes:

My aunt in law, originally from Banbury, Oxfordshire has lived in Wexford, about 10K from Waterford City for 15 years. She insists that the local weather is no different than Oxfordshire /Berkshire.

Recently at least Banbury is at around 3 degrees warmer than Waterford, as SE England is affected more by the recent European heatwave.

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branie2 · 04-08-2019 12:45PM

It's a lovely area

my3cents · 04-08-2019 12:57PM

Forgot to mention that while the summers in the south of England are hotter many areas have much much coulder winters. It was a bit extreme but had minus 14 degrees centigrade one winter in Surry nr Guildford in a week that never went above minus 5 degrees centigrade.

Big difference between there and were my mother lives in South East Cornwall where the weather is warmer in the summer and about the same as it is here in the winter

el_gaucho · 04-08-2019 12:59PM

I lived in Kent for a few years and the climate was probably my favourite thing about the area. Warmer in summer but not too hot; colder in winter but drier so nicer (for me anyway). When people use the term sunny southeast in Ireland it makes no sense to me - for England it’s really true.

questionmark? · 04-08-2019 01:01PM

Spent many years living in the southwest and biggest difference was you knew you would get a summer. Its taken me a while to get used to the grey wet summers we get in Ireland.

SharpshooterTom · 04-08-2019 01:28PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Someone else who doesn't understand what an average indicates apparently . The peaks are notably higher than either Dublin or Belfast. They've had two genuine health threatening hot spells so far this summer.

https://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/maps/city

Well obviously if the average is higher so too are the peaks, no one is suggesting the weather isn't better, but it is somewhat marginal, compared to say most of France or Spain or Italy where the differences are significant.

I was born and raised in East Anglia for the first 14 years of my life and now live in NI so I think I have an understanding.

Highest temperatures here can creep above 30C, in the south of England it can go up to mid-late 30s on extreme days.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 04-08-2019 01:43PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

July/August average temps

Belfast - 19C
Dublin - 20C
London - 23C

Let's not exaggerate too much, it's warmer, but not significantly so.

That 3c average makes a big difference. If every day here was 20c in summer and every day there was 23c, that feels a good deal balmier. It means the evenings are warmer. Summer evenings in Ireland can get quite chilly, much less so in the south of England. That 3c gap is the difference.

I lived there during a bad summer for both the UK and Ireland. I’d compare weather forecasts constantly that summer and southern England still fared way better, even during that crappy summer.

SharpshooterTom · 04-08-2019 01:46PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

That 3c average makes a big difference. If every day here was 20c in summer and every day there was 23c, that feels a good deal balmier. It means the evenings are warming. Summer evenings in Ireland can get quite chilly, much less so in the south of England. That 3c gap is the difference.

I lived there during a bad summer for both the UK and Ireland. I’d compare weather forecasts constantly the summer and southern England still fared way better, even during that crappy summer.

Its better, but if I wanted to move somewhere specifically for weather I would be prefering America or Australia where average summer temps are around 30C.

23C is still not great relative to a lot of Europe or North America. Even New Zealand, certainly north island, would get warmer summers than SE England.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 04-08-2019 01:51PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Eh? It averages 23C, only 3C higher than Dublin does.

With the exception of a brief heatwave, the vast majority of the summer in London has been sh1te.

London Forecast:
4th August - 26C
5th August - 23C
6th August - 22C
7th August - 22C
8th August - 23C
9th August - 24C
10th August - 23C
11th August - 22C
12th August - 21C

The way some of you talk about it as if its Barbados.

Nobody is saying it’s Spain. You’ve ably backed up what people are saying. Those temperature are normal for London and they frequently get high 20s and even into the 30s. The 4th-12th August string of London temperatures above - we’d be lucky to get a run of temperatures like that and that is normal for London and even a bit on the low side.

SharpshooterTom · 04-08-2019 01:57PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

The 4th-12th August string of London temperatures above - we’d be lucky to get a run of temperatures like that and that is normal for London and even a bit on the low side.

Relative to Ireland its better, relative to a lot of other first world nations its worse.

Ireland is bad, only Scotland, Iceland or Northern Scandinavia are worse than us.

I'm just saying if I'm going for my summer holidays where I'm specifically looking for weather, SE England wouldn't be a place on my mind, I personally don't find the differences too significant. I certainly wouldn't consider moving to SE England if my only goal was better weather.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 04-08-2019 01:59PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Its better, but if I wanted to move somewhere specifically for weather I would be prefering America or Australia where average summer temps are around 30C.

23C is still not great relative to a lot of Europe or North America. Even New Zealand, certainly north island, would get warmer summers than SE England.

As somebody who lived in SW England, I can say that 23c every day (and it was often higher) is very pleasant. It was always balmy. And I lived there in what was considered a bad summer. It is noticeably warmer than Ireland. 30c or so every day would not be more enjoyable to me than that. And there were plenty of days that were high 20s. That, in addition to the every day base level of extra warmth, was plenty.

If you’re flying over the UK on a clear day in summer, when you fly over SE England, you can see the colour of the grass turn yellowish green. We had that in Ireland last summer but this is every summer in England.

SharpshooterTom · 04-08-2019 02:04PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

As somebody who lived in SW England, I can say that 23c every day (and it was often higher) is very pleasant. It was always balmy. And I lived there in what was considered a bad summer. It is noticeably warmer than Ireland. 30c or so every day would not be more enjoyable to me than that. And there were plenty of days that were high 20s. That, in addition to the every day base level of extra warmth, was plenty.

If you’re flying over the UK on a clear day in summer, when you fly over SE England, you can see the colour of the grass turn yellowish green. We had that in Ireland last summer but this is every summer in England.

That's a matter of preference, I would love for Ireland to have summers like Florida or Barbados. With regards to Southern England I personally don't find the differences too significant, or at least signficant enough that I have to move there.

0lddog · 04-08-2019 02:06PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

........ Even New Zealand, certainly north island, would get warmer summers than SE England.

Would hope so. Auckland is around the same distance from the equator as Gibraltar.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 04-08-2019 02:32PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Well obviously if the average is higher so too are the peaks, no one is suggesting the weather isn't better, but it is somewhat marginal, compared to say most of France or Spain or Italy where the differences are significant.

I was born and raised in East Anglia for the first 14 years of my life and now live in NI so I think I have an understanding.

Highest temperatures here can creep above 30C, in the south of England it can go up to mid-late 30s on extreme days.

The highest temperature on record in NI is 30.8c. Hitting 30c there wouldn’t be common.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 04-08-2019 02:37PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Relative to Ireland its better, relative to a lot of other first world nations its worse.

Ireland is bad, only Scotland, Iceland or Northern Scandinavia are worse than us.

I'm just saying if I'm going for my summer holidays where I'm specifically looking for weather, SE England wouldn't be a place on my mind, I personally don't find the differences too significant. I certainly wouldn't consider moving to SE England if my only goal was better weather.

Right. People aren’t talking about holidays though. As a liveable climate, it’s much better than Ireland and for many, nicer than way hotter countries. Personally I would choose SE England over Oz, Italy, France etc. if better weather was my goal. Drier and balmier but not scorching.

SharpshooterTom · 04-08-2019 02:53PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Right. People aren’t talking about holidays though. As a liveable climate, it’s much better than Ireland and for many, nicer than way hotter countries. Personally I would choose SE England over Oz, Italy, France etc. if better weather was my goal. Drier and balmier but not scorching.

I wouldn't see it as significantly different enough for me to want to pack up and move, and I would prefer summer climates of France, Oz, USA etc. Each to their own though.

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