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Irishman set to be deported from the US

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  • #662
    99problems1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 391 ✭✭99problems1


    How was he able to apply for legal status while over there?

    How is it possible you can enter a country illegally and then apply later on? Just makes no sense.

    Is it true he was refused because of his minor drug convictions here or is it just that he was illegal and that's why it was refused?


  • #663
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    99problems1 wrote: »
    How was he able to apply for legal status while over there?

    How is it possible you can enter a country illegally and then apply later on? Just makes no sense.

    Is it true he was refused because of his minor drug convictions here or is it just that he was illegal and that's why it was refused?

    The drug convictions appear to be the main reason for refusal, the overstaying of his visa was probably second to that. I'm still laughing at his father calling for the convictions to be withdrawn as if the case never existed. the sooner he is deported the better, there are more news worthy stories out there not getting coverage because of him.


  • #664
    leahyl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,446 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    This guy was on red fm a few minutes ago - he said he’s not illegal...and then in the next breath says he’s in the process of getting all that sorted....so, you ARE illegal....


  • #665
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    On a personal level, I feel sorry for him and his family on the other hand despite the fact that I beliven in decriminalising drugs it good that it is reflected that his choices in life when he was young had serious consequences for him in later life.

    If reading about or seeing his case make someone hesitate about doing something that may get them a criminal conviction then its a good thing.

    All choices in life have consequences.


  • #666
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,400 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    mariaalice wrote:
    If reading about or seeing his case make someone hesitate about doing something that may get them a criminal conviction then its a good.


    The young mind has a tendency not to care about the older mind, so I can't see it preventing wrong doing


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  • #667
    Geuze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,462 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    99problems1 wrote: »
    How was he able to apply for legal status while over there?

    How is it possible you can enter a country illegally and then apply later on? Just makes no sense.

    That happens all the time in Ireland.

    Failed AS are given "leave to remain".


  • #668
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    The young mind has a tendency not to care about the older mind, so I can't see it preventing wrong doing

    It dose because they fall in to two categories (1) one could not care less and will do it anyway (2) hesitant and could go either way its the second category that hearing about something like this case has an effect on.


  • #669
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,400 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    mariaalice wrote:
    It dose because they fall in to two categories (1) one could not care less and will do it anyway (2) hesitant and could go either way its the second category that hearing about something like this case has an effect on.


    Some young minds simply do not think of consequence, treats of possible legal action simply won't work, I know somebody who ended up in a similar situation in America years ago, this outcome was not thought about at the time, thankfully its sorted now, threats of legal action, don't always work


  • #670
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Cork Trucker wrote: »
    The drug convictions appear to be the main reason for refusal, the overstaying of his visa was probably second to that. I'm still laughing at his father calling for the convictions to be withdrawn as if the case never existed. the sooner he is deported the better, there are more news worthy stories out there not getting coverage because of him.

    The fact he lied about his drugs conviction to get on the visa waiver programme will be the biggest issue. That is a federal offense with a max penalty of 10 years imprisonment.


  • #671
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    The fact he lied about his drugs conviction to get on the visa waiver programme will be the biggest issue. That is a federal offense with a max penalty of 10 years imprisonment.

    I didn’t know he did that. That makes it ten times worse


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  • #672
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    We know nothing about this guy really only he is after being targeted by ICE for some reason and he was convicted of drug offences here in Ireland, anyone know how much drugs he was caught with (twice) or if he had any previous charges dealt with more leniently by the courts which wouldn't be unusual.

    When his wife went to the press with the story that he has been locked up in prison, has no access to drinking water and can't see (because he has no contact lenses) I kind of thought how could any professional journalist print this rubbish?

    It is getting more embarrassing by the day, the press interest in this story is unprecedented and the way the press are making him out to be a victim is scandalous.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #673
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    We know nothing about this guy really only he is after being targeted by ICE for some reason and he was convicted of drug offences here in Ireland, anyone know how much drugs he was caught with (twice) or if he had any previous charges dealt with more leniently by the courts which wouldn't be unusual.

    When his wife went to the press with the story that he has been locked up in prison, has no access to drinking water and can't see (because he has no contact lenses) I kind of thought how could any professional journalist print this rubbish?

    It is getting more embarrassing by the day, the press interest in this story is unprecedented and the way the press are making him out to be a victim is scandalous.

    It was mentioned on the Neil Prendeville Show on RedFM in Cork when this first came to public attention that someone may have grassed him up.

    His record here is 2 convictions for personal possession, he was fined in both instances and paid the fines, they date back to roughly 2005 based on what he said to RTE so the convictions were 2 years old when he went to the states/met the future wife etc. 2 years here is still considered fresh and for such a conviction you would be deemed high risk of another, let alone in the states, it's worth noting that for the first 3 offences of personal use it is a non custodial fine only.


  • #674
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Cork Trucker wrote: »
    It was mentioned on the Neil Prendeville Show on RedFM in Cork when this first came to public attention that someone may have grassed him up.

    His record here is 2 convictions for personal possession, he was fined in both instances and paid the fines, they date back to roughly 2005 based on what he said to RTE so the convictions were 2 years old when he went to the states/met the future wife etc. 2 years here is still considered fresh and for such a conviction you would be deemed high risk of another, let alone in the states, it's worth noting that for the first 3 offences of personal use it is a non custodial fine only.

    I find it hard to trust anything this guy or his wife say to the press.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #675
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    I find it hard to trust anything this guy or his wife say to the press.

    He probably met his wife on plenty of fish.com while here hence he travelled over and they’ve made up a fictitious story and the rest is history? Him soon to be included


  • #676
    vetinari
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭vetinari


    Wow, the level of nastiness on this thread is surprisingly high.
    Given the guy has a US wife and kids, it seems a net negative to deport him at this point.
    Some weight should be given to the massive impact it will have on his wife and kids whom are both US citizens.
    Without the drug possession convictions, he would have been able to adjust his status to a legal status after he married a US citizen.


  • #677
    greencap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    turf him out.

    discussion/2058195983/russia-threadbanned-users-in-op/p3135

    😁



  • #678
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    It is very strange that his previous in Ireland hasn’t come out. With all of the furore over this you’d think it would be public knowledge considering how “small time” it was?


  • #679
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    vetinari wrote: »
    Wow, the level of nastiness on this thread is surprisingly high.
    Given the guy has a US wife and kids, it seems a net negative to deport him at this point.
    Some weight should be given to the massive impact it will have on his wife and kids whom are both US citizens.
    Without the drug possession convictions, he would have been able to adjust his status to a legal status after he married a US citizen.

    That’s no one else’s fault but his own.,


  • #680
    MattressRick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    Why should he get special treatment over many more from third world countries who have families there and are deported without hesitation?


  • #681
    vetinari
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭vetinari


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    That’s no one else’s fault but his own.,


    I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that statement.
    You can have empathy with someone and still think that they are at fault.
    Some very simplistic thinking in this thread.


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  • #682
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    vetinari wrote: »
    I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that statement.
    You can have empathy with someone and still think that they are at fault.
    Some very simplistic thinking in this thread.

    He knew he had two drug convictions. He chose to lie about them to enter the US. It is that simple.


  • #683
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,112 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    MattressRick wrote: »
    Why should he get special treatment over many more from third world countries who have families there and are deported without hesitation?

    Because he's white, he can use media and lobby groups and well able to afford a decent legal team. That's why.


  • #684
    gwalk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭gwalk


    vetinari wrote: »
    Wow, the level of nastiness on this thread is surprisingly high.
    Given the guy has a US wife and kids, it seems a net negative to deport him at this point.
    Some weight should be given to the massive impact it will have on his wife and kids whom are both US citizens.
    Without the drug possession convictions, he would have been able to adjust his status to a legal status after he married a US citizen.

    give the bleeding hearts club a rest

    he should be turfed out for being a dose


  • #685
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    https://www.96fm.ie/news/keith-byrne-deportation-order-frozen/
    Cork man Keith Byrne has had his deportation order frozen and is to be released from prison following an order by a United States federal judge
    Mr Byrne's immigration lawyer Thomas Griffin says Keith's immigration battle is not over yet, but for now he is free to work and live in the United States

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/keith-byrne-reunited-with-family-after-release-from-us-prison-1.3967224
    Lawyers representing Mr Byrne had filed a petition for a writ of habeas corpus in the federal court in Harrisburg.
    According to a court order, issued by Chief Judge Christopher Conner, Mr Byrne will be temporarily released for a period of 30 days to allow him to seek judicial review of the decision to deny him legal status in the US.


  • #686
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    biko wrote: »
    https://www.96fm.ie/news/keith-byrne-deportation-order-frozen/


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/keith-byrne-reunited-with-family-after-release-from-us-prison-1.3967224

    This is old news.


  • #687
    notobtuse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    This is the first time I read about this…

    'In 2007, Keith was a 25-year-old from Fermoy, County Cork, Ireland who wanted to visit cousins living in America.

    He did so thanks to a visa waiver program that enables visitors to stay for 90 days if they agree to sign away rights to contest deportation should they overstay their welcome.'

    That’s some crappy business now since he takes no responsibility for this past action.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • #688
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    notobtuse wrote: »
    This is the first time I read about this…

    'In 2007, Keith was a 25-year-old from Fermoy, County Cork, Ireland who wanted to visit cousins living in America.

    He did so thanks to a visa waiver program that enables visitors to stay for 90 days if they agree to sign away rights to contest deportation should they overstay their welcome.'

    That’s some crappy business now since he takes no responsibility for this past action.

    That’s been brought up throughout the thread. As was the fact that he lied to obtain travel on the visa waiver scheme, you can’t travel on it if you have had any convictions.


  • #689
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    you can’t travel on it if you have had any convictions.

    The footballer Joey Barton was over there a few years ago on holidays while he team were training, he wasn’t allowed work but still got in


  • #690
    rd1izb7lvpuksx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 260 ✭✭rd1izb7lvpuksx


    Cork Trucker wrote: »
    The footballer Joey Barton was over there a few years ago on holidays while he team were training, he wasn’t allowed work but still got in


    Presumably he had to get a visa, and couldn't avail of the ESTA visa waiver.


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  • #691
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Stanley Happy Antelope wrote: »
    Presumably he had to get a visa, and couldn't avail of the ESTA visa waiver.

    Exactly, you can submit an application to the U.S embassy for a visa if your ESTA application is rejected or you think it's a waste of time as you know it will be rejected.


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