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Assuming the climate is screwed, where to live in the future?

  • 29-07-2019 04:42PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭


    So let's be pesemistic and assume we have passed the point of no return and the world is destined to be wrecked in the next 50 years.

    I plan on being comfortably retired in 50 years, so where is likely to be the best place to be living in 50 years.

    Will Africa become a tropical paradise, will Ireland become a desert, will the snowy Alps be a warm lake view?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    You're already living there if you're in Ireland.

    The only likely thing that can feck us up and it's not terminal is the Gulf Stream failing which if it happens will turn us into Newfoundland or the west coast of Norway, which isn't the worst fate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭RMAOK


    Live on top of Everest - when all the ice melts at the North and South Pole, Everest will become highly sought after beach side property....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    As said by another poster, Ireland will be as good as anywhere else if, as is starting to look rather likely, the World's climate goes all sorts of tits-up. The worsening wars over arable land and water as vast swathes of the rest of the World goes Mad Max will be good craic as well, mind. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Build your own ark and follow the gulf stream


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Dubl07


    Rather unknowable at the moment. The magnetic poles are moving, the icecaps are melting and seas are rising. I wouldn't move to a house on a beach or a cliff unless I was willing to write off the cost in 20-30 years. A big enough patch of land to grow crops. Somewhere over an aquifer that's partly lake, high up and remote with enough sun to run an array of solar panels and build a bunker into a stable mountain, away from geological faults and active volcanoes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,537 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Nowhere near low lying coast anyway because if ice-caps melt all that area which includes some of the most famous cities on Earth is totally f**ked and would include all of this islands main urban areas.

    I don't think Ireland in general would be good place to be, probably looking at something like this

    88b6f75c-01a1-4163-80bc-0c2b3024fcf0.jpg


  • Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Nowhere near low lying coast anyway because if ice-caps melt all that area which includes some of the most famous cities on Earth is totally f**ked and would include all of this islands main urban areas.

    I don't think Ireland in general would be good place to be, probably looking at something like this

    88b6f75c-01a1-4163-80bc-0c2b3024fcf0.jpg

    First dibs on the Wicklow hills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    I don't understand this talk of the Gulf stream breaking down. It is the air heated near the equator. It spins up towards us because of the earth's rotation. That is why we get it and Newfoundland does not. Now global cooling might weaken it but we are unlikely to experience such with our 'greenhouse' gas output.

    If the earth's average temp rises, the Gulf stream may strengthen to the point where frost is hardly known here in these islands (a little beyond our lifetime anyway). None of this will be 'new' of course. The people who built the walls of the Céide fields would have enjoyed a 10-11 month growing season.

    Ireland, agriculturally at least, will really benefit from having a warm climate and abundance of inland waterways. We will be a veritable Nile valley.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    topper75 wrote: »
    I don't understand this talk of the Gulf stream breaking down. It is the air heated near the equator. It spins up towards us because of the earth's rotation. That is why we get it and Newfoundland does not. Now global cooling might weaken it but we are unlikely to experience such with our 'greenhouse' gas output.

    If the earth's average temp rises, the Gulf stream may strengthen to the point where frost is hardly known here in these islands (a little beyond our lifetime anyway). None of this will be 'new' of course. The people who built the walls of the Céide fields would have enjoyed a 10-11 month growing season.

    Ireland, agriculturally at least, will really benefit from having a warm climate and abundance of inland waterways. We will be a veritable Nile valley.
    Exactly chill lads.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Sea levels are rising one or two millimeters per year.
    People need to ignore all the scare tactic headlines that contain "might","may",and "could".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    If worst comes to worst, most of the human population will die, making the problem of finding the space to live somewhat irrelevant. A bit warmer climate for us in the Northern Europe is not a problem. However, the climate change may kill almost all ocean life, just like in The Great Dying 252 million years ago, in which 95% of sea life and 70% of land animals died out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,513 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Its all a hoax and the earths resources are infinite and its just the loony left trying to carbon tax us all if you are to believe journal comments and boardsies so dont worry about it OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,777 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    First dibs on the Wicklow hills.

    You mean the Free City State of the Republic of Wicklow

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    You mean the Free City State of the Republic of Wicklow


    I'm loving this. We are banning cars and all going horse back!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    kneemos wrote: »
    Sea levels are rising one or two millimeters per year.
    People need to ignore all the scare tactic headlines that contain "might","may",and "could".

    And in 50 years that's possibly a 1 meter rise in sea. That's a lot of water.

    It's enough to have river banks in towns near the coast constantly break their banks.

    My house would definitely be uninhabitable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    And in 50 years that's possibly a 1 meter rise in sea. That's a lot of water.

    It's enough to have river banks in towns near the coast constantly break their banks.

    My house would definitely be uninhabitable.

    In fifty years it will be 0.1 metres.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,712 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    And in 50 years that's possibly a 1 meter rise in sea. That's a lot of water.

    It's enough to have river banks in towns near the coast constantly break their banks.

    My house would definitely be uninhabitable.

    mm not cm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    victor8600 wrote: »
    If worst comes to worst, most of the human population will die, making the problem of finding the space to live somewhat irrelevant. A bit warmer climate for us in the Northern Europe is not a problem. However, the climate change may kill almost all ocean life, just like in The Great Dying 252 million years ago, in which 95% of sea life and 70% of land animals died out.

    Well the point would be to prevent me being one of the dead. Haha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    kneemos wrote: »
    In fifty years it will be 0.1 metres.

    Don't ruin my exaggeration with your "accuracy". Haha.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭InTheShadows


    Hearing this "point of no return" rubbish for years now. We'll more than likely be hearing about it in another 20 years .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    An Australian environmental scientist described Ireland as a 'Lifeboat nation'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,079 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Hearing this "point of no return" rubbish for years now. We'll more than likely be hearing about it in another 20 years .

    We’ve already passed the point of no return for a lot of climate impacts. It’s a damage limitation exercise now.

    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    China is looking to build a new coal power station every 2 weeks for the next 12 years.

    https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2019/03/28/china-new-coal-plants-2030-climate/

    ditch those plastic straws folks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Nowhere near low lying coast anyway because if ice-caps melt all that area which includes some of the most famous cities on Earth is totally f**ked and would include all of this islands main urban areas.

    I don't think Ireland in general would be good place to be, probably looking at something like this
    88b6f75c-01a1-4163-80bc-0c2b3024fcf0.jpg

    I'll be grand so. Just have to dig the moat and stock it with alligators to keep the rest of ye feckers out ... :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭kikilarue2


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Nowhere near low lying coast anyway because if ice-caps melt all that area which includes some of the most famous cities on Earth is totally f**ked and would include all of this islands main urban areas.

    I don't think Ireland in general would be good place to be, probably looking at something like this

    88b6f75c-01a1-4163-80bc-0c2b3024fcf0.jpg

    Presumably if that scenario became likely we would build sea walls or something and not just let it happen?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ditch those plastic straws folks!


    An extra euro on the bale of briquettes will help too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Hobosan


    A small patch of land called Siberia will be back in play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,537 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    Presumably if that scenario became likely we would build sea walls or something and not just let it happen?

    I don't think sea walls would do much. Netherlands, Denmark which have massive flood defenses would be completely under water if ice-caps melted. Thames barrier in London would be useless as entire south of England would become part of the sea.

    If we look at numbers. The sea has risen about 6-8 inches last 100 years so practically nothing. If all the ice in the North Pole and Greenland melted the sea level would rise by 20 feet. However if all the ice in Antarctica melted you would be looking at a global sea rise of 200 feet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭kikilarue2


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    I don't think sea walls would do much. Netherlands, Denmark which have massive flood defenses would be completely under water if ice-caps melted. Thames barrier in London would be useless as entire south of England would become part of the sea.

    If we look at numbers. The sea has risen about 6-8 inches last 100 years so practically nothing. If all the ice in the North Pole and Greenland melted the sea level would rise by 20 feet. However if all the ice in Antarctica melted you would be looking at a global sea rise of 200 feet.

    How likely is that?


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