Assuming the climate is screwed, where to live in the future?

BrokenArrows · 29-07-2019 04:42PM #1

So let's be pesemistic and assume we have passed the point of no return and the world is destined to be wrecked in the next 50 years.

I plan on being comfortably retired in 50 years, so where is likely to be the best place to be living in 50 years.

Will Africa become a tropical paradise, will Ireland become a desert, will the snowy Alps be a warm lake view?

Harry Palmr · 29-07-2019 04:44PM

You're already living there if you're in Ireland.

The only likely thing that can feck us up and it's not terminal is the Gulf Stream failing which if it happens will turn us into Newfoundland or the west coast of Norway, which isn't the worst fate.

Your Face · 29-07-2019 04:44PM

RMAOK · 29-07-2019 04:47PM

Live on top of Everest - when all the ice melts at the North and South Pole, Everest will become highly sought after beach side property....

jimgoose · 29-07-2019 04:49PM

As said by another poster, Ireland will be as good as anywhere else if, as is starting to look rather likely, the World's climate goes all sorts of tits-up. The worsening wars over arable land and water as vast swathes of the rest of the World goes Mad Max will be good craic as well, mind.

jester77 · 29-07-2019 04:50PM

Build your own ark and follow the gulf stream

Dubl07 · 29-07-2019 04:51PM

Rather unknowable at the moment. The magnetic poles are moving, the icecaps are melting and seas are rising. I wouldn't move to a house on a beach or a cliff unless I was willing to write off the cost in 20-30 years. A big enough patch of land to grow crops. Somewhere over an aquifer that's partly lake, high up and remote with enough sun to run an array of solar panels and build a bunker into a stable mountain, away from geological faults and active volcanoes.

rossie1977 · 29-07-2019 04:58PM

Nowhere near low lying coast anyway because if ice-caps melt all that area which includes some of the most famous cities on Earth is totally f**ked and would include all of this islands main urban areas.

I don't think Ireland in general would be good place to be, probably looking at something like this

29-07-2019 05:00PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

Nowhere near low lying coast anyway because if ice-caps melt all that area which includes some of the most famous cities on Earth is totally f**ked and would include all of this islands main urban areas.

I don't think Ireland in general would be good place to be, probably looking at something like this

First dibs on the Wicklow hills.

topper75 · 29-07-2019 05:31PM

I don't understand this talk of the Gulf stream breaking down. It is the air heated near the equator. It spins up towards us because of the earth's rotation. That is why we get it and Newfoundland does not. Now global cooling might weaken it but we are unlikely to experience such with our 'greenhouse' gas output.

If the earth's average temp rises, the Gulf stream may strengthen to the point where frost is hardly known here in these islands (a little beyond our lifetime anyway). None of this will be 'new' of course. The people who built the walls of the Céide fields would have enjoyed a 10-11 month growing season.

Ireland, agriculturally at least, will really benefit from having a warm climate and abundance of inland waterways. We will be a veritable Nile valley.

ILoveYourVibes · 29-07-2019 05:33PM

topper75 wrote: »

I don't understand this talk of the Gulf stream breaking down. It is the air heated near the equator. It spins up towards us because of the earth's rotation. That is why we get it and Newfoundland does not. Now global cooling might weaken it but we are unlikely to experience such with our 'greenhouse' gas output.

If the earth's average temp rises, the Gulf stream may strengthen to the point where frost is hardly known here in these islands (a little beyond our lifetime anyway). None of this will be 'new' of course. The people who built the walls of the Céide fields would have enjoyed a 10-11 month growing season.

Ireland, agriculturally at least, will really benefit from having a warm climate and abundance of inland waterways. We will be a veritable Nile valley.

Exactly chill lads.

kneemos · 29-07-2019 05:42PM

Sea levels are rising one or two millimeters per year.
People need to ignore all the scare tactic headlines that contain "might","may",and "could".

Apiarist · 29-07-2019 05:50PM

If worst comes to worst, most of the human population will die, making the problem of finding the space to live somewhat irrelevant. A bit warmer climate for us in the Northern Europe is not a problem. However, the climate change may kill almost all ocean life, just like in The Great Dying 252 million years ago, in which 95% of sea life and 70% of land animals died out.

Thelonious Monk · 29-07-2019 05:55PM

Its all a hoax and the earths resources are infinite and its just the loony left trying to carbon tax us all if you are to believe journal comments and boardsies so dont worry about it OP

TheValeyard · 29-07-2019 05:59PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

First dibs on the Wicklow hills.

You mean the Free City State of the Republic of Wicklow

ILoveYourVibes · 29-07-2019 06:01PM

TheValeyard wrote: »

You mean the Free City State of the Republic of Wicklow

I'm loving this. We are banning cars and all going horse back!

BrokenArrows · 29-07-2019 06:08PM

kneemos wrote: »

Sea levels are rising one or two millimeters per year.
People need to ignore all the scare tactic headlines that contain "might","may",and "could".

And in 50 years that's possibly a 1 meter rise in sea. That's a lot of water.

It's enough to have river banks in towns near the coast constantly break their banks.

My house would definitely be uninhabitable.

kneemos · 29-07-2019 06:11PM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

And in 50 years that's possibly a 1 meter rise in sea. That's a lot of water.

It's enough to have river banks in towns near the coast constantly break their banks.

My house would definitely be uninhabitable.

In fifty years it will be 0.1 metres.

YFlyer · 29-07-2019 06:13PM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

And in 50 years that's possibly a 1 meter rise in sea. That's a lot of water.

It's enough to have river banks in towns near the coast constantly break their banks.

My house would definitely be uninhabitable.

mm not cm.

BrokenArrows · 29-07-2019 06:13PM

victor8600 wrote: »

If worst comes to worst, most of the human population will die, making the problem of finding the space to live somewhat irrelevant. A bit warmer climate for us in the Northern Europe is not a problem. However, the climate change may kill almost all ocean life, just like in The Great Dying 252 million years ago, in which 95% of sea life and 70% of land animals died out.

Well the point would be to prevent me being one of the dead. Haha.

BrokenArrows · 29-07-2019 06:15PM

kneemos wrote: »

In fifty years it will be 0.1 metres.

Don't ruin my exaggeration with your "accuracy". Haha.

InTheShadows · 29-07-2019 06:19PM

Hearing this "point of no return" rubbish for years now. We'll more than likely be hearing about it in another 20 years .

Plumbthedepths · 29-07-2019 06:20PM

An Australian environmental scientist described Ireland as a 'Lifeboat nation'.

Akrasia · 29-07-2019 06:22PM

InTheShadows wrote: »

Hearing this "point of no return" rubbish for years now. We'll more than likely be hearing about it in another 20 years .

We’ve already passed the point of no return for a lot of climate impacts. It’s a damage limitation exercise now.

suicide_circus · 29-07-2019 06:26PM

China is looking to build a new coal power station every 2 weeks for the next 12 years.

https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2019/03/28/china-new-coal-plants-2030-climate/

ditch those plastic straws folks!

gozunda · 29-07-2019 06:28PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

Nowhere near low lying coast anyway because if ice-caps melt all that area which includes some of the most famous cities on Earth is totally f**ked and would include all of this islands main urban areas.

I don't think Ireland in general would be good place to be, probably looking at something like this

I'll be grand so. Just have to dig the moat and stock it with alligators to keep the rest of ye feckers out ... :pac:

kikilarue2 · 29-07-2019 06:31PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

Nowhere near low lying coast anyway because if ice-caps melt all that area which includes some of the most famous cities on Earth is totally f**ked and would include all of this islands main urban areas.

I don't think Ireland in general would be good place to be, probably looking at something like this

Presumably if that scenario became likely we would build sea walls or something and not just let it happen?

Plumbthedepths · 29-07-2019 06:33PM

suicide_circus wrote:

ditch those plastic straws folks!

An extra euro on the bale of briquettes will help too.

Hobosan · 29-07-2019 06:41PM

A small patch of land called Siberia will be back in play.

rossie1977 · 29-07-2019 06:42PM

kikilarue2 wrote: »

Presumably if that scenario became likely we would build sea walls or something and not just let it happen?

I don't think sea walls would do much. Netherlands, Denmark which have massive flood defenses would be completely under water if ice-caps melted. Thames barrier in London would be useless as entire south of England would become part of the sea.

If we look at numbers. The sea has risen about 6-8 inches last 100 years so practically nothing. If all the ice in the North Pole and Greenland melted the sea level would rise by 20 feet. However if all the ice in Antarctica melted you would be looking at a global sea rise of 200 feet.

kikilarue2 · 29-07-2019 06:44PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

I don't think sea walls would do much. Netherlands, Denmark which have massive flood defenses would be completely under water if ice-caps melted. Thames barrier in London would be useless as entire south of England would become part of the sea.

If we look at numbers. The sea has risen about 6-8 inches last 100 years so practically nothing. If all the ice in the North Pole and Greenland melted the sea level would rise by 20 feet. However if all the ice in Antarctica melted you would be looking at a global sea rise of 200 feet.

How likely is that?

Assuming the climate is screwed, where to live in the future?

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