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What's with junkies drinking Yops all the time?

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  • #62
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    corner of hells wrote: »
    I know from working with addicts that.............

    Buddy I volunteered with SIMON community about for 6 months 15 years ago. It would break your heart dealing with the homeless and more so with Addicts.
    You Sir are a living saint and I have no idea what motivates you, because I was worn out after 6 months

    My team leader threatens me into working.Shes a tiny little psycho .


  • #63
    corner of hells
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    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    corner of hells wrote: »
    I know from working with addicts that there are barbers and hairdressers in Dublin who give their services for free to homeless service users.

    Oh, that's extremely decent of them.

    Some homeless person told me recently that there's a fast food outlet (he didn't know which one), which goes around putting down hot foot beside homeless people after they close. Just because. I hope for the sake of those people that there is a heaven.


    You would be amazed at the humanity of people when it comes to homeless people. It never comes up in the media what some individuals do.


  • #64
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    corner of hells wrote: »
    I know from working with addicts that there are barbers and hairdressers in Dublin who give their services for free to homeless service users.

    Oh, that's extremely decent of them.

    Some homeless person told me recently that there's a fast food outlet (he didn't know which one), which goes around putting down hot foot beside homeless people after they close. Just because. I hope for the sake of those people that there is a heaven.

    That's true , theres a pizza takeaway who known for their generosity as well as one of the doughnut franchises.


  • #65
    L1011
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    GarIT wrote: »
    I assumed methadone would be injected too, you drink it?

    Methadone is (as far as I know, from working on the medical side in the past) only provided orally in Ireland. Definitely never injected.

    Street users would normally be required to take it supervised; generally only long-term stable users are allowed take it home.
    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    My missus is in a shop selling "Yahoo" (sugary premixed milkshake), same thing as Yop! before I got my street smart education from her. I bought a bottle of it to see what it was like. The shop assistant was looking at me "WTF do you want THAT for?". I often question why my missus stocks it in her shop if all it does is bring in trouble?

    Yazoo. Its made by a Belgian dairy co-op and its a perfectly legitimate product. Though the chocolate and vanilla versions are disgusting. I buy it from time to time; and my chemical dependencies are all entirely legal and self funded.


  • #66
    corner of hells
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    L1011 wrote: »
    GarIT wrote: »
    I assumed methadone would be injected too, you drink it?

    Methadone is (as far as I know, from working on the medical side in the past) only provided orally in Ireland. Definitely never injected.

    Street users would normally be required to take it supervised; generally only long-term stable users are allowed take it home.
    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    My missus is in a shop selling "Yahoo" (sugary premixed milkshake), same thing as Yop! before I got my street smart education from her. I bought a bottle of it to see what it was like. The shop assistant was looking at me "WTF do you want THAT for?". I often question why my missus stocks it in her shop if all it does is bring in trouble?

    Yazoo. Its made by a Belgian dairy co-op and its a perfectly legitimate product. Though the chocolate and vanilla versions are disgusting. I buy it from time to time; and my chemical dependencies are all entirely legal and self funded.

    Hey Bud , wanna buy some Yazoo ?
    It's the good stuff , none of yer cheap Yop crap.


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  • #67
    skooterblue2
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    L1011 wrote: »



    Yazoo. Its made by a Belgian dairy co-op and its a perfectly legitimate product.

    Still taste like shet, I only bought it once out of curiosity..... are you sure you arent on opiods? I couldnt think why anyone who buy it!


  • #68
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Autecher wrote: »
    It is that and has been said heroin messes the stomach up so this is kind of like relief to them too. My brother must drink at least 2 litres of milk a day.
    Drinking a lot of milk can be a sign of being deficient in vitamins .


  • #69
    Hector Savage
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    banie01 wrote: »
    It's quite hard to get opiod constipation if ya aren't eating solid food ;)

    And believe me, the constipation from opiods can be fúcking awful!
    Speaking of which, must get some yops in!



  • #70
    Bob Harris
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    It's kinda funny how they destroy their bodies and minds shooting up on heroin but are conscientious enough to drink Yop to avoid constipation.


  • #71
    suicide_circus
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    yop and yazoo and completely different products. yop is a thin yogurt drink the other is a milkshake type thing


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  • #72
    s8n
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    when we are on the subject, why is there always a junkie with a crutch ??


  • #73
    banie01
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    It's the high functioning addicts who can afford Mooju that need watching...
    Where are they getting all that money from?

    How can they afford 2 addictions! :pac:


  • #74
    blinding
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    s8n wrote: »
    when we are on the subject, why is there always a junkie with a crutch ??
    An outward Manifestation of what is going on inside .

    Probably the type of people to get themselves into some sort of bother or other even self inflicted bother .


  • #75
    Sardonicat
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    Autecher wrote: »
    Yeah it’s a medicine that from my experience of being around dozens of junkies doesn’t really do anything. Even my brother who is the biggest junkie scumbag piece of shít i’ve ever known sells his weekly dose of doctor prescribed methadone that he has been getting for years and uses the money to buy more heroin. And the people he sells it to either sell it on to someone else or take it in between heroin fixes because they are all hopeless junkies too.

    Why does he not have to drink it in the chemist's where it's dispensed into a little medicine cup and given to them to drink on the premises? I see them at my chemist's from time to time. They bring them into the little consulting room. I thought that's how it had to be done?


  • #76
    Sardonicat
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    s8n wrote: »
    when we are on the subject, why is there always a junkie with a crutch ??

    Ah! Me leg, me leg!


  • #77
    corner of hells
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    s8n wrote: »
    when we are on the subject, why is there always a junkie with a crutch ??

    Because of IV drug use into the groin , leg and feet leading to ulcers, abscess and infection.


  • #78
    corner of hells
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    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Autecher wrote: »
    Yeah it’s a medicine that from my experience of being around dozens of junkies doesn’t really do anything. Even my brother who is the biggest junkie scumbag piece of shít i’ve ever known sells his weekly dose of doctor prescribed methadone that he has been getting for years and uses the money to buy more heroin. And the people he sells it to either sell it on to someone else or take it in between heroin fixes because they are all hopeless junkies too.

    Why does he not have to drink it in the chemist's where it's dispensed into a little medicine cup and given to them to drink on the premises? I see them at my chemist's from time to time. They bring them into the little consulting room. I thought that's how it had to be done?

    As an addict stabilises he may be trusted more and more by his prescribing GP who is agreeable to his methadone being given as " takeaways ".
    Some addicts do start, start to function in society and to look towards treatment.


  • #79
    Bigbagofcans
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Self imposed death, like people choosing to continue to smoke after 1980 when detailed warnings appeared on the packs and then complaining they got lung cancer.

    That's an awful thing to say. Diagnosis of lung cancer will continue irrespective of not smoking or leading a "healthy" life. Unfair to stigmatise others.

    Putting yourself in other people's shoes might make you more empathetic.


  • #80
    PieOhMy
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    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    You really want to know?
    When junkies miss a hit then the digestive system starts up, its like the old adage of wearing bicycle clips when you got the trots....Keeps it all in the one place. :eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Seriously I dont know. I am guessing it is the style in the Tracksuit Brigade, so they can spot their own kinds as opposed to the guy in the canterbury tracksuit from D4.

    Not sure if it's the same for Junkies but I remember some lads as school wud tuck the tracksuit into their socks so that when robbing a shop (sweets etc) they cud just quickly put whatever into the waistband and let it fall down to ankle height and then just walk out the door.


  • #81
    Autecher
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    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Why does he not have to drink it in the chemist's where it's dispensed into a little medicine cup and given to them to drink on the premises? I see them at my chemist's from time to time. They bring them into the little consulting room. I thought that's how it had to be done?
    He has somehow convinced his doctor that he is heroin free. He used to have to do as you said and do a piss test once a week for his doctor. When he did it for long enough (according to the doctor) he moved onto this system he is on now. He goes to the chemist 1 day a week (usually Sundays) to get a week's supply and doesn't have to do piss tests anymore. It is a ludicrous situation because he has been on this latest system for 6 or 7 years now. How someone is allowed to have a prescription for a medicine that is supposed to help ease you off an addictive drug for so long I'll never know, especially when he is clearly back on the gear. Either you kicked the habit so don't need the medicine anymore or you didn't so shouldn't be taking the medicine anymore.


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  • #82
    Sardonicat
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    As an addict stabilises he may be trusted more and more by his prescribing GP who is agreeable to his methadone being given as " takeaways ".
    Some addicts do start, start to function in society and to look towards treatment.

    Ah, I see. Is that a recent thing? I ask because I had to attend training for work where this was covered and was told they had to take it on premises. If it's known that people are selling it on surely it's a bad idea to let them take it home?


  • #83
    corner of hells
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    PieOhMy wrote: »
    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    You really want to know?
    When junkies miss a hit then the digestive system starts up, its like the old adage of wearing bicycle clips when you got the trots....Keeps it all in the one place. :eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Seriously I dont know. I am guessing it is the style in the Tracksuit Brigade, so they can spot their own kinds as opposed to the guy in the canterbury tracksuit from D4.

    Not sure if it's the same for Junkies but I remember some lads as school wud tuck the tracksuit into their socks so that when robbing a shop (sweets etc) they cud just quickly put whatever into the waistband and let it fall down to ankle height and then just walk out the door.

    And these lads then graduated straight onto heroin.


  • #84
    corner of hells
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    Sardonicat wrote: »
    corner of hells wrote: »
    As an addict stabilises he may be trusted more and more by his prescribing GP who is agreeable to his methadone being given as " takeaways ".
    Some addicts do start, start to function in society and to look towards treatment.

    Ah, I see. Is that a recent thing? I ask because I had to attend training for work where this was covered and was told they had to take it on premises. If it's known that people are selling it on surely it's a bad idea to let them take it home?

    Poster above a answered your question,
    It's a process, an addict starts off taking his methadone in his clinic in front of a medic.
    As he stabilises he may get weekend takeaways, them maybe a weeks worth of prescription.
    Some do well , some don't.


  • #85
    Sleeper12
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    Autecher wrote: »
    He has somehow convinced his doctor that he is heroin free. He used to have to do as you said and do a piss test once a week for his doctor. When he did it for long enough (according to the doctor) he moved onto this system he is on now. He goes to the chemist 1 day a week (usually Sundays) to get a week's supply and doesn't have to do piss tests anymore. It is a ludicrous situation because he has been on this latest system for 6 or 7 years now. How someone is allowed to have a prescription for a medicine that is supposed to help ease you off an addictive drug for so long I'll never know, especially when he is clearly back on the gear. Either you kicked the habit so don't need the medicine anymore or you didn't so shouldn't be taking the medicine anymore.




    None of the above sounds right at all. Doctor is supposed to get regular samples off him. Doctor is supposed to give script for 7 daily doses that the pharmacist gives out each day. I've never ever heard of someone getting seven days supply unless going on holidays. Doctor & pharmacist should be reported as they aren't following the guidelines.


  • #86
    Autecher
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    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    None of the above sounds right at all. Doctor is supposed to get regular samples off him. Doctor is supposed to give script for 7 daily doses that the pharmacist gives out each day. I've never ever heard of someone getting seven days supply unless going on holidays. Doctor & pharmacist should be reported as they aren't following the guidelines.
    I get this info from my parents, I don't speak to my brother at all even though I see him when I visit my family 2-3 times a week. I neither know nor care about the rest of it, or him obviously.


  • #87
    skooterblue2
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    Autecher wrote: »
    I get this info from my parents, I don't speak to my brother at all even though I see him when I visit my family 2-3 times a week. I neither know nor care about the rest of it, or him obviously.

    I dont blame you they are impossible people to work with and I wouldnt trust a word out of their mouths. Honestly save yourself because you cant save your parents from him.


  • #88
    [Deleted User]
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    Keeps their bowels moving.


    Seriously!


  • #89
    Autecher
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    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    I dont blame you they are impossible people to work with and I wouldnt trust a word out of their mouths. Honestly save yourself because you cant save your parents from him.
    Ah look, he is 38 and been a cúnt since he was about 12. He was a cúnt before he was a junkie and he is still one now with no change in-between. My parents just won't kick him out no matter what he does to them and the rest of the family, I have given up trying to get through to them. I just listen to them rant about him but it's up to them to do something about it. You can't help people who won't help themselves.


  • #90
    blueberrypie
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    Homeless charities ask for runners to be donated....
    nearly new and in good condition so maybe that is why they are well kitted out.


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  • #91
    skooterblue2
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    Autecher wrote: »
    Ah look, he is 38 and been a cúnt since he was about 12. He was a cúnt before he was a junkie and he is still one now with no change in-between. My parents just won't kick him out no matter what he does to them and the rest of the family, I have given up trying to get through to them. I just listen to them rant about him but it's up to them to do something about it. You can't help people who won't help themselves.

    How does he last that long at 38? I dont think I have ever seen a junkie over 32-35? Junkies never last long in the real world. Oh I get it now! your parents keep him fed and watered and fix him up when his system is shot and he pilfers everything that isnt nailed down.

    Your parents shouldnt have to put up with that at their age. I have a similar story "Lee-anne is going to turn around and get better and do something amazing with her life, just you see. Now we are all going to pray for her and she will get better you will see. I am going to make a novena for her". Been hearing this crap fro years.


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