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    #932
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    You think a count shouldn't be kept? You have no comment on the amount of blatant lies he has told?



    AHHHHH when in doubt and you don't like the subject just bring up the Clintons. :rolleyes:

    I guess it’s just me that expects politicians to lie to an extent and stretch the truth. One doesn’t normally expect politicians to kill off anyone that crosses or disagrees with them.

    You should google arkancide. It’s fascinating.


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    #933
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    The philosopher Merold Westphal said that only people who know themselves to be guilty of something "can find comfort in finding others to be just as bad or worse."

    Ah my friend. I’ve missed your words of wisdom.


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    #934
    circadian
    Registered Users Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭circadian


    mad muffin wrote: »
    And aoc managed to lose billions in revenue from Amazon. What’s you’re point?

    Did she? What kind of revenue? Surely not taxes since amazon paid 0 in corporate taxes in 2017 and 2018.

    She protected people from taking a job from a company that continuously exploits its workers. Their wages would not come close to a living wage in Queens. There would be barely any revenue generated by the employees of these new jobs since they'd have no disposable income.

    It's a much more nuanced story than a guy who bankrupted a casino using his rich dad's money.


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    #935
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,457 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    mad muffin wrote: »
    I guess it’s just me that expects politicians to lie to an extent and stretch the truth. One doesn’t normally expect politicians to kill off anyone that crosses or disagrees with them.

    You should google arkancide. It’s fascinating.


    Yeah I've heard of it, so much "evidence" yet no arrests.

    If rumours were evidence your beloved Trump would be locked away as a sex offender and child rapist.


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    #936
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    circadian wrote: »
    Did she? What kind of revenue? Surely not taxes since amazon paid 0 in corporate taxes in 2017 and 2018.

    She protected people from taking a job from a company that continuously exploits its workers. Their wages would not come close to a living wage in Queens. There would be barely any revenue generated by the employees of these new jobs since they'd have no disposable income.

    It's a much more nuanced story than a guy who bankrupted a casino using his rich dad's money.

    Like this?
    Cuomo and other supporters of the project said that Amazon would have brought more than enough investment to the city to justify the tax breaks, and would have established New York as a tech hub to rival other hubs like San Francisco.

    Additionally, he said, HQ2 would have brought “at least 25,000-40,000 good paying jobs for our state and nearly $30 billion dollars in new revenue to fund transit improvements, new housing, schools and countless other quality-of-life improvements.”


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    #937
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Yeah I've heard of it, so much "evidence" yet no arrests.

    If rumours were evidence your beloved Trump would be locked away as a sex offender and child rapist.

    Ha. Really?

    Okay I’ll bite…

    Care to share anything remotely evident?


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    #938
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Yeah I've heard of it, so much "evidence" yet no arrests.

    If rumours were evidence your beloved Trump would be locked away as a sex offender and child rapist.

    You're Trumps, Tommy Robinson.


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    #939
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,457 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    You're Trumps, Tommy Robinson.

    Nah


    Im not a convicted criminal.


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    #940
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Ah Obama made a bad mistake alright but it doesn't beat Trump's idea that airports existed a few hundred years ago.

    Yeah, the idea that a US presidential candidate thinks there is 57 states in the US is not on a par with Trump’s mistake. Who are you trying to kid?


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    #941
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Sonny noggs wrote: »
    Yeah, the idea that a US presidential candidate thinks there is 57 states in the US is not on a par with Trump’s mistake. Who are you trying to kid?

    Ha which one? He's made multiple.


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    #942
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Sure are and a Trump tweet has yet another CNN reporter in tears today. How many is that now?


    https://twitter.com/Alyssa_Milano/status/1155147384185380864

    Okay, so now we’ve seen the liberal media and the Democrats response to this tweet. Basically they cry racism. Then closing their eyes and putting their fingers in their ears shouting lalalalala it’s all trumps fault. Trump is lying.

    Or in the congressional hearing. Shouting down at the border agents why aren’t they doing their jobs, when it’s the Dems withholding funds.

    Well this video here’s shines a spotlight on their hypocrisy. It’s amazing how cnn will show a reporter reporting the news crying INFESTED over and over blaming trump but never a mention of elijah cummings incompetence.

    Can you imagine if this network showed real news. This clown of a reporter would be calling out elijah cummings, and crying because his city is in ruin and the people live in 3rd world condition.

    He’d be crying HYPOCRISY! HYPOCRISY! HYPOCRISY! because elijah cummings let’s his people live in the same condition he shouts about the children live in at the detention centres (which of course they don’t). And now Pelosi is crying racism. Lol.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ZXEAc6pWs



    There’s also this very good video here showing the tweets that the liberal media conveniently cut out.
    A real eye opener.
    https://youtu.be/lYh81wCUT90


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    #943
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    You see the problem is Muffin what you guys call real news isn't verified. It's like you making a point based on something your wife told you. The rest of the news outlets to some degree verify their news. Also some of you guys obsessed with American politics (I actually work there) are conspiracy theorists and claim everyone is out to get you including the media.


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    #944
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    You see the problem is Muffin what you guys call real news isn't verified. It's like you making a point based on something your wife told you. The rest of the news outlets to some degree verify their news. Also some of you guys obsessed with American politics (I actually work there) are conspiracy theorists and claim everyone is out to get you including the media.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    https://youtu.be/GOV8NlSFK0c


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    #945
    Outlaw Pete
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    mad muffin wrote: »
    Well this video here’s shines a spotlight on their hypocrisy. It’s amazing how cnn will show a reporter reporting the news crying INFESTED over and over blaming trump but never a mention of elijah cummings incompetence.

    Yeah, seen a few clips showing similar footage this morning from people based in Baltimore who fully support the POTUS's comments.

    Leftist media are inferring racism from Trump's comments cause they have to keep that narrative going but here's Obama using the same term during his tenure:


    https://twitter.com/ali/status/1155281054762184704


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    #946
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Yeah, seen a few clips showing similar footage this morning from people based in Baltimore who fully support the POTUS's comments.

    Leftist media are inferring racism from Trump's comments cause they have to keep that narrative going but here's Obama using the same term during his tenure:


    https://twitter.com/ali/status/1155281054762184704

    Hey Pete could you play the whole clip that seems heavily edited to me.


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    #947
    batgoat
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    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Yeah, seen a few clips showing similar footage this morning from people based in Baltimore who fully support the POTUS's comments.

    Leftist media are inferring racism from Trump's comments cause they have to keep that narrative going but here's Obama using the same term during his tenure:


    https://twitter.com/ali/status/1155281054762184704

    That quote is very much about reform meanwhile this is just a rant of a rather racist kind to target a Representative for the area, “disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess”. Also let's not forget he didn't even go as far as pointing out the fact that are decent good people there as well which he did for the Neo Nazi march... I'm gonna leave this with David Simon who is somewhat of an expert on the topic.

    https://twitter.com/AoDespair/status/1155081225968730112?s=19


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    #948
    dudara
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    mad muffin wrote: »
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    This is not an acceptable response. Up the standard.

    dudara


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    #949
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Yeah, seen a few clips showing similar footage this morning from people based in Baltimore who fully support the POTUS's comments.

    Leftist media are inferring racism from Trump's comments cause they have to keep that narrative going but here's Obama using the same term during his tenure:


    https://twitter.com/ali/status/1155281054762184704

    The difference is Pete that Obama was talking about homelessness, crime and poverty in some parts of America and the socio-economic relationship between crime and poverty. Trump used it as a mechanism to attack Elijah Cummings. Obama talks about crime infested areas while Trump says this

    ‘He does NOTHING for his very poor, very dangerous and very badly run district!’

    and
    Cumming District is a disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess

    See the difference. I admit I might be from a working class area myself but I'm being a snob here. Obama's eloquence makes Trump look really bad.I do think the sentiment is racist though. He's had multiple demonstrations of racism so it's hard to discount that.


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    #950
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Yeah, seen a few clips showing similar footage this morning from people based in Baltimore who fully support the POTUS's comments.

    Leftist media are inferring racism from Trump's comments cause they have to keep that narrative going but here's Obama using the same term during his tenure:


    https://twitter.com/ali/status/1155281054762184704

    You know if they (Democrats) didn’t concentrate so much on giving everything up to their next voter base coming over the southern border. They’d actually have some money to help out their own citizens.

    Haha. Who am I kidding. They have never been interested in helping their citizens. Boltimore Has been like that for decades. And Cummings has been its rep since the 90’s. The democrats mo has always been to keep their voter base poor and uneducated. And their elite liberal voter base some of the richest in the nation. Perpetrating the lie that Democrats are progressive.


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    #951
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    mad muffin wrote: »
    You know if they (Democrats) didn’t concentrate so much on giving everything up to their next voter base coming over the southern border. They’d actually have some money to help out their own citizens.

    Haha. Who am I kidding. They have never been interested in helping their citizens. Boltimore Has been like that for decades. And Cummings has been its rep since the 90’s. The democrats mo has always been to keep their voter base poor and uneducated. And their elite liberal voter base some of the richest in the nation. Perpetrating the lie that Democrats are progressive.

    MM in my previous post I wondered how many Trump fans here actually live in America. You're missing a well acknowledged and easily googled point. Do you know along which lines the poorest states vote for and who the richest generally vote for?


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    #952
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    batgoat wrote: »
    That quote is very much about reform meanwhile this is just a rant of a rather racist kind to target a Representative for the area, “disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess”. Also let's not forget he didn't even go as far as pointing out the fact that are decent good people there as well which he did for the Neo Nazi march... I'm gonna leave this with David Simon who is somewhat of an expert on the topic.

    https://twitter.com/AoDespair/status/1155081225968730112?s=19
    If this empty-suit, race-hating fraud had to actually visit West Baltimore for five minutes and meet any of the American citizens who endure there, he’d wet himself.

    What are they enduring exactly?

    Oh that’s right. Rats. Garbage. Highest criminal levels in America. They are indeed brave. Brave for voting in the same people who keep them in that state.


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    #953
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    mad muffin wrote: »
    What are they enduring exactly?

    Oh that’s right. Rats. Garbage. Highest criminal levels in America. They are indeed brave. Brave for voting in the same people who keep them in that state.

    Again you're leading me onto my point. Are the poorest states in America red or blue voting?


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    #954
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    MM in my previous post I wondered how many Trump fans here actually live in America. You're missing a well acknowledged and easily googled point. Do you know along which lines the poorest states vote for and who the richest generally vote for?
    steddyeddy wrote: »

    Again you're leading me onto my point. Are the poorest states in America red or blue voting?

    Haha are you kidding me. You think you are going to catch me out as some in informed fool?

    As we all well know. And as the video I posted about Baltimore. The Democrat states are the richest but they have largest proportion of homelessness and cities like Baltimore where a majority black city on one of the richest states is one of the poorest in America.

    Nice try. Next.


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    #955
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    mad muffin wrote: »
    You know if they (Democrats) didn’t concentrate so much on giving everything up to their next voter base coming over the southern border. They’d actually have some money to help out their own citizens.

    Haha. Who am I kidding. They have never been interested in helping their citizens. Boltimore Has been like that for decades. And Cummings has been its rep since the 90’s. The democrats mo has always been to keep their voter base poor and uneducated. And their elite liberal voter base some of the richest in the nation. Perpetrating the lie that Democrats are progressive.

    Thanks for conceding this MM. I'll expand on your admission. In fact 18 out of the 19th states are republican run. So that's 94% of the poorest states are Republican run. You're picking one admittedly run down district as proof that Democrats keep they're voter base poor and uneducated as 94% of poor states vote republican and stay poor? You'll forgive me if I don't base my voting on your analysis.
    Eighteen of the 19 poorest states have legislatures where both chambers are Republican controlled.
    New Mexico (46th richest, fifth poorest) is Democratic. But there isn’t another blue or purple state until you get to purple Maine (31st richest, 20th poorest) with its “split” legislature of one party in each chamber. All the states in between (such as Tennessee and Florida) are Republican, both chambers. So is Michigan, where Republicans hold all high state offices (where Donald Trump won in 2016). Above New Mexico, you jump all the way to middle of the pack Vermont (27th richest, 24th poorest) to find a state with both legislative chambers held by Democrats.


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    #956
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Haha are you kidding me. You think you are going to catch me out as some in informed fool?

    To be honest M I give you credit for being informed here. You've previously expressed disbelief in the print media, instead turning more to Twitter for news. That's not an attack by the way but a description.


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    #957
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Thanks for conceding this MM. I'll expand on your admission. In fact 18 out of the 19th states are republican run. So that's 94% of the poorest states are Republican run. You're picking one admittedly run down district as proof that Democrats keep they're voter base poor and uneducated as 94% of poor states vote republican and stay poor? You'll forgive me if I don't base my voting on your analysis.

    New Mexico (46th richest, fifth poorest) is Democratic. But there isn’t another blue or purple state until you get to purple Maine (31st richest, 20th poorest) with its “split” legislature of one party in each chamber. All the states in between (such as Tennessee and Florida) are Republican, both chambers. So is Michigan, where Republicans hold all high state offices (where Donald Trump won in 2016). Above New Mexico, you jump all the way to middle of the pack Vermont (27th richest, 24th poorest) to find a state with both legislative chambers held by Democrats.

    I like your spin.

    But what you fail to mention, and of course entirely ignore in my post. Is that in the rich democrat states. The poorest cities are majority black. And those cities are the poorer and most dangerous in the USA.

    What you also fail to mention. Is that in these poor republican states. That their population is much lower. So if you actually decided it per capita it would even out.


    Next.


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    #958
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    mad muffin wrote: »

    But what you fail to mention, and of course entirely ignore in my post. Is that in the rich democrat states. The poorest cities are majority black. And those cities are the poorer and most dangerous in the USA.


    Give me some statistics please or move on. Are the black people poorer there than in 94% of the poorest republican voting states?

    What you also fail to mention. Is that in these poor republican states. That their population is much lower. So if you actually decided it per capita it would even out.

    That doesn't make sense.


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    #959
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    batgoat wrote: »
    That quote is very much about reform meanwhile this is just a rant of a rather racist kind to target a Representative for the area, “disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess”. Also let's not forget he didn't even go as far as pointing out the fact that are decent good people there as well which he did for the Neo Nazi march... I'm gonna leave this with David Simon who is somewhat of an expert on the topic.

    https://twitter.com/AoDespair/status/1155081225968730112?s=19

    Btw trumps tweet might not be elegant. It might be his backhander at Cummings for going after him. But it’s not false. And it’s nit racist. It is shining a light at his hypocrisy.

    As Cummings is shouting down at the boarder agents. His district is falling apart.


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    #960
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    batgoat wrote: »
    That quote is very much about reform meanwhile this is just a rant of a rather racist kind...

    There was ZERO racist about what he said. Stop seeing racism in everything.
    ..to target a Representative for the area

    Oh I agree that was his motive but that doesn't make what he said racist.

    If you had just stuck to that aspect of things I'd agree with you, but that's just it, the criticism of Trump can never just be the legitimate stuff, it always has to be exaggerated with accusations of racism thrown in. This is what annoys people.
    Also let's not forget he didn't even go as far as pointing out the fact that are decent good people there as well which he did for the Neo Nazi march...

    That makes zero sense. You just wanted to shoehorn 'Charlottesville' in.
    I'm gonna leave this with David Simon who is somewhat of an expert on the topic.

    Eh, there are people there that would make him wet himself?? You think that gives weight to your accusations? It doesn't. If anything it supports what Trump said.

    Anway, I'll leave you with a Baltimore Resident.


    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1155253573959028737


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    #961
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Again you're leading me onto my point. Are the poorest states in America red or blue voting?




    Most of the 10 poorest states are red, afaik.


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