Would you burn the bridge after an interview?

Problem Of Motivation · 27-07-2019 08:40PM

Hoboo wrote: »

I think that company dodged a bullet.

Oh, bite me!

peasant · 27-07-2019 08:40PM

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

... to make me look crazy.

no torch needed for that...:D

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 27-07-2019 08:47PM

Wow! They dodged a bullet there.

Problem Of Motivation · 27-07-2019 08:47PM

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Profoundly idiotic and an complete waste of time.

Nope, we just have different value systems.

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Nobody owes you a job or career.

As I already said to another tool, I never thought anyone owed me a job. But about about owing me a response?

TheBoyConor wrote: »

You should assume that you do not have the job until you actually have an offer in hand.

Don't you talk down to me.

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Most employers also state that expenses incurred by you attending the interview are yours and will not be reimbursed.

I wasn't born yesterday

TheBoyConor wrote: »

And if you do take the action you talk about you will only come across as a complete fool and it will only serve to assure the employer that they made the right choice not to hire you.

You just don't get it, do you. All that matters is that I get to inconvenience them.

TheBoyConor wrote: »

No business wants to hire passive aggressive vindictive game players such as yourself with a demonstrable lack of emotional and social wherewithal.

And why would I want to work for a business with two faced employees who don't have basic manners? Their loss!

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Maybe you should consider visiting a counsellor of some sort to discuss your anger issues.

You must eb the second person in a row to recommend a counsellor. You're obviously just trying to get a reaction out of me.

Problem Of Motivation · 27-07-2019 08:52PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Send them a bullet in the post with a note... I know where you live work!

Don't do it half arsed, if you're going to invest time in being a menace go all out.

In fact it's likely that you came across as half hearted in the interview and this is the reason that you didn't get the job. So, you show them what they're missing!

Or, and here's a thought, you could realise these people are dicks, you were one of many people they met during the process and while they were nice at the interview you really didn't make an impression, and move on.

I'll go with the bullet idea?

Problem Of Motivation · 27-07-2019 08:54PM

You're on my ignore list Srameen, so you needn't bother wasting your time trying to annoy me.

Problem Of Motivation · 27-07-2019 08:55PM

kikilarue2 wrote: »

That’s an absolutely horrendous attitude. By the same logic it’s your fault if you get robbed because you obviously marked yourself out as a victim.

I wouldn't even waste my breathe talking to people like him

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 27-07-2019 08:56PM

Somebody's in a real strop tonight.

Problem Of Motivation · 27-07-2019 09:00PM

kikilarue2 wrote: »

Jesus, sorry that happened you. In between the brutality, did it give you anything useful you could work on?

At least he actually heard back. At least he actually got truthful feedback.

Problem Of Motivation · 27-07-2019 09:02PM

The Tetrarch wrote: »

Nothing to be gained.
Years ago a family member got a job and wanted to tell his current employer as he was leaving what he thought of them.
I asked him was he going to stay in his new job until retirement. Answer was no.
Was it possible his next employer after that would contact his previous employers (you list your previous jobs)? Answer was yes.
Why make yourself unemployable for one minute of satisfaction?
Who knows where your letter of complaint could end up?
Interviewers: some have manners, others do not.
You may have been lucky not getting the job.

Very true, but that's different. That fella actually worked for that company. I do not work for this company. Why would I list a company I never worked for on a CV? Ireland is not as small a country as you seem to think it is. I'll take my chances. It would be different if I were famous or something

Problem Of Motivation · 27-07-2019 09:10PM

Julie Prehistoric Neurologist wrote: »

Some industries are just so small and you may end up working with some of these people in the future, or worse, for them.

That would be fun. i would have the upper hand.

27-07-2019 09:19PM

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

I'll go with the bullet idea?

You prevaricating again?

Strumms · 27-07-2019 09:27PM

I’m sorry but it’s unprofessional and discourteous for them not to make contact with you, either by calling or by letter. A very poor reflection on the company. You took the time out to prepare for the interview, went to the bother of showing up and not to hear back is unacceptable.

To pick up the phone for that 60 phone call, costs...60 seconds of their time. To get a generic thanks but no thanks letter printed off costs them similar. You probably dodged a bullet OP.

Think positive and better luck with your next application, don’t be disheartened.

lainey_d_123 · 28-07-2019 10:19AM

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Profoundly idiotic and an complete waste of time.

Another symptom of the culture of entitlement among young people today. Nobody owes you a job or career. You should assume that you do not have the job until you actually have an offer in hand. Most employers also state that expenses incurred by you attending the interview are yours and will not be reimbursed.

You seem to not be able to read between the lines.

And if you do take the action you talk about you will only come across as a complete fool and it will only serve to assure the employer that they made the right choice not to hire you. No business wants to hire passive aggressive vindictive game players such as yourself with a demonstrable lack of emotional and social wherewithal.

Forget this rubbish and move on with your life op.

Maybe you should consider visiting a counsellor of some sort to discuss your anger issues.

Wow, you've really been brainwashed, haven't you? You have the attitude of a serf who should be endlessly grateful for any work bestowed on you by your overlords. No wonder companies don't hesitate to treat people like sh1t when there's an endless supply of minions like you who'll lap it right up.

Everyone is owed basic respect. Everyone. Whether he got the job or not is irrelevant. He took the time to meet them and have an interview. He prepared for the interview, did his best and sat waiting to hear back for days on end. If they decided they didn't want/need what he was offering, they could have and should have spent two minutes drafting an email to let him know. It didn't even have to be a personal email. He'd have been happy with a form template if it let him know one way or the other so he wasn't waiting on an acceptance or rejection which was never going to come.

It's a totally unacceptable way to treat people and the more people who let them know it, the better. No need to get angry or play games - just state that you haven't heard back and are disappointed in the lack of courtesy. I wouldn't want to work for a company like that.

kikilarue2 · 28-07-2019 11:04AM

Leave an anonymous review on Glassdoor and eviscerate them - you’ll warn others off them and get your vengeance without putting yourself at risk.

fmpisces · 28-07-2019 11:05AM

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

This is something that happened quite a while ago, but I've been forced to think about it again recently. It's about a time I once traveled half the length of the country for an interview and I heard nothing back from them. The two who interviewed me acted all nice in the interview telling that I could email them if I'd any questions. After hearing nothing for two weeks, I was pretty sure by now that I hadn't got the job. I sent an email to the HR lady I dealt with to see what the situation was and I got no reply. I think this is really unprofessional of them, especially seeing as they were the ones suggesting that I could get in touch with them.

At the time I took the view that it was nasty of them, but that sound like a butt hurt loser ringing them up when I'd know they would be trying to avoid me. Something similar to this has happens to me twice now after interviews. I simply cannot pretend that it doesn't annoy anymore. If this ever happens to me again, once I have figured out for myself (the hard way) that I don't have the job (or don't second round interview), I will contact them. And when I do contact them, they will probably think I'm a bit stupid that I haven't figured out by now that I didn't get the job. They will also probably think that if there's any chance of me still being hired by them that I am going about it the wrong way.

And that's where they'll be so very wrong. Because I will make it my personal hobby to keep ringing up and annoying the sh1t out of them. The more they'd do the run around with me, the more I'd play dumb and keep ringing sending letters and emails, getting onto their superiors, etc. I will use them as my punch bag even if it means they think I'm some sort of a weirdo. And you might say there's no point but whatever would happen, you can be bloody sure that they'd remember it for ever more.

What would you do. First of all, it's going to piss you off, you cannot pretend it doesn't. And there's no point in saying it's nothing personal. I know a guy who this happened to who had actually traveled further than I did, and stayed overnight in a hotel. He made the point to stand up to them and they're actually changing their policy now. In his case the company he had the interview with, tried to blame it on the recruitment company as a miscommunication. The recruitment company was then forced to call a spade a spade.

So yeah, unlike my father's advice, I would burn that bridge to the ground.

I've often wondered why HR couldn't just fire off an email to unsuccessful candidates 'cos it's not nice to be left hanging but sure that's life and sh!t happens. The way I look at it is, what's for you won't pass you by.

28-07-2019 11:09AM

fmpisces wrote: »

I've often wondered why HR couldn't just fire off an email to unsuccessful candidates 'cos it's not nice to be left hanging but sure that's life and sh!t happens. The way I look at it is, what's for you won't pass you by.

Vanishing few companies have a HR department for starters, so you're left with a middle manager with other tasks requiring to get back to candidates.

Of course it's wrong of the interviewer not to get back to candidates. But, most do. Of course you don't hear from people that get told, 'Thanks but no thanks' letters. As that's just normal and not warranting a post on boards.ie or any other forum.

Strumms · 28-07-2019 11:10AM

I’m putting myself in the position of an employer here, if I’m interviewing five people for one position I’m going to finish each interview by...

- thanking the people for their time attending the interviews.

- advising them of a rough timeframe in which they will be notified and by what method, phone, email etc.

That is the professional and respectful thing to do. Again, people have taken time out of their life to prepare and come along and do their best to enable themselves to work for you. By offering them an interview you are not doing them a favor, if anything it ‘could’ be considered the opposite.

So take two minutes out of a fûcking 8 hour shift and do the attendees the courtesy of contacting them, either way.

If I’m sitting talking to mates about applying for a job in ZX Telecom, one tells me..” Jesus, I interviewed there last year, the two interviewing me were a bit rude and I didn’t even hear back”. I’m already of the mind that I’m not going to bother getting the suit pressed for that kind of experience...

So it IS going to reflect negatively on the company, not just from a hiring perspective but also I’d be slow to want to do business with them. I might tell friends too and word gets around.

So to employers... courtesy, respect and professionalism cost minutes of your time. Ignorance, disrespect, unprofessionalism and lack of good courtesy cost you good people when word gets around and money, having to hire temps when you can’t hold on to or indeed hire good people.

Problem Of Motivation · 28-07-2019 01:29PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

That said op. You're being a bit of a jerk there. You'd be just annoying someone who had no say in you getting the job or letting you know you didn't.

Incorrect in this case.

But even if it wasn't, I would use whoever I could as my punch bag because those people will know who's really responsible. Thank about it.

backspacer · 28-07-2019 09:03PM

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

This is something that happened quite a while ago, but I've been forced to think about it again recently. It's about a time I once traveled half the length of the country for an interview and I heard nothing back from them. The two who interviewed me acted all nice in the interview telling that I could email them if I'd any questions. After hearing nothing for two weeks, I was pretty sure by now that I hadn't got the job. I sent an email to the HR lady I dealt with to see what the situation was and I got no reply. I think this is really unprofessional of them, especially seeing as they were the ones suggesting that I could get in touch with them.

At the time I took the view that it was nasty of them, but that sound like a butt hurt loser ringing them up when I'd know they would be trying to avoid me. Something similar to this has happens to me twice now after interviews. I simply cannot pretend that it doesn't annoy anymore. If this ever happens to me again, once I have figured out for myself (the hard way) that I don't have the job (or don't second round interview), I will contact them. And when I do contact them, they will probably think I'm a bit stupid that I haven't figured out by now that I didn't get the job. They will also probably think that if there's any chance of me still being hired by them that I am going about it the wrong way.

And that's where they'll be so very wrong. Because I will make it my personal hobby to keep ringing up and annoying the sh1t out of them. The more they'd do the run around with me, the more I'd play dumb and keep ringing sending letters and emails, getting onto their superiors, etc. I will use them as my punch bag even if it means they think I'm some sort of a weirdo. And you might say there's no point but whatever would happen, you can be bloody sure that they'd remember it for ever more.

What would you do. First of all, it's going to piss you off, you cannot pretend it doesn't. And there's no point in saying it's nothing personal. I know a guy who this happened to who had actually traveled further than I did, and stayed overnight in a hotel. He made the point to stand up to them and they're actually changing their policy now. In his case the company he had the interview with, tried to blame it on the recruitment company as a miscommunication. The recruitment company was then forced to call a spade a spade.

So yeah, unlike my father's advice, I would burn that bridge to the ground.

Instead of burning a bridge, how about you build one and get over it.

Frankly if I behaved like you, I wouldnt expect a call back either, you are only alienating yourself for any future callbacks if any other jobs presented themselves that suited your skill sets.

Akrasia · 28-07-2019 09:23PM

nthclare wrote: »

I think if I could I'd love to go for interviews and be a right rogue, if I get the impression that the interviewees are knobs just take them for what they are.

No doubt that you'll be getting the usual response of ohh you're taking the chance of someone who badly needs a job, I understand that.

But sure nothing wrong with being a messer and calling these numptys out on their lack of communication and interpersonal skills....

Dunnes stores is one I hear about, call center's is another one.

Oh hotels are the best they're really out to take on for a slave especially if it's a Job like a chamber maid or kitchen poter

Feisar · 28-07-2019 09:45PM

kikilarue2 wrote: »

That’s an absolutely horrendous attitude. By the same logic it’s your fault if you get robbed because you obviously marked yourself out as a victim.

mix blue and yellow and you get green. Now was it the blue or the yellow that made the green? What I am saying is that interactions are two way.

Feisar · 28-07-2019 09:55PM

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Wow, you've really been brainwashed, haven't you? You have the attitude of a serf who should be endlessly grateful for any work bestowed on you by your overlords. No wonder companies don't hesitate to treat people like sh1t when there's an endless supply of minions like you who'll lap it right up.

Everyone is owed basic respect. Everyone. Whether he got the job or not is irrelevant. He took the time to meet them and have an interview. He prepared for the interview, did his best and sat waiting to hear back for days on end. If they decided they didn't want/need what he was offering, they could have and should have spent two minutes drafting an email to let him know. It didn't even have to be a personal email. He'd have been happy with a form template if it let him know one way or the other so he wasn't waiting on an acceptance or rejection which was never going to come.

It's a totally unacceptable way to treat people and the more people who let them know it, the better. No need to get angry or play games - just state that you haven't heard back and are disappointed in the lack of courtesy. I wouldn't want to work for a company like that.

While I treat people with respect, that's just good manners, why is it owed?

Feisar · 28-07-2019 10:04PM

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

As long as I didn't do a 360 in my swivel chair or jump on a desk, I think I'm worthy of some basic human decency. That's just an you excuse to make to avoid standing up for yourself. It's always easier to blame yourself.

Now having said that, obviously I make mistakes in interviews and I reflect on that. No interview I do will be perfect. So the moment after an interview when I realise that I actually should/shouldn't have said X, then they've got an excuse to treat me like dirt? Is that it? And to think you're giving me advice. Ha.

All I was asking for was one of their bullsh1t automated emails that would read "we were very impressed by your CV, however there were a large number of applicants and unfortunately you were not successful this time. We will keep your CV on file and.........". Is that too much to ask for?

You DISGUST me.

Hahahaha, I speak the truth and it disgusts you?

Always Tired · 28-07-2019 10:10PM

What prize will you win for doing that? Do you think it will make you feel better (i doubt it would).

It is very annoying. I've been unemployed a while and the worst part is that this treatment only makes you less motivated to keep applying. But that is just the way this country is, employers are generally of the opinion they can treat people like piles of garbage, they care sweet eff all about the staff they DO hire, the ones they don't mean even less.

Getting a form rejection email doesn't really feel any better so why bother. I had one give me good feedback once and told me I got down to the last 2 but they went with the other applicant and I guess that should have felt encouraging but it just frustrated me even more as it was a job i knew I was really well suited to.

Bottom line is you won't feel good whether they contact you or not if you didnt get the job so just move on and keep applying.

Problem Of Motivation · 29-07-2019 09:44AM

Feisar wrote: »

Hahahaha, I speak the truth and it disgusts you?

You do not speak the truth you little troll.

B.A._Baracus · 29-07-2019 09:52AM

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Incorrect in this case.

But even if it wasn't, I would use whoever I could as my punch bag because those people will know who's really responsible. Thank about it.

No. You think about it.
Who do you think you are? You didn't get the job. Big deal. We've been there. Who hasnt here?

You have no right to ring up people, especially people who had no hand in you not getting the job and annoying them. Again, who do you think you are? Why don't you go in person and do it tho. Of course you won't tho. Easy to come off as annoying when you can hide behing a phone or keyboard.

Look I get that you are annoyed. It annoys me too. But you just move on.

Feisar · 29-07-2019 10:00AM

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

You do not speak the truth you little troll.

Best of luck to you.

bellylint · 29-07-2019 10:21AM

OP its your life and how you CHOOSE to waste it is up to you.
What is the absolute best outcome you get for yourself from this course of action? You eventually get tired/bored as your anger fizzles out and you stop the childish tirade. Why not skip to the part and save yourself pointless effort.
Write a review on glass door, and don't start wasting your life. It will be much more effective than anything you could hope to gain from an attempted comms barrage.
Plus after the first time you are a slight nuisance they will tell you you did not get the job and then legitimately if you prove to be a nuisance after that you are crossing a legal threshold of harassment.

kikilarue2 · 29-07-2019 10:39AM

Feisar wrote: »

kikilarue2 wrote: »

That’s an absolutely horrendous attitude. By the same logic it’s your fault if you get robbed because you obviously marked yourself out as a victim.

mix blue and yellow and you get green. Now was it the blue or the yellow that made the green? What I am saying is that interactions are two way.

To be honest I find your attitude in this scenario pretty disgusting.

If a bully chooses to pick on someone they perceive as weak, the responsibility for that lies entirely with the bully.

And everyone owes each other a basic level of decency and respect, because it’s the social contract that underpins civil society.

Honestly, it kind of sounds like you’re a bit of a bully yourself and you’re trying to justify that.

Would you burn the bridge after an interview?

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