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Would you burn the bridge after an interview?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    I can see why you didn't get the jobs and perhaps it's time you thought about that, rather than raising all these personal issues where you fail to comprehend basic interaction between people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭kikilarue2


    Feisar wrote: »
    Dude/Man you've opened a can of worms here...

    For some reason you didn't garner their respect. Now the whys of this is a big question and I'm not equipped to answer. However a place to start is why some people get bullied and others don't. The victim types blame the bully however they are not the reason. It's all about attitude and your persona.

    That’s an absolutely horrendous attitude. By the same logic it’s your fault if you get robbed because you obviously marked yourself out as a victim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭kikilarue2


    Watch YouTube videos on handling interviews.

    Either way No one owes you a job.

    He’s not owed a job, I’d say he is owed feedback. He spent time and money traveling to and participating in the interview, it’s both professional and courteous to let him know what happened with his application.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭daheff


    Your time might be better spent working on your issues.

    For some bizarre reason you feel the need to write an essay on the most mundane of issues that the majority of us write off as sh*t happens.

    This attitude is whats wrong with society these days. Its not acceptable to treat people like this.

    OP didnt get the jobs. ok. But for the company. to not even bother let him know he didn't is bad. Flip side for OP is that hes better off not working for a company that doesn't value its people or potential people enough & treat them like that.


    Op, I wouldnt burn bridges... Irelands too small and you never know where you might bump into them again in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I'm not bothered if I don't hear back after an interview.

    About 8 months ago I interviewed for a job at a bank. I thought it went well but after not hearing back for 2 weeks or so, I assumed I didn't get it, no biggie. I then got an email to tell me that I wasn't successful but the email contained feedback from the interviewers. The "feedback" was brutal. I am convinced that it was an internal memo that wasn't supposed to reach me. It absolutely shattered my confidence and it took me up until last week to pluck up the courage to apply for new jobs again.

    I got an email last week from an agency about interviewing for a role in the exact same bank. I just told her that I interviewed before, they didn't fancy me and I won't be entertaining them with my time again.

    I suppose that counts as burning your bridge.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭kikilarue2


    I'm not bothered if I don't hear back after an interview.

    About 8 months ago I interviewed for a job at a bank. I thought it went well but after not hearing back for 2 weeks or so, I assumed I didn't get it, no biggie. I then got an email to tell me that I wasn't successful but the email contained feedback from the interviewers. The "feedback" was brutal. I am convinced that it was an internal memo that wasn't supposed to reach me. It absolutely shattered my confidence and it took me up until last week to pluck up the courage to apply for new jobs again.

    I got an email last week from an agency about interviewing for a role in the exact same bank. I just told her that I interviewed before, they didn't fancy me and I won't be entertaining them with my time again.

    I suppose that counts as burning your bridge.

    Jesus, sorry that happened you. In between the brutality, did it give you anything useful you could work on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭The Tetrarch


    Nothing to be gained.
    Years ago a family member got a job and wanted to tell his current employer as he was leaving what he thought of them.
    I asked him was he going to stay in his new job until retirement. Answer was no.
    Was it possible his next employer after that would contact his previous employers (you list your previous jobs)? Answer was yes.
    Why make yourself unemployable for one minute of satisfaction?
    Who knows where your letter of complaint could end up?
    Interviewers: some have manners, others do not.
    You may have been lucky not getting the job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭kikilarue2


    I burnt a bridge last year and i'm not sure if I regret it or not.

    I was bullied really horribly by my manager even thought I was - by his own admission - doing my job well. I was having a really tough year family-wise but still managing to get all my work done. Rather than support me, he used my difficulties against me.

    The last straw came when my brother was in a car crash - a serious one. I took one day off (Monday) - and I took it as annual leave rather than sick leave or anything, to go down and make sure he was okay. That Friday, my boss was emailing me about stuff he said I needed to catch up on to "make up" for taking Monday off. None of it was at all urgent, and you don't have to make up hours for time taken off as annual leave.

    I called in sick the following Monday and Tuesday, and resigned on the Wednesday. If he couldn't have an ounce of compassion for the situation I was in, I didn't want to work for him.

    I emailed the CEO when I left detailing specific instances of bullying/harrassment and heard nothing back, so a few weeks later I posted it to GlassDoor and I heard from friends still at the company it caused huge ructions.

    Two other women had left the company because of him in the previous year and neither of them said anything about why. I just didn't want to f**ker to keep getting away with.

    My friends who are still there say that since then he's been much more careful, and doesn't behave like he used to.

    The negative impact on me is that I've gone for other jobs in the meantime where people who know us both were involved in hiring, and I'm pretty sure the way I handled it was factored in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    Jesus, sorry that happened you. In between the brutality, did it give you anything useful you could work on?

    Yes, just learn off the Wikipedia page of the company and regurgitate it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Why don't you spend that time and energy improving your interview technique.

    Motivation problem more than likely ;)

    OP, your post comes across as having an attitude problem. It serves no purpose what so ever. What good do you think will come of it.

    Bridge burning is dumb. It just shows the persons true character. Some industries are just so small and you may end up working with some of these people in the future, or worse, for them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,560 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Don’t burn your bridges however hard it was. You never know how or what circumstances the interview panel may pop up again. Believe me, I work in a small sector and have seen it several times.
    Hold your head up, work on any shortcomings and prove what they missed out on- it’s what I did, now in a managerial role and glad I didn’t get half those ****ty jobs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭lainey_d_123


    Some of these responses are a real insight into how most people seem to think and behave today.

    It's not remotely unreasonable to expect an answer after you've spent time and money travelling to attend an interview. It's basic human courtesy, which seems to be severely lacking in most people.

    It takes all of two minutes to put together a list of unsuccessful candidates and let them know they didn't get the job. That this company thinks it's alright to have hopeful people sitting waiting for an answer for days on end to save themselves two minutes says it all about their mentality and work culture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Not this guy again...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I've lost count the amount of times employers have told me "we'll be in touch either way just to let you know" - if it's said to me now I just go yeah yeah in my mind.

    That said op. You're being a bit of a jerk there. You'd be just annoying someone who had no say in you getting the job or letting you know you didn't.

    But I have a theory in life. And I think you confirm it. Lol. It's when people don't get their own way they feel justified to behaving like as*holes.
    For the record I ain't judging. How can I as everyone else does it.


  • Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Some of these responses are a real insight into how most people seem to think and behave today.

    It's not remotely unreasonable to expect an answer after you've spent time and money travelling to attend an interview. It's basic human courtesy, which seems to be severely lacking in most people.

    It takes all of two minutes to put together a list of unsuccessful candidates and let them know they didn't get the job. That this company thinks it's alright to have hopeful people sitting waiting for an answer for days on end to save themselves two minutes says it all about their mentality and work culture.
    I think that definitely applies if you attend for interview -- company is clearly interested in buying what you're selling (your labour), and they should be able to tell you yes or no -- ideally within a couple of days, so you can organise yourself.

    But I don't quite understand people who expect acknowledgements and answers after only sending in a CV. No reply is a reply. There might be 100s of applications for a few posts, and I'm not sure if it's always reasonable to get back to everyone.

    If I applied for a job via email, and got a reply a couple of days later saying, esentially, 'No thanks', I'd be quite annoyed by that. I'd be thinking 'I almost forgot I applied, you shouldn't have bothered telling me'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    An email response would be nice, but why should a HR manager be under any compunction to give you feed back. Given the increasingly litigious way things are going they'd probably be leaving themselves open to a discrimination case or some-such nonsense.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭nthclare


    I think if I could I'd love to go for interviews and be a right rogue, if I get the impression that the interviewees are knobs just take them for what they are.

    No doubt that you'll be getting the usual response of ohh you're taking the chance of someone who badly needs a job, I understand that.

    But sure nothing wrong with being a messer and calling these numptys out on their lack of communication and interpersonal skills....

    Dunnes stores is one I hear about, call center's is another one.

    Oh hotels are the best they're really out to take on for a slave especially if it's a Job like a chamber maid or kitchen poter :)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Captain Havoc


    I don't think burning your bridges is ever a good idea, you never know when you may come across that bridge again. Think of this as a dodged bullet, do you really want to work for a company like that? I think it's very wrong that employers don't email back applicants as perhaps someone was holding off on taking another job.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭sportsfan90


    I had an interview a few years ago. It was on a Friday afternoon and he told me the job was mine and that he'd confirm it and have contracts ready on Monday.

    Monday came and I heard nothing but didn't think much of it. The following Monday I sent a polite email looking for an update. When I got no reply, I sent another email the following week. When I heard nothing back I let it go and accepted a different job offer.

    About 8 months later I got a phone call. He told me his name but I had no idea who I was talking to, I presumed it was some recruiter who saw my LinkedIn profile. I let him yap on for a few minutes and I told him I was happy in my current job.

    I searched his name in my emails and realised who had called me. He was talking as if it was a day or two after the interview, not 8 months later. And not a shred of an apology for ignoring me previously after telling me I got the job. I since met a few people who worked for him and they rolled their eyes and weren't one bit surprised.

    It's a really bad trait in a company. Granted in my case he wasn't HR or in recruitment but he should have been a bit more professional than that. I've no problem not getting a job, but not getting an acknowledgement or even a copy & paste PFO email is bad form after I took a day off work to meet him.


  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes, just learn off the Wikipedia page of the company and regurgitate it.


    To be fair, When I interview people a very good question to ask is 'tell me what you know about the company.' You'll know very quickly if someone took the application seriously and has a good attention to detail. Because anybody can write, 'I've a good attention to detail.' and how is the interviewer to know?


    So, yes always know some good detail about the company, and that means looking at the website and other media info, 'I see you've recently launched a new do dah.'

    Some of these responses are a real insight into how most people seem to think and behave today.

    It's not remotely unreasonable to expect an answer...


    To be clear, I don't think anyone thinks it acceptable not to reply to interviewees. The problem most of us have (and answered in an AH way rather than if it was posted in the work forum) is to tell the OP not to allow the company live in his head rent free.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭lainey_d_123


    To be fair, When I interview people a very good question to ask is 'tell me what you know about the company.' You'll know very quickly if someone took the application seriously and has a good attention to detail. Because anybody can write, 'I've a good attention to detail.' and how is the interviewer to know?


    So, yes always know some good detail about the company, and that means looking at the website and other media info, 'I see you've recently launched a new do dah.'





    To be clear, I don't think anyone thinks it acceptable not to reply to interviewees. The problem most of us have (and answered in an AH way rather than if it was posted in the work forum) is to tell the OP not to allow the company live in his head rent free.

    Simply untrue. Plenty of people are saying it's not a big deal.

    It IS a big deal. If someone goes to the trouble of attending an interview, especially if travelling a long distance, possibly paying for a hotel, taking a day off work, etc. they deserve a response and are absolutely within their rights to call the company out for ghosting them. It's abhorrent behaviour and they're used to people just taking it. Maybe if more people actually held them accountable for the way they treat people, they'd take the two minutes to send an email to the next person they rejected.


  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Simply untrue. Plenty of people are saying it's not a big deal.


    There were 51 posts up to my post, which ones are saying it's not a big deal?


    There are some joke responses, but with the OP posting in After Hours it's not going to be treated as seriously as if posted in the work forums.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Why don't you spend that time and energy improving your interview technique.
    Oh as if I didn't think of that. One could be improving their interview techniques until the cows come home. You have to let off some steam every now and then.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Feisar wrote: »
    Dude/Man you've opened a can of worms here...

    For some reason you didn't garner their respect. Now the whys of this is a big question and I'm not equipped to answer. However a place to start is why some people get bullied and others don't. The victim types blame the bully however they are not the reason. It's all about attitude and your persona.
    As long as I didn't do a 360 in my swivel chair or jump on a desk, I think I'm worthy of some basic human decency. That's just an you excuse to make to avoid standing up for yourself. It's always easier to blame yourself.

    Now having said that, obviously I make mistakes in interviews and I reflect on that. No interview I do will be perfect. So the moment after an interview when I realise that I actually should/shouldn't have said X, then they've got an excuse to treat me like dirt? Is that it? And to think you're giving me advice. Ha.

    All I was asking for was one of their bullsh1t automated emails that would read "we were very impressed by your CV, however there were a large number of applicants and unfortunately you were not successful this time. We will keep your CV on file and.........". Is that too much to ask for?

    You DISGUST me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    What would be the point, it’s the way the world works, don’t take it personally. Get a dog to talk to.
    To make me feel better. I've had my revenge at time in the past, and believe me it can be worth it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    One could always torch the place. That would learn em
    Too easy. That what they'd want... to make me look crazy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Your time might be better spent working on your issues.

    For some bizarre reason you feel the need to write an essay on the most mundane of issues that the majority of us write off as sh*t happens.
    And let some dumb shrink act like they're smarter than me? Go bugger off back to the "what are you eat today?" thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    Profoundly idiotic and an complete waste of time.

    Another symptom of the culture of entitlement among young people today. Nobody owes you a job or career. You should assume that you do not have the job until you actually have an offer in hand. Most employers also state that expenses incurred by you attending the interview are yours and will not be reimbursed.

    You seem to not be able to read between the lines.

    And if you do take the action you talk about you will only come across as a complete fool and it will only serve to assure the employer that they made the right choice not to hire you. No business wants to hire passive aggressive vindictive game players such as yourself with a demonstrable lack of emotional and social wherewithal.

    Forget this rubbish and move on with your life op.

    Maybe you should consider visiting a counsellor of some sort to discuss your anger issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,896 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    I think that company dodged a bullet.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Either way No one owes you a job.
    I never said that sweetheart, although I know you wish I had. How about owing me a response?


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