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    #812
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    MrFresh wrote:
    Same reason if someone says they are blind I don't demand an eye test.

    I would if they were obviously able to see.


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    #813
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,165 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Same reason if someone says they are blind I don't demand an eye test.
    You mightn't.

    But it's not possible to be declared legally blind without some form of independent medical certification.

    You - quite rightly - can't self ID as blind.


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    #814
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I would if they were obviously able to see.


    how would you know? Throw a ball at them and see if they catch it? Why would you not just accept a person telling you they have an issue without proof?


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    #815
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    cdeb wrote: »
    You mightn't.

    But it's not possible to be declared legally blind without some form of independent medical certification.

    You - quite rightly - can't self ID as blind.


    That's true, but they don't have to carry around a certification to prove it to people.


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    #816
    Glass fused light
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Glass fused light


    cdeb wrote: »
    It's also important to note any changes in suicide rate as a result of any operation.
    I know that.
    Its also reported that it is more high risk to operate on the female body transing to a man
    cdeb wrote: »
    Some want to shame "normal" society into accepting the blame for this high suicide rate.   And to try shame someone into accepting responsibility for a suicide ....
    It in most articles I read.
    Its like a mantra.


    So if someone wants to wave that as an argument at least produce the data.


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    #817
    Glass fused light
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Glass fused light


    Double post


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    #818
    The Specialist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Topless-OK youth LGBTQ2S+ swim proposal delayed by Township of Langley
    The event, proposed by 32-year-old transgender activist Jessica Yaniv – formerly known as Jonathan Yaniv – was aimed at those age 12 and up, with no upper age limit, and would prohibit the youths’ parents and caretakers from attending
    https://www.vancourier.com/sports/genital-waxing-complainant-s-topless-ok-youth-lgbtq2s-swim-proposal-delayed-by-township-of-langley-1.23895812

    Canada's gone full retard, you never go full retard.

    When your leader is a “progressive” virtue signaller like Trudeau you are ****ed.


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    #819
    jaxxx
    Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    Let's introduce some controversy.

    Someone that "changes" gender to either man/woman. Let's keep it simple, say for example John goes under all the treatment and surgery, and now decides to be known as Jane. If for some reason, Jane was cloned.. .. .. Is the clone going being to be a clone of Jane or John?

    In short: you can perform as many mutilations to your body as you wish, but you can't change your DNA, regardless of what sort of human engineering you do to your body.


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    #820
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    jaxxx wrote: »
    Let's introduce some controversy.

    Someone that "changes" gender to either man/woman. Let's keep it simple, say for example John goes under all the treatment and surgery, and now decides to be known as Jane. If for some reason, Jane was cloned.. .. .. Is the clone going being to be a clone of Jane or John?

    In short: you can perform as many mutilations to your body as you wish, but you can't change your DNA, regardless of what sort of human engineering you do to your body.


    Nobody has suggested you can change your DNA.


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    #821
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    MrFresh wrote: »
    Why would you not just accept a person telling you they have an issue without proof?

    Because some people are absolutely full of crap.

    If I look at someone and every single cue, visual, auditory and so on tells me I'm dealing with a man, they're a man as far as I'm concerned. If I don't get the slightest hint of something else, I'm going to do the same and more than likely spot the difference between a woman who was born a woman and a man who may in the rarest, most unusual of cases get close to passing as a woman. Most never get anywhere close to that, no matter which way they're transitioning.

    But aside from all the feelings and rights and all the rest of the crap we're hearing about now, nature is what nature is. A woman is born as such. A man is born as such. I feel sorry for anyone who finds themselves in the position where they feel they should be something else and if they want to do something about that to soothe their own mind, alright then. But I don't, shouldn't have to and never will call a man a woman or vice versa when asked which gender someone is to my logical, critical thinking mind.

    That's nature and common sense, not transphobia.


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    #822
    jaxxx
    Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Nobody has suggested you can change your DNA.


    *swoosh*


    What was that? Oh right, that was the point as it flew right over your head. FFS.. .. ..

    Hint: answer the question!


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    #823
    Glass fused light
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Glass fused light


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Topless-OK youth LGBTQ2S+ swim proposal delayed by Township of Langley

    .


    To be fair to the township they have been dealing with her filings for a number of years now

    Eg the chicken fillets and ballgown video

    So once she fills in the paper work they have to manage it under the rules


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    #824
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,165 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    MrFresh wrote: »
    That's true, but they don't have to carry around a certification to prove it to people.
    Who's asking for trans people to carry around a certification to prove things to people?

    We're just saying that if you're male, you can't decide to be female, like how if you can see, you can't just decide to be blind. And either way, you have to comply with societal norms around what you actually are, not what you think you are.


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    #825
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    JayZeus wrote: »
    Because some people are absolutely full of crap.

    If I look at someone and every single cue, visual, auditory and so on tells me I'm dealing with a man, they're a man as far as I'm concerned. If I don't get the slightest hint of something else, I'm going to do the same and more than likely spot the difference between a woman who was born a woman and a man who may in the rarest, most unusual of cases get close to passing as a woman. Most never get anywhere close to that, no matter which way they're transitioning.

    But aside from all the feelings and rights and all the rest of the crap we're hearing about now, nature is what nature is. A woman is born as such. A man is born as such. I feel sorry for anyone who finds themselves in the position where they feel they should be something else and if they want to do something about that to soothe their own mind, alright then. But I don't, shouldn't have to and never will call a man a woman or vice versa when asked which gender someone is to my logical, critical thinking mind.

    That's nature and common sense, not transphobia.


    Plenty of trans people, pre op and post op, would pass for their chosen gender easily. And like it or not you would have no issue calling them by that pronoun because you wouldn't know better. So why not just go with the flow on the others?


    Also, that is transphobia. The "nature" argument is such nonsense. People do things every day that is not natural.


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    #826
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,165 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Also, that is transphobia.
    Bollox.

    Jonathan Yaniv is a man.

    That is not transphobia. That is simple fact. And trying to shout it down as hate speech is despicable.


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    #827
    jaxxx
    Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Plenty of trans people, pre op and post op, would pass for their chosen gender easily. And like it or not you would have no issue calling them by that pronoun because you wouldn't know better. So why not just go with the flow on the others?


    Also, that is transphobia. The "nature" argument is such nonsense. People do things every day that is not natural.
    Ow.... owww.... That... that actually hurts. Jesus..........



    Nature is nonsense is it? Tell me this, are you a human? Yes? Well what if you wake up tomorrow wanting to be a dolphin? Does that make you a dolphin? No? Why? Oh right, BECAUSE OF YOUR DNA! F@~!!

    NATURE!!!!!!!!!!!


    I'm gonna take my leave before I say something I regret.. .. .. .. ..



    Picard-no-facepalm.jpg


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    #828
    Glass fused light
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Glass fused light


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Nobody has suggested you can change your DNA.
    Do some more research on that
    The litigent beleives she has female dna

    And there are a lot of people like to support that idea too


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    #829
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,120 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Glass fused light wrote: »
    To be fair

    To be fair, why didn't they just tell her straight out, put your proposal up beside the flag pole.

    Can I pedo in public as I think I'm a woman? There is no thinking about the proposal. Even submitting the application should be enough to get you carted away.


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    #830
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    TomSweeney wrote: »

    The litigation cases in the future will be interesting.

    Had that conversation this week with friends. Wait for the now kids taking cases against their parents, mefica and the state for child abuse.


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    #831
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,165 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Eliezer Harsh Cedar wrote: »
    Wait for the now kids taking cases against [...] the state for child abuse.
    And of course guess who'll be paying for that here? :rolleyes:


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    #832
    Glass fused light
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Glass fused light


    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-transgender-teen-suicide/trans-teens-much-more-likely-to-attempt-suicide-idUSKCN1LS39K

    How about a study without the bias of the reseacher being trans and litigating on trans discrimination?


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    #833
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Glass fused light wrote: »
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-transgender-teen-suicide/trans-teens-much-more-likely-to-attempt-suicide-idUSKCN1LS39K

    How about a study without the bias of the reseacher being trans and litigating on trans discrimination?


    Sure.


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5905855/


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    #834
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    MrFresh wrote:
    how would you know? Throw a ball at them and see if they catch it? Why would you not just accept a person telling you they have an issue without proof?

    Not in all circumstances, no.


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    #835
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Not in all circumstances, no.


    Yeah, but why not?


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    #836
    Glass fused light
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Glass fused light


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    To be fair, why didn't they just tell her straight out, put your proposal up beside the flag pole.

    ..
    Because they have a budget to manage and she has a history of OCD/stalker like behaviour and loves to litigate. So its easier to let the policy manage her interactions


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    #837
    The Specialist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Yeah, but why not?

    If people were 100% honest 100% of the time then no problem. Humans are not 100% honest and some of them are devious, you’d want to be fairly naive to believe anything without questioning it to some extent or without concrete proof.


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    #838
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    MrFresh wrote:
    Yeah, but why not?

    Why don't I accept everything everyone says at face value? What a ridiculous question.


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    #839
    Glass fused light
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Glass fused light


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Sure.


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5905855/
    Getting closer now so the suicide rate (the actual rate of deaths)


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    #840
    coffee_cake
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    How does one "act like a woman"

    We need to be getting rid of these gender roles and stereotypes, not reinforcing them


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    #841
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    bluewolf wrote:
    We need to be getting rid of these gender roles and stereotypes, not reinforcing them

    Men and women are different. It's ok to admit that.


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