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Apiarist · 24-07-2019 11:54AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Hold up I've a daughter not sure about Wibbs but if any of these guys come anywhere near her safe spaces I'll shove that rainbow flag so far up their hole they'll be identifing as a chicken skewer.

Hopefully you will not. If you do, I hope you will get locked up for a long time. But it is unlike you ever will because statistically most of the abuse on children is done by the family member and a friend of the family. And the child is usually too ashamed to say anything to a parent if a nice uncle or a babysitter does something strange. While you are busy preoccupying yourself with the mythical danger transwomen pose to your daughter (if you have one!).

Deebles McBeebles · 24-07-2019 11:56AM

Can we all take a minute to appreciate the quality of the thread title. Fair play, OP.

Amalgam · 24-07-2019 12:09PM

Sittingpretty wrote: »

It’s so horrible to see that some men are still ready, willing and able to ride roughshod over the rights of biological women to accommodate the needs of other men who want to be women.

At least one prisoner in the UK (convicted rapist) is thought to be doing it just to wind up the authorities and use up time and resources, a big f__k y__, to the state.

MrFresh · 24-07-2019 12:10PM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Can we all take a minute to appreciate the quality of the thread title. Fair play, OP.

I think it's a Ricky Gervais tweet.

The Specialist · 24-07-2019 12:16PM

victor8600 wrote: »

Hopefully you will not. If you do, I hope you will get locked up for a long time. But it is unlike you ever will because statistically most of the abuse on children is done by the family member and a friend of the family. And the child is usually too ashamed to say anything to a parent if a nice uncle or a babysitter does something strange. While you are busy preoccupying yourself with the mythical danger transwomen pose to your daughter (if you have one!).

I would hope that if that happened, the courts would view them as a parent protecting their child - as any parent would do if a pervert tried interfering with them in a space they should not be in.

Apiarist · 24-07-2019 12:44PM

The Specialist wrote: »

I would hope that if that happened, the courts would view them as a parent protecting their child -....

Explain this to me. I do not see how the threat of violence can be justified, but you know better probably.

Let's consider a situation.A transwoman goes to a shower after a gym workout, a 17-year old girl sees her, gets mildly shocked by the view and tell her father about it. The father then gets a rainbow flag (I presume he carries it with him at all times) and barges into women's changing room to assault the transwoman. I do hope in this case the courts either sentence him to a long time in jail, or confine him in an asylum for criminally insane.

The Specialist · 24-07-2019 12:48PM

victor8600 wrote: »

Explain this to me. I do not see how the threat of violence can be justified, but you know better probably.

Let's consider a situation.A transwoman goes to a shower after a gym workout, a 17-year old girl sees her, gets mildly shocked by the view and tell her father about it. The father then gets a rainbow flag (I presume he carries it with him at all times) and barges into women's changing room to assault the transwoman. I do hope in this case the courts either sentence him to a long time in jail, or confine him in an asylum for criminally insane.

You are jumping to the assumption that the poster would do that simply from the presence of them in the changing room (still something that should not be allowed) - we are talking about the likes of JY here who would very likely (given his history and obsession with periods etc) try to interfere with the child or make them extremely uncomfortable. I'd be right there beside that poster delivering said rainbow flag to ass in that case, any day.

MrFresh · 24-07-2019 12:51PM

The Specialist wrote: »

A very small minority of men support these types - the majority of us are completely opposed to any use of female spaces by them. I don't want my daughter sharing any space with perverts like JY and would fight tooth and nail against even the whisper of such an allowance.

Do you feel the same about female to male trans people in mens changing rooms?

24-07-2019 12:53PM

victor8600 wrote: »

Explain this to me. I do not see how the threat of violence can be justified, but you know better probably.

Let's consider a situation.A transwoman goes to a shower after a gym workout, a 17-year old girl sees her, gets mildly shocked by the view and tell her father about it. The father then gets a rainbow flag (I presume he carries it with him at all times) and barges into women's changing room to assault the transwoman. I do hope in this case the courts either sentence him to a long time in jail, or confine him in an asylum for criminally insane.

I see that you decide to take things literally when it suits. I doubt very much that the poster was actually suggesting he would skewer the transwoman. I very much think he would be very vocal and confront the transwoman for exposing their male genitalia to his child in a place where women are in various states of undress.

It's funny that some things are literal (i.e I will shove a rainbow flag up their arse) and yet the definition of a man can be so nuanced. It's almost like you pick and choose.

Do you get worried when people say they'd murder a cup of tea? Do you think they want to collect your urine when they take the piss or will not stop pummelling someone until they acutally beat the **** out of people?

24-07-2019 12:53PM

MrFresh wrote: »

Do you feel the same about female to male trans people in mens changing rooms?

I do

The Specialist · 24-07-2019 12:54PM

MrFresh wrote: »

Do you feel the same about female to male trans people in mens changing rooms?

I feel the same about all of it - don't buy in to it, will never support it and will never acknowledge it as legitimate. If you want an honest opinion, I think the removal of gender dysphoria from the DSM is one of the greatest mistakes ever made.

Apiarist · 24-07-2019 01:01PM

The Specialist wrote: »

You are jumping to the assumption that the poster would do that simply from the presence of them in the changing room ...

It's nice to be able to read other people thoughts, isn't it? :pac:

The exact words were " any of these guys come anywhere near her safe spaces I'll shove....".

Not "a pervert assaults my daughter", which would be understandable. No, what the poster says is "any of these guys comes near". How would the poster identify "these guys"? Does the poster accompanies his daughter to women's safe spaces?

One eyed Jack · 24-07-2019 01:02PM

The Specialist wrote: »

I feel the same about all of it - don't buy in to it, will never support it and will never acknowledge it as legitimate. If you want an honest opinion, I think the removal of gender dysphoria from the DSM is one of the greatest mistakes ever made.

Psst...

The diagnostic label gender identity disorder (GID) was used by the DSM until its reclassification as gender dysphoria in 2013, with the release of the DSM-5. The diagnosis was reclassified to better align it with medical understanding of the condition and to remove the stigma associated with the term disorder.

Awkward :pac:

gmisk · 24-07-2019 01:04PM

The Specialist wrote: »

I feel the same about all of it - don't buy in to it, will never support it and will never acknowledge it as legitimate. If you want an honest opinion, I think the removal of gender dysphoria from the DSM is one of the greatest mistakes ever made.

What about if someone has had gender reassignment surgery etc?
i.e. Male to Female person in womans changing rooms and vice versa? Would that be acceptable to you or not?

MrFresh · 24-07-2019 01:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I do

The Specialist wrote: »

I feel the same about all of it - don't buy in to it, will never support it and will never acknowledge it as legitimate. If you want an honest opinion, I think the removal of gender dysphoria from the DSM is one of the greatest mistakes ever made.

Where would you have them go?

The Specialist · 24-07-2019 01:06PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Psst...

The diagnostic label gender identity disorder (GID) was used by the DSM until its reclassification as gender dysphoria in 2013, with the release of the DSM-5. The diagnosis was reclassified to better align it with medical understanding of the condition and to remove the stigma associated with the term disorder.

Awkward :pac:

That awkward moment when you try to be clever but just end up being a pedant:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/world-health-organization-removes-gender-dysphoria-from-list-of-mental-illnesses/

The World Health Organization (WHO) will remove "gender identity disorder" from its global manual of diagnoses — a major win for transgender rights. The change was announced last summer, but a resolution to amend the health guidelines was officially approved Saturday.

The United Nations' health agency released a revised version of the International Classification of Diseases (ICD) that reclassifies "gender identity disorder" as "gender incongruence," which is now featured under the sexual health chapter rather than the mental disorders chapter.

One eyed Jack · 24-07-2019 01:08PM

The Specialist wrote: »

That awkward moment when you try to be clever but just end up being a pedant:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/world-health-organization-removes-gender-dysphoria-from-list-of-mental-illnesses/

I wasn’t trying to be clever at all, I was messing with you, but since you’re trying to be an arse about it, I’ll simply point out to you that the ICD and the DSM are not the same thing.

Apiarist · 24-07-2019 01:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

...I doubt very much that the poster was actually suggesting he would skewer the transwoman. ....

That is my hope, but advocating violence against a minority, even in a joke form, is a bad idea.

Deleted User wrote: »

Do you get worried when people say they'd murder a cup of tea?

Cup of tea is not a human. Interesting that you have brought this up though. Thinking about murders a lot?

Hector Savage · 24-07-2019 01:15PM

klaaaz wrote: »

So says the poster quoting the dark religion of Satan as a science denier of medical facts. We went through this before and yet you still disagree with 2,617 top medical scientists on this issue that indeed a person can change sex and have done so since the 1950's https://not-binary.org/statement/

are you FECKING SERIOUS????

24-07-2019 01:24PM

victor8600 wrote: »

That is my hope, but advocating violence against a minority, even in a joke form, is a bad idea.

Cup of tea is not a human. Interesting that you have brought this up though. Thinking about murders a lot?

If a person willingly exposed their penis to my daughter, in a place where penises aren't expected to be attached to the anatomy of a person when they are naked (jesus, the hoops I have to go through in order not to be banned again), then I think I would err on the side of caution and forcibly eject the owner of said penis.

Walking around in women only spaces with an exposed penis isn't ok in my opinion.

It's interesting that I brought up "I'd murder a cup of tea" when I was talking about certain expressions not being literal? If you think it's interesting then that's all on you buddy. I don't think it was particularly interesting.

I would say I think about murders just about the normal amount (although the more posts of yours I read, that amount may rise)

Hector Savage · 24-07-2019 01:27PM

peddlelies wrote: »

Had to look

I loved the bit where she said "I have my own gynecologist"

!!

How can the gynecologist keep a straight face ???

gmisk · 24-07-2019 01:29PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If a person willingly exposed their penis to my daughter, in a place where penises aren't expected to be attached to the anatomy of a person when they are naked (jesus, the hoops I have to go through in order not to be banned again), then I think I would err on the side of caution and forcibly eject the owner of said penis.

Walking around in women only spaces with an exposed penis isn't ok in my opinion.

I entirely agree. If the same thing happened to my Niece I would do the same thing btw.

Genuine question, what about people who have had surgery though to transition from male to female or vice versa?

24-07-2019 01:31PM

gmisk wrote: »

I entirely agree. If the same thing happened to my Niece I would do the same thing btw.

Genuine question, what about people who have had surgery though to transition from male to female or vice versa?

I "think", I'm ok with that.

*edit* yeah, I'd be ok with that.

Eric Cartman · 24-07-2019 01:34PM

gmisk wrote: »

I entirely agree. If the same thing happened to my Niece I would do the same thing btw.

Genuine question, what about people who have had surgery though to transition from male to female or vice versa?

the whole thing is about not exposing women to penises and men to vaginas against their will, full surgery transitions in theory im ok with, however I still wouldn't welcome m2f transitioners in competing in womens sports.

gmisk · 24-07-2019 01:37PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I "think", I'm ok with that.

Thank you for giving me a genuine answer.

I personally have no issues at all in these kind of circumstances.

This Jessica person is really doing a disservice to genuine trans people (who have a tough enough time already).
Clearly this person is just after the attention and notoriety, best ignored and hopefully the cases will collapse as they are an utter nonsense IMO. The only people I feel any sympathy for at all are the business owners who are being dragged through court and their names dragged in the mud.

drunkmonkey · 24-07-2019 01:40PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

So basically your argument is that all trans women are sexual assaulters.

Legally you don't need to touch someone to assault them. Yes all trans are assaulters if there's invading spaces not meant for their biological make up if it scares people like in girls changing rooms. That's the law of the land.

It would be a lol judge that didn't think there was justification in use of a flag pole by a dad who's daughter was assaulted by a man, any man including one holding a gender identity cert and a female passport.

gmisk · 24-07-2019 01:46PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

the whole thing is about not exposing women to penises and men to vaginas against their will, full surgery transitions in theory im ok with, however I still wouldn't welcome m2f transitioners in competing in womens sports.

I agree with you, I think most sane people would.

I am a gay man myself and to be honest I would consider myself fairly ill informed when it comes to transgender issues, but I did attend a talk with Lydia Foy at one stage which I found genuinely moving as well as eye opening, I think she is much more typical of a transgender person and the actual struggles people like that face.

I can also highly recommend an episode of the "criminal" podcast called P.D.I.D - it highlights a pretty shocking case about an actual transgender woman who was locked up in a mens cellblock (despite transitioning in the 90s and having female on her birth cert and license since 1993)

https://radiopublic.com/criminal/ep/s1!a1bfd

MrFresh · 24-07-2019 01:56PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I "think", I'm ok with that.

*edit* yeah, I'd be ok with that.

What of they still looked like the sex they were born?

Apiarist · 24-07-2019 02:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I would say I think about murders just about the normal amount (although the more posts of yours I read, that amount may rise)

Is that a threat? In any case, my position is known (to clarify -- transwomen are women regardless of genitalia, perverts are perverts regardless of their gender), I have nothing else to add here.

24-07-2019 02:09PM

victor8600 wrote:

Is that a threat? In any case, my position is known (to clarify -- transwomen are women regardless of genitalia, perverts are perverts regardless of their gender), I have nothing else to add here.

A threat to think more often about murder? No.

Good. We will miss you.

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